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  1. #401
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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    That is a freedom, one you seek to limit a great deal.
    It isn't a right.

  2. #402
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cherise View Post
    Nah, it's pretty obvious they want to use the socialist policies in these countries to live for free and get free stuff. I mean in Sweden, like 95% of them still havent found work after 5 years and are leeching welfare. Somehow they tend to avoid countries that actually expect them to support themselves.
    In Estonia refugees are expected to integrate and work, so naturally all of them ran away back to Germany. Also we have 0 mosques in country.

  3. #403
    Quote Originally Posted by I Push Buttons View Post
    But no one claims all refugees are terrorists.

    They claim some are terrorists, then argue they should not be allowed entry since there is no way to discern who is and is not a terrorist.

    You yourself seem to subscribe to the same belief or you would have said no refugees are terrorist... The only difference between you and them is that you believe they should be allowed in regardless of whether there are terrorist among them.
    If some of them are terrorists, that is ALL the reason why I would NEVER EVER let them in to my country.

    Go back whence they came, and bloody fight for their countries. Bloody cowards. The whole lot of em.

  4. #404
    Quote Originally Posted by Tennisace View Post
    Lovely heartwarming video.

    Some people lack compassion and decency to be upset at something like this. How sad!
    People are upset because its nothing but leftist propeganda to flood our country with refugees.
    You don't bring millions of people with a incompatible culture into your land and expect peace and prosperity.
    The only real option is to stabilize the middle east with american and NATO military, demand saudis and israel play a role.

    George Soros and his companies have actually been sending millions of flyers to various african and middle eastern countries that give details on how to immigrate to europe, how to avoid authorities, the fastest routes, different words in different languages, etc, its disgusting, he is using the refugees for a greater purpose, not to help them.

    Democrats also love refugees and immigrants because they are far more likely to vote democrat, as they where the helping hands who let them in, I call that bribery.

  5. #405
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daethz View Post
    George Soros and his companies have actually been sending millions of flyers to various african and middle eastern countries that give details on how to immigrate to europe, how to avoid authorities, the fastest routes, different words in different languages, etc, its disgusting, he is using the refugees for a greater purpose, not to help them.
    You got a source on that, because my googling hasn't turned up a whole lot.

  6. #406
    Very sorry to say but if even 1 out of 100,000 refugees are a terrorist.
    That 1 terrorist could murder 100 americans in a truck attack.
    That means the government has failed its primary directive in keeping it's tax paying citizens safe.
    I don't want to pay taxes to facilitate the entrance of thousands of refugees into my nation that may or may not end up mass murdering my fellow american's.
    The middle east and africa are bad regions to live in and people are leaving them to go to europe western nations because of their failed cultures that have created failed forms of governance.

    Instead of living under a king or queen of England americans attacked the oppressor and built a new nation united, why can't refugees do the same in their own countrys instead of taking the easy way and coming to america, a nation they hate based on their own culture and religious tendencies?

    At the very least a refugees family should not be allowed to vote in any western nation for 5 generations.
    Last edited by Daethz; 2017-06-22 at 06:40 PM.

  7. #407
    Quote Originally Posted by jackofwind View Post
    Hyperbole can be hard for some people to understand

    It's okay, the nuances of conversational English can be subtle.
    Of that there is no doubt, but the topic of hyperbole is of no relevance to our conversation. There is no need to deflect onto a tangential subject when a statement of yours is shown to be a falsehood.
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  8. #408
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    So, since you feel they should respect your culture, you should in turn respect their culture, and their desire to not take part in your culture, even if within your borders. After all, if they are there, and are not harming others, then there's no cause to force your culture upon them.
    If their actions are the obvious precursor to actions that cause harm to others and that harm is irreversible I have a moral duty to act in a manner that temporarily infringes on their freedoms. I dont have a problem with most cultures because most do just fine in coexisting and following the law of the land.

    Values are largely shared through a common language and culture and of course through religion too. You are right, I would indeed argue to force a shared language and certain parts of our culture on people who migrate here. Language first, the part of culture that is the law second, the part that is just cultural custom third and religion a forth, as freedom of religion applies. However religious customs of the minority culture, when in conflict with the law of the land, must be discontinued.

    My percieved necessity for a strong enforcement of these tenets is based on empirical data. Imigration needs a leading culture, something that inherently social beings such as humans can relate to. People want to be valued members of communities. Successful imigration needs to demand certain efforts of the imigrant in exchange, otherwise self segregation is likely to follow. This is increasingly true the further apart key factors are between minority and majority culture. Again this is coroborated by empirical data.

    In some cases the empirical data would suggest that the best course of action, for both minority and majority cultures that already exist here, is too suspend or most severely restrict immigration from certain minority cultures. A critical mass of people from vastly different culture and socioeconomic standing with no current prospects on the job market are bound to be a problem in many ways. Any newcomer that loosely belongs to said minority group will be tempted or, with regards to what actualy is reality, gravitate towards familiarity. Many dont want to achieve success in what i counted under key factors, but rather seek recognition only with their respective minority peer group. You can obvserve these behaviours in the US too, usually in gangs or extremely religious sects. Both are antisocial and destrucitve to the fabric of society.

  9. #409
    Quote Originally Posted by GoblinP View Post
    It isn't a right.
    I'll take freedoms over rights any day of the week.

  10. #410
    Quote Originally Posted by Lemposs View Post
    You got a source on that, because my googling hasn't turned up a whole lot.
    They're turning the frogs gay!!!
    1776 will commence again!!!

