Democrats just went 0-4. When will they win?

[Daelak]

I have to ask. Do you actually believe what you typed in the last few replies you made or are you acting out a character. I am not entirely certain anymore to be honest.

What, pray tell, would the US look like if we had the environmental regulations of India, with the removal of the EPA? What, pray tell, would the US look like with the removal of financial regulations and reform of the CFPB? What, pray tell, would the US look like when republican supermajorities in states mandate faith-based classes in public education when federal circuit and appellate courts have been effectively nullified by a republican majority congress and executive branch by not funding and expanding the amount of judges in the country? What, pray tell, would the US look like if we removed the FDA, DoE, IRS, Medicare, Medicaid? Just answer the question.

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CNN was caught multiple times lying in recent memory. The most aggrieve example being them creating a fake rally and filming themselves...

Have you ever considered that maybe. Just maybe the person you disagree with might have a legitimate concern you attempt to bury with partisan politics? Creditable news is sadly something that has to be searched for rather then presented to them.

That wasn't lying, and they didn't make up a rally. This is the prime example of how deluded right wing people are. You cannot even reconcile with reality anymore, and you keep going deeper into the rabbit hole.

[Dmitro]

I'm curious how you state this when democrats received more overall votes for president, the house, and the senate in 2016?

you definitely have 0 clue how voting in america works. even if dems get 100% of votes in Ca and both the costs it still doesnt matter as long as the party loses in SWING states.

[primalmatter]

What, pray tell, would the US look like if we had the environmental regulations of India, with the removal of the EPA? What, pray tell, would the US look like with the removal of financial regulations and reform of the CFPB? What, pray tell, would the US look like when republican supermajorities in states mandate faith-based classes in public education when federal circuit and appellate courts have been effectively nullified by a republican majority congress and executive branch by not funding and expanding the amount of judges in the country? What, pray tell, would the US look like if we removed the FDA, DoE, IRS, Medicare, Medicaid? Just answer the question.

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That wasn't lying, and they didn't make up a rally. This is the prime example of how deluded right wing people are. You cannot even reconcile with reality anymore, and you keep going deeper into the rabbit hole.

It would look like the 90s. This isn't a new development.


Call me skeptical.

[Daelak]

It would look like the 90s. This isn't a new development.


Call me skeptical.

I guess the police are in on it too right? CNN controls most of the police officers in London, as well has a direct line of communication with the radical mosques in the region to help push their radical narrative of peaceful muslims.

[primalmatter]

I guess the police are in on it too right? CNN controls most of the police officers in London, as well has a direct line of communication with the radical mosques in the region to help push their radical narrative of peaceful muslims.

Do you have a question for me or are you just going to spout buzzwords?

There is real tension between immigrants and native populations. We are starting to see even the later engage in terrorist attacks as the governments inaction on the issue leaves them feeling helpless.

This isn't a situation anyone wants to be in and each person believes they have the right answer. I believe that they think placating will help so that is what they are trying to do.

[Lenonis]

you definitely have 0 clue how voting in america works. even if dems get 100% of votes in Ca and both the costs it still doesnt matter as long as the party loses in SWING states.

You are new here so I'll give you some leeway, but I created a lengthy math-filled post showing how the concentration of liberals/dems into urban areas is hurting them in the electoral college even while their base is growing faster than the GOP.

So yes, I have a clue how voting in America works. More of a clue than you apparently since a growing party that is increasing it's base faster than the opposition is not a dying party even if the electoral college and voter suppression efforts of the GOP are making it hard for them to get elected.

And, once again, this gleeful gloating over the demise of a party is exactly what the GOP warned the Dems against leading up to 2016. Now the GOP is making the same mistake not even one year later. How dumb is that eh?

[Daelak]

Do you have a question for me or are you just going to spout buzzwords?

There is real tension between immigrants and native populations. We are starting to see even the later engage in terrorist attacks as the governments inaction on the issue leaves them feeling helpless.

This isn't a situation anyone wants to be in and each person believes they have the right answer. I believe that they think placating will help so that is what they are trying to do.

