Dissolve Illinois

[Zython]

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No one here has ever been to Illinois, have they?

[Shadoweye]

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No one here has ever been to Illinois, have they?

I lived in Rockford (NW of Chicago about 90 miles) for about 6 years, and was glad i fucking left in mid May. Property taxes are way to high, crime was insane, gun laws were fucking ridiculous (IL just got the right to concealed carry a few years ago)... the state government was shit, the roads are shit, and now pretty much all state contractors/construction is being halted July 1, because they cant pay the bills. Let alone state lotteries sending people IOUs for the past several years.

[Damajin]

According to the map and description, the part of Chicago with all the shootings would end up in Indiana...which is where most of the guns involved in the shootings come from anyway, so it's appropriate...

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The article is mostly satirical. He's not really proposing to break up the state.

Thanks, I couldn't have figured that out without you.

Satire can also be used to push legitimate ideas last I checked.

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What even is a 'union monopoly?' That sounds like a buzz phrase anti-union people came up with.

Also, no, Detroit didn't become the way it did because of unions. The automotive industry collapsed.

The problems in Detroit were here long before the auto industry collapsed, which incidentally since it's somewhat 'back' we still have the same problems here as Chicago: crime, rampant expenditures and huge amounts of debt. On top of that we have what Chicago doesn't have: crumbling city infrastructure, ghost villages and low use/high cost neighborhoods.

Michigan is a shitty place to live in general, Detroit even moreso.

[Flarelaine]

I seriously wonder what sort of life you lead when you think a city that is a center of start up business, a financial hub of the country, and headquarters to major corporations

Also Hog Butcher, Tool Maker, Stacker of Wheat, Player with Railroads and Freight Handler to the Nation.

[Dastreus]

I smell economic libertarian BS in this.

[Paranoid Android]

I'm sure we could use a few of the Bears players!

No. The whole Bears team would be in Chicago. That means Wisconsin having two teams, and that one team is the hated Bears.

Plus, cmon! There are no good players on the Bears

[Osmeric]

I could see the federal government passing a law allowing for state bankruptcy. This would be such a shame for all those Illinois government pensioners and bondholders, but you get what you deserve.

[Damajin]

The problem with all of these liberal states is they ruin their own homes, move, and try to do the same thing to other states. If you're stupid enough to ruin IL or CA, you should have to live with it. Just like how these people keep saying "oh, but true socialism has never been tried!" after states like Venezuela fail, the same types of people say the same things when they bankrupt their own states.

Yep, that's why you see parts of Texas flooded with ex Californians.

[Flarelaine]

Yep. I live in TX, and most of the major cities at this point are straight up liberal shit holes because of the influx of people from out of state. If it wasn't for the large number of people that live outside of the major urban areas, TX would be screwed.

TX is inching closer to being blue, election by election.

[SL1200]

I love it here. If the taxes are too high, move away. Stop your whining. Go see if you can earn the money you earn here in one of the southern states. There's a reason most people who leave come back.

[Collegeguy]

There would be a huge fight over who doesn't want Chicago.

[Beazy]

Yep, that's why you see parts of Texas flooded with ex Californians.

To be fair, most Californians that I know who have moved to TX, open bad ass places to eat. So I welcome everyone from Cali to come here and feed me the sweet foods of the earth. Please.

[SL1200]

Nah. All that happens is liberal morons concentrate and dilute their power in the urban areas while the rest of the state votes red and dictates policy to them. Even Wendy Davis, the strongest Democratic candidate for governor in a generation, got thumped when she ran.

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Do you have any stats to prove that when most people leave they come back?

No, but I hope everyone leaves. It's crowded here.

[Flarelaine]

Nah. All that happens is liberal morons concentrate and dilute their power in the urban areas while the rest of the state votes red and dictates policy to them. Even Wendy Davis, the strongest Democratic candidate for governor in a generation, got thumped when she ran.

That sentence does not make sense. Either they concentrate or they dilute.

[Lenonis]

What about the other half?

What about it? Did you actually read the full exchange?

[Rend Blackhand]

If Illinois is a shitehole with all these problems then they need to find a solution for the problem, however hard that may be.

Splitting the problem between 5 states would solve precisely shit all.

[Symphonic]

We could dissolve illinois, and then make puerto rico a state, so we don't have to change the 50 stars on the flag!!! GREAT IDEA I CAME UP WITH!

[Powerogue]

I don't see how splitting up the land would fix the problem. It'd only bug people as we'd have 49 states.