It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shakes, the shakes become a warning.
-Kujako-
“You're not to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who does it or says it.”― Malcolm X
I watch them fight and die in the name of freedom. They speak of liberty and justice, but for whom? -Ratonhnhaké:ton (Connor Kenway)
This Trumpcare death bill will get passed the Senate the same way it got through the House.
1. There will be GOP complaints made just for show.
2. McConnell will offer a few billion dollars here and there (i.e. virtually nothing in the massive scheme of the healthcare system and will not change the cruelty and death) to bribe the holdouts.
3. This insignificant movement will be reported as a big concession by the media.
4. Then they will ram this thing through on Thursday.
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So, early impressions I've seen of the Senate version are that it's still much worse than the ACA, just slightly better than the House version of Trumpcare.
Oh how lucky we are.
Video of disabled people literally ripped from their wheelchair protesting the Trumpcare death bill.
https://twitter.com/mattmfm/status/877932005593300993
https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/877923923958038528
Some of the responses to those tweets were downright barbaric. Blaming Democrats for using people in wheelchairs as pawns, claiming that the CBO is Fake News and nobody is going to lose Healthcare, and telling the disabled that it's their fault they're disabled to begin with. Is there no new low that Republican supporters will not stoop to to defend their team?
“You're not to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who does it or says it.”― Malcolm X
I watch them fight and die in the name of freedom. They speak of liberty and justice, but for whom? -Ratonhnhaké:ton (Connor Kenway)
Looking at videos of the protests...
I think I would strongly consider quitting if I was an officer.
Resident Cosplay Progressive
That's because you're not in office.
A Democrat won't resign over this, they'll fight the attack on the poor, sick, and old to the death.
A Republican...well, they don't care. I mean, yes that's a generalization, but look at the evidence we've been provided. After the TrumpCare 1.0 and 2.0, where did they hide? Away from town halls? Away from the press? Crafting the next one in secret meetings behind closed doors?
There is zero to negative evidence that TrumpCare 1.0 2.0 or 3.0 will help people who are sick. It will cut taxes for the rich, at the expense of poor people paying more for health care, or losing it entirely. There is no other description of any of these three attempts that is valid and accurate.
And, arguably most importantly, it will hurt their own base -- rural, blue collar, undereducated, Souther, and old -- the most.
The CBO report is due Monday or Tuesday. Just because it's not as bloody as TrumpCare 2.0 doesn't mean it won't be a mess. Bring a sponge.
It's amazing to me that even after having 7 years to come up with an alternative the GOP just can't manage it.
That's because they don't really want to improve the ACA, because doing that would cost money. Therefore, any plan they could have come up with would have been less costly - and therefore, unless they were really creative, worse - than the ACA. In this case they also wanted to save money for their new tax cuts, so that meant they had to take even more money out of the ACA. Which is his how we got the POS the House came up with.
They cannot make a better plan than the ACA without spending more money. It just can't be done, especially with how conflicted they are. That's why they were so heavily against it in the first place.
I agree but would phrase it this way -- they cannot repeal the ACA in a way that gives a tax break to the rich. Therefore they aren't interested in having it happen.
There is a theory bouncing around that McConnell actually wants the bill to fail in the Senate so he doesn't risk the damage to his majority. And it may very well not get the 50 votes.
Government programs should be designed to be temporary anyway. Also the people who want access to them should have to pay into the programs in order to get access to them. Lastly, illegals should get a lifetime ban on receiving them.