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  1. #81
    Other than the raid and the scenario, the patch was basically devoid of content minus endless grind to upgrade dozens of legendaries.

    Perhaps this "content drought" is the work of the void lords? Or the endless non-tent grind is the work of the infinite dragonflight? Either way, next expac: #confirmed

  2. #82
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyTheCherriesLover View Post
    Blizzard apologists arguing that doing exactly the same bosses on a higher difficulty which consist of higher hp and damage and perhaps an additional mechanic is now extra content
    Quite the opposite really. I would rather call those who pretend LFR or even normal is good content the "blizzard apologists", you don't make more good content by taking parts away from pre-existing good content and that's all the lower difficulties are, cut down, undertuned versions of the actual raid. Blizzard created this "problem" by letting literally everyone pretend they are done with raiding as soon as LFR is open. I would not oppose to going back to the normal (current heroic) and heroic (current mythic) mode days, 4 difficulties of which at least 2 are completely trivial hardly serves any purpose.
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  3. #83
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    I want to add this: i think in WoW it's about setting goal, and there is nothing wrong to quit when you reach them if you don't find anything else worth your time.
    Yeah, in theory you have so much to do in WoW the 99% of us cuold not be able to complete it. But this is just theory.
    In realy, everyone of us set a reasonable goal, maybe more then one, and after you think about the next. Sometimes there is no next, and you quit. This mean that WoW is a shit game and Blizzard are out of touch? I think no.
    The game itself is faster now. You level fast, you equip fast and if you are a bit skilled you can even clear raid normal and hc fast. But there are many more goal you can aspire in WoW, if you want of course.
    That said, i understand that there are some people who are skilled and can clear HC raid fast, BUT, they can't (for various reason) go on mythic. Fair enough. But how you can blame the game for something not his fault? We all know that HC raid is not that hard for some of us, but the solution are: step up on mythic; find something else to do. You can't have 3 HC raid release one after another for your amusement and even that cuold be not enough, becasue you can max take 3 days to clear them.

    In conclusion. modern WoW model does not punish in any way who want to unsub becasue is bored, so just DO IT XD

  4. #84
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    Even if you take into account Mythic progression, world content is still lackluster and means doing the same old launch content over and over again. There is nothing to do besides raiding. 7.2 flopped and they must get every bit of hate possible for it.

    (the raid itself is well done)

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    Quote Originally Posted by elaina View Post
    Other than the raid and the scenario, the patch was basically devoid of content minus endless grind to upgrade dozens of legendaries.
    +1, very true. Also, don´t forget that ToS was the title of the 7.2 patch, yet they hyped it up as the major feature of 7.2.5. Double advertising lol. All those people who resubbed in 7.2 lol

  5. #85
    I'll take "Questions With Obvious Answers for $200", Alex.

    "Why can't the raid content only be available for Mythic raiders?"
    "There is a pervasive myth that making content hard will induce players to rise to the occasion. We find the opposite. " -- Ghostcrawler
    "The bit about hardcore players not always caring about the long term interests of the game is spot on." -- Ghostcrawler
    "Do you want a game with no casuals so about 500 players?"

  6. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by CPUzer0 View Post
    Quite the opposite really. I would rather call those who pretend LFR or even normal is good content the "blizzard apologists", you don't make more good content by taking parts away from pre-existing good content and that's all the lower difficulties are, cut down, undertuned versions of the actual raid. Blizzard created this "problem" by letting literally everyone pretend they are done with raiding as soon as LFR is open. I would not oppose to going back to the normal (current heroic) and heroic (current mythic) mode days, 4 difficulties of which at least 2 are completely trivial hardly serves any purpose.
    Funny thing is - you outgear everything so fast in Legion leading to heroic is like flex SoO difficulty in MoP. Why normal even exists? Clearly for mindless titanforge and ap farm, which is cancer for raiding.