  11. #411
    Quote Originally Posted by Alexeht View Post


    Well it looks like someone paid google even more so they continue with their propaganda (just after #powertodecide propaganda video). If people are willing to spend money on people that need them so be it, but how about we all just send those money to countries where those people need them instead importing them like there is nothing more important!? Well at least it looks like people around the world do not buy to this video (while I was typing this post video had ~150k dislikes to ~60k likes). Don't buy into cheap lies friends!
    You need help. But welcome to Planet Earth, where every human being is of varying colour and not just white.

  12. #412
    Quote Originally Posted by Owenm View Post
    You need help.
    What a riveting, informative, thought provoking post!

  13. #413
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    Quote Originally Posted by s_bushido View Post
    They're turning the frogs gay!!!
    1776 will commence again!!!
    Well strangely enough the only thing I really found was a guide book to people that were entering in Greece. Which does fall in line with the EU policy on spreading them out.
    That and of course, all of us Scandinavian countries flyers which essentially tells them that we are horrible places and that they shouldn't come here.

  14. #414
    Quote Originally Posted by Owenm View Post
    You need help. But welcome to Planet Earth, where every human being is of varying colour and not just white.
    You need help if you do not see how in this video they showed minority of refugees.
    Quote Originally Posted by Shinra1 View Post
    black people have no power, privilege they cannot be racist since they were oppressed
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodakane View Post
    Men are NOT suffering societal hardships due to being male. That doesn't exist in most 1st world countries.

  15. #415
    Quote Originally Posted by Lemposs View Post
    Well strangely enough the only thing I really found was a guide book to people that were entering in Greece. Which does fall in line with the EU policy on spreading them out.
    That and of course, all of us Scandinavian countries flyers which essentially tells them that we are horrible places and that they shouldn't come here.
    Well, I just hope you're not seriously expecting the type of person who blames the world's problems on the nefarious machinations of the evil George Soros to provide a source from his claim that isn't either entirely fabricated or taken completely out of context.

  16. #416
    Quote Originally Posted by Runenwächter View Post
    rather, anyone moving anywhere anytime you want.


    Managing money and national security have a lot in common: I can avoid a lot of trainwrecks and achieve the same amount of peace, stability and prosperity by acting preemptively rather than reactively. I do not give a loan to people who are unlikely able or willing to repay me. I do not let masked individuals with no ID into my offices. I do a backgroundcheck on the people I do business with. I discriminate on the basis of observable reality for the sake of my institution and by extension it's clients.

    The greatest amount of freedom and personal liberty in a balance with security and stability is not reached without force and never in the history of mankind it has been.
    Simply moving doesnt harm us, thats right. But do they move through empty space? No, they use our roads and infrastructure. Do they pay for their own necessities out of their own pockets? No they dont. Is this about MOVING in the first place or is the problem rather that they stop moving and stay? It is the later obviously.
    That is not "free movement" with no friction. But whats important is what follows "movement". And that is collision and resulting damage.

    Economically and culturally speaking the space is already occupied and their "free movement" can only happen if whatever was there is forced out. The only acceptable way for this to occur is when the place is when that space is given freely, voluntarily, without coersion, not out of simply the goodness of the heart but because it seems beneficial to both sides.
    If you doubt that, try the following experiment: Let someone move their fist with great velocity towards your face with the aim of stoping his fist right in the middle of where your head is now and see where this gets you. Pain is where.

    Simply moving doesnt cause harm, so no reason for oppressive preemptive actions right? Of course simply stepping out of the way solves the issue of pain, but not the underlying problem that an attempted assault just happend.

    You know this isnt about moving at all because moving was never the endgoal of migration.


    An attack has not been initiated only after the damage was confirmed. Drawing a gun doesnt cause harm. Speeding towards a group of pedestrians doesnt cause harm. They are both however indicators of clear and present danger that is to be avoided.
    Protecting yourself from an attack is recognizing patterns and to act largely preemptively withing reasonable limits.

    I suggest you do you, whatever that may be. Just try not to fuck with the national sourvernity and cultural heritage of people that are not your own. It cant be that hard not to ruin it for everyone else, even if you are from the US.
    This post is a thing of beauty. Too bad Machismo will ignore the message and confuse your rational view as authoritarian.
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  17. #417
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    Quote Originally Posted by Owenm View Post
    You need help. But welcome to Planet Earth, where every human being is of varying colour and not just white.
    Welcome to Europe. We still rule here. It is still our homeland. If someone who doesn't belong here wants to stay here by force, we can give him 1x1m of our land.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeth Hawkins View Post
    Of that there is no doubt, but the topic of hyperbole is of no relevance to our conversation. There is no need to deflect onto a tangential subject when a statement of yours is shown to be a falsehood.
    Yet somehow you're still not understanding that my comment was hyperbole

    In conversational English the statement "no one believes you" can be colloquially understood to mean "very few people, or nearly no one, believes you."
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    Because fuck you, that's why.

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    Well, I just hope you're not seriously expecting the type of person who blames the world's problems on the nefarious machinations of the evil George Soros to provide a source from his claim that isn't either entirely fabricated or taken completely out of context.
    Well if I don't get an actual link, I'll lean on the side of it being utter BS, which strangely tends to be the way these things play out.

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    I like how this is propaganda, but Alex Jones, Fox News, Breitbart and Trumps official Twitter are legitimate source materials.

    Never change conservatives, atleast you can do something right by bringing comedy into this world.
    There are no worse scum in this world than fascists, rebels and political hypocrites.
    Donald Trump is only like Hitler because of the fact he's losing this war on all fronts.
    Apparently condemning a fascist ideology is the same as being fascist. And who the fuck are you to say I can't be fascist against fascist ideologies?
    If merit was the only dividing factor in the human race, then everyone on Earth would be pretty damn equal.

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