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    Turkish schools to stop teaching evolution, official says

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-official-says

    Evolution will no longer be taught in Turkish schools, a senior education official has said, in a move likely to raise the ire of the country’s secular opposition.

    Alpaslan Durmuş, who chairs the board of education, said evolution was debatable, controversial and too complicated for students.

    “We believe that these subjects are beyond their [students] comprehension,” said Durmuş in a video published on the education ministry’s website.

    Durmuş said a chapter on evolution was being removed from ninth grade biology course books, and the subject postponed to the undergraduate period. Another change to the curriculum may reduce the amount of time that students spend studying the legacy of secularism.

    Critics of the government believe public life is being increasingly stripped of the secular traditions instilled by the nation’s founder, Mustafa Kemal Atatürk.

    The secular opposition has long argued that the government of Recep Tayyip Erdoğan is pursuing a covert Islamist agenda contrary to the republic’s founding values. Education is a particularly contentious avenue, because of its potential in shaping future generations. Small-scale protests by parents in local schools have opposed the way religion is taught.

    There is little acceptance of evolution as a concept among mainstream Muslim clerics in the Middle East, who believe it contradicts the story of creation in scripture, in which God breathed life into the first man, Adam, after shaping him from clay. Still, evolution is briefly taught in many high school biology courses in the region.

    The final changes to the curriculum are likely to be announced next week after the Muslim Eid or Bayram festival at the end of the fasting month of Ramadan. The draft changes had been put forth for public consultation at the beginning of the year.

    The subject of evolution in particular stirred debate earlier this year after Numan Kurtulmuş, the deputy prime minister, described the process as a theory that was both archaic and lacking sufficient evidence.
    NATO member and EU candidate state right there.

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    Religion doing what it's always done, in other words.

    "Archaic and lacking sufficient evidence"... Meanwhile, you can see evolution take place as we speak.

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    I read on a thread in reddit that they are making it easier to get higher grades in school which is the easiest way to inflate results.

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    Can we rename Turkey to The Other Islamic State now?

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    It's sad that we have got to a point where Mankind is going BACKWARDS as a species.

    Soon science will be banned because lefties will be upset that it triggers their favourite religious people.

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    Ah, Turkey beat Texas to actual implementation.

    Don't worry Texas, we won't think any less of you in that regard if you get there second. We couldn't possibly think any less of you in this regard...

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    So dumb.... *sigh*

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    Sounds like they need some freedom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unbound View Post
    Ah, Turkey beat Texas to actual implementation.

    Don't worry Texas, we won't think any less of you in that regard if you get there second. We couldn't possibly think any less of you in this regard...
    On the bright side, Texas has some decent food.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Dracula View Post
    It's sad that we have got to a point where Mankind is going BACKWARDS as a species.

    Soon science will be banned because lefties will be upset that it triggers their favourite religious people.
    Nope. Science is the cudgel that the left uses to beat down people of the religions they feel are "dominant." Science won't be banned anytime soon by the left, but you might see the right ban it.
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    We're all doomed. Let these retards shuffle the chairs on the titanic. They can die in a safe space if they want to... Whatever. What a miserable joke this life is. I can't wait until it's all finally over and I can return to the sweet oblivion of the void.

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    And religion leads another formerly secular nation into a backslide to the Dark Ages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by devla View Post
    Can we rename Turkey to The Other Islamic State now?
    I live in Turkey and i support that we should.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fincayra View Post
    Nope. Science is the cudgel that the left uses to beat down people of the religions they feel are "dominant." Science won't be banned anytime soon by the left, but you might see the right ban it.
    The moment the left started talking about 72 genders is the moment they stopped being the "YEAH WE SCIENCE NOW!" party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cybran View Post
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-official-says



    NATO member and EU candidate state right there.
    They're changing it to be taught later in school. It's not being removed from school, which is something that states in the US are trying their best to do and the US is supposed to be a first world country. Even though that process of destroying the US education system with attempts at removing or blocking the teaching of science in favor of "alternatives" for several decades now.
    So not only is your title a not true, your tragic attempt at trashtalking the EU once more falls short.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Dracula View Post
    The moment the left started talking about 72 genders is the moment they stopped being the "YEAH WE SCIENCE NOW!" party.
    Yay, strawmen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Dracula View Post
    The moment the left started talking about 72 genders is the moment they stopped being the "YEAH WE SCIENCE NOW!" party.
    It's only real science if it doesn't hurt people's feelings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    Yay, strawmen.
    How is that a strawmen? I am happy to concede that is quite off topic since the focus should be turkey, but people pushing for 72 genders is as anti-science as people pushing against evolution.

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    Cannot blame it.
    It is surrendered by Muslim countries.

    It doesn't want to be the enemy of 1+ billion Muslims.
    Plus ISIS would love to have a nearby country to use as suicide bomb training ground.
    Wait ... suicide bomber cannot be trained. They dead after once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xenogear3 View Post
    Cannot blame it.
    It is surrendered by Muslim countries.

    It doesn't want to be the enemy of 1+ billion Muslims.
    Plus ISIS would love to have a nearby country to use as suicide bomb training ground.
    Wait ... suicide bomber cannot be trained. They dead after once.
    Surrendering your principles to avoid fights is the fastest way to become someone's slave.

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    I remember clearly a dude of the region mentioning something once about looking at the mote in the eyes of others while overlooking the beam in yours...

    IE, if there is ONE subject that Americans (and Russians : hi, Lyssenko) are ill placed to comment, it's evolution teaching in schools.

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