  7. #87
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    Quote Originally Posted by glowpipe View Post
    This aint a mythic only game. Its different difficulties for a reason. If you cleared it on hc and you are a hc only raider. There is nothing more to do for you.
    There are different difficulties for you to beat, wow is a mmorpg the key is these kind of game is "character progression". The reason why mythic raiders are able to beat mythic bosses is because they know how to play their spec and grow as a group, an experience you will probably never have with that mindet.

    You saying I beat normal & heroic i've completed the game is the same as saying I finished elementary & highschool therefore I completed school. Even though school really starts when you go to university. (inb4 "Shittiest example of the day.")

    Don't get me wrong I know some players can't commit "so much time" to the game but all the people I know with that problem are fully aware that clearing heroic doesn't mean that they cleared the content.

  8. #88
    Quote Originally Posted by Grobovshik View Post
    Funny thing is - you outgear everything so fast in Legion leading to heroic is like flex SoO difficulty in MoP. Why normal even exists?
    to feel superior to people who only do lfr.

  9. #89
    Quote Originally Posted by Grobovshik View Post
    Why normal even exists?
    In wowprogress, only half the guilds they track with any raid progression in tier 19 have downed H Skorpyron.

    So the answer to your question is "to cater to at least half the population that raids beyond LFR".
    "There is a pervasive myth that making content hard will induce players to rise to the occasion. We find the opposite. " -- Ghostcrawler
    "The bit about hardcore players not always caring about the long term interests of the game is spot on." -- Ghostcrawler
    "Do you want a game with no casuals so about 500 players?"

  10. #90
    Quote Originally Posted by Potentio View Post
    +1, very true. Also, don´t forget that ToS was the title of the 7.2 patch, yet they hyped it up as the major feature of 7.2.5. Double advertising lol. All those people who resubbed in 7.2 lol
    The .5 patch meta has doomed us toward having half as much content per patch in double as many patches!

  11. #91
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    Quote Originally Posted by Osmeric View Post
    In wowprogress, only half the guilds they track with any raid progression in tier 19 have downed H Skorpyron.

    So the answer to your question is "to cater to at least half the population that raids beyond LFR".
    Or going beyond that to the "Mythic = only real content" crowd: 80% of tracked guilds haven't even killed Skorpyron Mythic.

    The different levels of difficulty serve different groups (chicken or the egg though), and rightly so. It's a win-win for all groups: it gives everyone access to the created content and it gives those who want to have hard, rewarding content the option to run it. If it diminishes their experience that others see the same overall content at a lower difficulty, that's more a PEBKAC than a design issue.

  12. #92
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myz View Post
    What? That makes no fucking sense and is some elitist bullshit of the highest level.

    "If you're not playing Champions League you might as well retire, it's the same as watching football on TV. You're a fake athlete, sad".

    The one thing about WoW that never ceases to amaze me is how nolifers living in mom & dad their basement, living off unemployment benefits, fast food and soft drinks, have developed such an elite attitude ingame because they play 12 h per day, 7 days per week. I'm pretty sure it's a psychologically destructive form of escapism, creating an ingame persona that is completely different from reality, reinforcing the feeling that they are actually doing something with their lives because they are raiding Mythic and not Heroic.
    Who the fuck are you to say this shit? Allow me to dismantle your piss poor shitpost.

    1. I never said anyone else should "retire" because they don't play at my level, I said that's the level I play at and enjoy.

    2. I'm married with a full time job, I raid 2 nights a week and log on to do 1 hard m+ for weekly chest, and play around some easy m+ with friends on weekends.

    So how about you crawl back under your rock and shut your mouth.
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  13. #93
    Legion is many things, but void of content ain't one.

    People unable to see that can gtfo.

  14. #94
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    Nothing for non-raiders

  15. #95
    Quote Originally Posted by Berthier View Post
    i think he mean that there is atm only ToS nothing others to do besides m+ i hope 7.3.0 comes fast we need some new outdoor content
    Can people stop being unrealistic with constant demands of outdoor content?

