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  1. #221
    Quote Originally Posted by Vankrys View Post
    to be fair, at the time of brexit poll, the best and brightest economists and financial analysts of the world were incapable of predicting the impact of Brexit on UK and EU economy, probably still can't today, especially without knowing what kind of brexit and what trade deals will the UK negotiate.

    So how could you expect the average population, even intelligent as they may be, to know what's better for them.

    The people of UK voted romantically. The ideology of the UK independent, the memory of a long gone british empire, the dream from greatness, make UK great again... that's what the people voted for, without understanding the consequences.
    No, most financial analysts expected that the UK would suffer if they voted to leave and thats whats starting to happen now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dadwen View Post
    Personally I was thinking Elliot Carver in Tomorrow Never Dies but Blofeld works too....
    That reminds me of all the " Fake News " things we have going on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aggrophobic View Post
    No, most financial analysts expected that the UK would suffer if they voted to leave and thats whats starting to happen now.
    yeah in the short term, at least during the incertitude. They called it the limbo i think. But medium and long term, would UK recover and thrive, or fall behind and wither, i think no one knew for certain.

    I still think the average UK voters did not really have economics analysis in mind, but the idea of independence, sovereignty, to control border, and make own laws, to craft own trade deal.

    In fact, i think the UK voters (the leavers i mean) trusted the political class, especially the UKIP.
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    Yeah, pretty much whatever Devil Soros says, you want to do the exact opposite. Because what he wants is what will profit him the most and nothing else. Human lives and livability be damned.

    So, with that in mind, I'd say Britain leaving the EU was probably the right idea!

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    I simply can't understand why people are so hell bent on handing over their sovereign nation to a bunch of corporate socialists with no care for their best interests! I'll never understand that lemming thought processes!

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    "reverse Brexit..."

    What was the point of even having a vote to begin with lol...

    It's like painting the fence blue when people specifically asked for it to be red... and then someone comes and takes away the fence.

    Why even bother with a democracy, when you can settle on a dictatorship. If we are not good enough to cast a vote, why have the people make the vote at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zephyr Storm View Post
    Yeah, pretty much whatever Devil Soros says, you want to do the exact opposite. Because what he wants is what will profit him the most and nothing else. Human lives and livability be damned.

    So, with that in mind, I'd say Britain leaving the EU was probably the right idea!
    it's happening anyway, the no return point has been passed. article 50 has been triggered, the clock has started, there is no turning back. In maximum 2 years, the UK's out, for better or worse.

    Only way to extend the delay and give 1 more year of negociation is if all 27 members of the EU agree to it, that's never happening. tic toc, clock is ticking, get to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helden View Post
    If we ignore the results of this referendum, then the entire referendum process becomes a fraud, and we lose another peice of our democracy because some cry babies didn't like how they lost a vote.
    Referenda are not binding.

    The first Scottish devolution referendum also had a 52%/48% split, and was not enacted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mormolyce View Post
    Referenda are not binding.

    The first Scottish devolution referendum also had a 52%/48% split, and was not enacted.
    in my opinion, on such important decision and gigantic change in the geopolitico economical situation of UK, a 60% threshold should have been required.

    But it was not the case, what's done is done, now the UK must leave the EU.

  10. #230
    Quote Originally Posted by Orby View Post
    "reverse Brexit..."

    What was the point of even having a vote to begin with lol...

    It's like painting the fence blue when people specifically asked for it to be red... and then someone comes and takes away the fence.

    Why even bother with a democracy, when you can settle on idiocracy
    It's more like asking 100 people what to paint their fence.

    21 aren't allowed to vote.
    8 are allowed to vote but don't register.
    20 don't vote.
    27 vote red.
    25 vote blue.

    Not exactly a resounding mandate for a red fence, is it?

    Maybe you should sit down and think about whether you should be painting the fence at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vankrys View Post
    in my opinion, on such important decision and gigantic change in the geopolitico economical situation of UK, a 60% threshold should have been required.

    But it was not the case, what's done is done, now the UK must leave the EU.
    It "must" do nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    Germany's mentality didn't actually change.
    Come on. Germans before WWII were every bit as imperialist as the UK. In fact, the reason why WWI happened was because Germany, Austria-Hungary and Italy were "jealous" of the international influence of the more successful colonialist powers such as the UK and France. Now, while WWI was obviously a pretty big war, it wasn't one where civilian slaughter became a strategic tool, so WWI didn't really change the overall desires of Germans, because the average German didn't really feel the war on their skin. The irrational scope of the reparation demands from the winning side were only salt in the wounded German pride. So when we had the nazis in WWII do what they did - this was again just the mentality of the imperialist Germans trying to achieve their goals. You may correct me if you think this isn't true, but I do believe the vast majority of the German populace at the time approved of Hitler. Again, the mentality of the people at work.