    WOTLK, "the glory days of WOW when it had most subs" during the whole course of expansion after the launch added 2 things that weren't raids:
    1. Argent Tournament with dailies and 1 dungeon.
    2. 3 dungeons in ICC.

    That's it! Rest was launch content, or new raids.

    And TBC? Except last Sunwell patch with Isle of Quel'danas, was there any non-raid patch? Black Temple and Zul'Aman were both raids after all.

    Cataclysm? Same idea as WOTLK, Molten Front as a mid-expac daily hub, 3 new dungeons with Dragon Soul launch, end of story.

    There is new non-raid content added in 7.2.5 like the new pet battle dungeon, the Chromie scenario, few micro-holidays and small improvements to the recurrent holidays (like midsummer now), few easter eggs like the new sun darter hatchling pet or shoe-shine kit toy, but .5 patches are meant to be raid patches anyway. 7.1 and 7.2 already added bunch of non-raid content each.

    When was the outdoor content even a main focus of WOW? Never. Either you pvped or you did dungeons / raids or you were a casual farmer / collector grinding stuff, often the same stuff for ages.

    Legion is catering to casuals like no expansion ever and they're still complaining about "no content".

    Now compare it to other Blizzard games like Hots or Overwatch, it's enough they release some new hero, map and bunch of skins from time to time, omg so much content, or they plug in some event awarding extra loot crates or cosmetics and people immediately flock to it like bees to the honey. No wonder Blizzard is branching more and more into these games because their playerbase is easier to satisfy plus drops tons of irl money into them for collection purposes. Even worse in Hearthstone, 3 times per year they release some extra cards and slap a "pre purchase 40 packs with irl money get 10 free" deal and people are immediately grabbing their wallets.

    I still believe wow is the least of a cash grab and gives the most varied content from all Blizzard games around. It even gives you means to earn currency convertible into tokens that allow you do buy stuff from other Blizzard games, while no other Blizzard game allows you to do so (you can't convert HS or Diablo gold into anything).

    I really have no idea what are people complaining about, if you play wow, you do one of the following:
    1. Raid
    2. Farm m+ (option you didn't have before Legion and dungeons were obsoleted quickly)
    3. PVP
    4. Farm gold / collections
    5. Unsub until next patch, see ya in 3 months

    No way in hell wow is gonna stand on outdoor content it's either gonna be another 200 menial dailies in Argus or "farm / camp stuff with low droprates", y'know exactly like timeless isle.

    The fact we have recurring weekly events like pvp brawls, timewalking, and other is already plenty of variety if you stay away from raids. We didn't have these in the past, brawls were added in Legion and timewalking / other weekly events were added midway HFC in late WOD. Which I think both were great ideas. Micro holidays less so, but they sprinkle the calendar for those who find them fun, I don't mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Embriel View Post
    I killed all the bosses in the tomb tonight and now there's no new content until the next raid. Isn't the last boss in a raid take at least weeks to even get to see?
    So u got ur Curve already? nice.
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  17. #97
    Quote Originally Posted by Rorcanna View Post
    Legion is many things, but void of content ain't one.

    People unable to see that can gtfo.
    Agreed, Legion has more non-raid content than any expansion before.

  18. #98
    Quote Originally Posted by Marrilaife View Post
    Agreed, Legion has more non-raid content than any expansion before.
    Like????? and dont you fucking dare say World Quests

  19. #99
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    Mythic isn't even out yet.....

    If normal and heroic lasted longer than the first week people would be whining like little girls about the game should be accessible to everyone and not just the "elitists"

    (whilst having no gear, no enchants, no ap, no legendaries and no clue wtf they're doing)

  20. #100
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schmilblick View Post
    Killing the same bosses on different difficulties is "content" now ?
    I'm surpriesed in 2017there is still people that thinks Normal/HC is content

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leyre View Post
    Like????? and dont you fucking dare say World Quests
    Like TBC, shit of the lich king....and so on

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