    So what changed? Germany was destroyed and Germans thus learned they shouldn't really have imperialist goals. The opinions about everything related to these goals changed as well. I mean, you can't tell me the mentality of the Germans didn't change if they went from being genocidal [insert whatever you want]-phobes to pacifist pussies in the matter of years. Or months, or even weeks. It's even bigger than that. The scope of the general destruction during WWII convinced pretty much everyone to avert their mentality from imperialist, hypernationalistic tendencies.

    My sole point was that these sorts of actions are the only ones that can change mentalities of entire nations. Only hard consequences can do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mormolyce View Post
    It "must" do nothing.
    what do you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vankrys View Post
    in my opinion, on such important decision and gigantic change in the geopolitico economical situation of UK, a 60% threshold should have been required.
    This is a good point. I don't see why referenda work with a 1/2 majority, while big decisions in parliaments generally only work with a 2/3 majority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wikiy View Post
    This is a good point. I don't see why referenda work with a 1/2 majority, while big decisions in parliaments generally only work with a 2/3 majority.
    silly thing about this is that the brexit referendum was a non biding referendum, sure may not be that smart but if the British government wants they can throw the entire thing in the garbage ban.

  15. #235
    Quote Originally Posted by Vankrys View Post
    yeah in the short term, at least during the incertitude. They called it the limbo i think. But medium and long term, would UK recover and thrive, or fall behind and wither, i think no one knew for certain.

    I still think the average UK voters did not really have economics analysis in mind, but the idea of independence, sovereignty, to control border, and make own laws, to craft own trade deal.

    In fact, i think the UK voters (the leavers i mean) trusted the political class, especially the UKIP.
    Well, a reasonably intelligent person should have seen seen through their bullshit.
    They were ticked, simple as that.

  16. #236
    Quote Originally Posted by Vankrys View Post
    what do you mean?
    I believe his intention was to imply that there is "nothing that they must do" but what he said came out as "nothing is what they must do". Which is quite a different meaning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    Citation needed.

    Also, collegiate education does not exist for the purpose of producing 'job ready' skillsets. It's designed to produce educated and mindful citizens and cultivate the ability to critically think; something the humanities actually do significantly better than business degrees, oddly enough.
    And something our present government is actively trying to suppress. Especially the Central European University, which happens to be our highest ranked university by far. But Soros is "our" enemy du jour, and obedient little zombies eat up government propaganda about how education is bad for you, then vomit it here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FS- View Post
    What are you talking about? Hitler fought against this kind of scum. The corrupt millionaire (((kind))) that rules us over these days through banks, fake politicians and media. Brexit is a step towards sovereignty (still many to go).

    Soros, like many "powerful" jews, want world communism (except for Israel ofc) because it benefits them.

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  18. #238
    Quote Originally Posted by Tennisace View Post
    This is really sad. So many innocent people will suffer if this happens. It's a shame that the uneducated ones will ruin it for the rest.
    Agree. If they 'reverse' Brexit it will be awful.

    Quote Originally Posted by derpkitteh View Post
    fuck soros, don't trust people like him.

    pushing this weird agenda like he does. he can keep his damn mouth shut.
    Well globalist like him want to destabilize Europe (which is already half done) so he can get even more money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thage View Post
    Okay so, reading through the thread:

    Lots of triple-parentheses going on. It's always nice when the fashies out themselves.

    Apparently higher education should only serve an economic purpose, and nobody should ever pursue a degree in a field of interest out of passion or academic curiosity. This is doubly true when it involves things that get Redpillers' panties in a twist, apparently.

    Soros is apparently some inhumanly evil baby-eating monster because the guy makes money off of countries doing stupid shit that decimates their currency which, a'ight, whatever. I don't hear any of the usual suspects stringing Soros up for this speaking out against the investors and bankers who did the same thing and left the US up shit creek with a bunch of nutjobs in Congress holding the paddle (who in turn demanded the other passengers use their hands to row because it would be a handout to use the paddles).

    So basically, it's your usual GenOT thread. Am I about up to speed on this so far?
    Absolutely, though you could have written this summary just from the title. Especially the triple-parentheses. I think the very name became the latest code word for, you know, them.

  20. #240
    Quote Originally Posted by Mormolyce View Post
    It's more like asking 100 people what to paint their fence.

    21 aren't allowed to vote.
    8 are allowed to vote but don't register.
    20 don't vote.
    27 vote red.
    25 vote blue.

    Not exactly a resounding mandate for a red fence, is it?

    Maybe you should sit down and think about whether you should be painting the fence at all.
    No! This is actually great example for democracy! 27 is majority, so they win. Simple as that. If you don't like it maybe start petition to abolish democracy in your country? (that is if it is democratic country)
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