Another conservative going on a non-sequitur because they can't discuss about the facts I laid out to make your "opinion" about CNN making up fake muslim rallies is full of shit.

[Allybeboba]

The irony in this combo from our favorite "have a nice day" woke independent is almost painful.

What was ironic about it? Explain, if you can, without any derogatory comments.

[Dmitro]

You are new here so I'll give you some leeway, but I created a lengthy math-filled post showing how the concentration of liberals/dems into urban areas is hurting them in the electoral college even while their base is growing faster than the GOP.

So yes, I have a clue how voting in America works. More of a clue than you apparently since a growing party that is increasing it's base faster than the opposition is not a dying party even if the electoral college and voter suppression efforts of the GOP are making it hard for them to get elected.

And, once again, this gleeful gloating over the demise of a party is exactly what the GOP warned the Dems against leading up to 2016. Now the GOP is making the same mistake not even one year later. How dumb is that eh?

1) A party which doesnt get enough seats to impact decision making process is a dying party, thats how things work in america, since we dont have 3+ party system.
Again, you may grow your numbers as much as you can in your strongholds, while the republicans have given up the coastal states totally and instead concentrated on important swing states like Florida and Ohio with their centrist message.
I am 100% confident that the democratic party going hard to the left will make sure they are unelectable in 50-50 states.

so you'll have a party with larger member base but no white house and a 35-45% minority in both house and congress.
not dying indeed.

[Lenonis]

1) A party which doesnt get enough seats to impact decision making process is a dying party, thats how things work in america, since we dont have 3+ party system.

No, a party whose base is shrinking is a dying party. I'm just going to put this in an agree-to-disagree category. Especially since if demographic trends continue the Dems will regain power just by growing even in more rural areas.

I am 100% confident that the democratic party going hard to the left will make sure they are unelectable in 50-50 states.

I don't know what you mean by 50-50 states but if you honestly think the GOP will win all 50 states....ever...you are delusional.

Hey, keep writing the Dems off -- I'm sure it'll work great for you like the Dems writing the GOP off in 2016. Keep fighting the good fight.

[Dmitro]

No, a party whose base is shrinking is a dying party. I'm just going to put this in an agree-to-disagree category. Especially since if demographic trends continue the Dems will regain power just by growing even in more rural areas.

I don't know what you mean by 50-50 states but if you honestly think the GOP will win all 50 states....ever...you are delusional.

Hey, keep writing the Dems off -- I'm sure it'll work great for you like the Dems writing the GOP off in 2016. Keep fighting the good fight.

by 50-50 states i obviously mean swings states. The gop will never ever win coastal states imo because of minorities and overall political tribalization of our contry, sad so say but we will never have a republican governor of California ( like Reagan).
But in swings states they gonna get a huge boots imo since the dems are moving so far left it seems and those policies are far less popular in neutral states.

[Lenonis]

by 50-50 states i obviously mean swings states. The gop will never ever win coastal states imo because of minorities and overall political tribalization of our contry, sad so say but we will never have a republican governor of California ( like Reagan).
But in swings states they gonna get a huge boots imo since the dems are moving so far left it seems and those policies are far less popular in neutral states.

*shrug* We'll see in 2018. The GOP is on the defensive with the only saving grace for them is that in the Senate the seats are up are mostly the Dems to loose. But there is little in current politics that relates to historic trends so it's really hard to predict what will happen. Because of the nature of politics it's all about turnout. Since overall turnout is so low, it won't take much for Dems to sweep swing states if you have Trump's toxic brand suppress GOP turnout by 2% and Dem anger and motivation increase Dem turnout 2%.

The house election in 2018 will give a good read to see how things are shaking out with this "new normal" of politics.

[Lothar from accounting]

sad so say but we will never have a republican governor of California ( like Reagan).

Seems like it's been a pretty even split ever since Saint Ronny.

Edit: Even split by number of republican vs. democrat governors, with said republicans having a slight lead on overall time in office.

[primalmatter]

Another conservative going on a non-sequitur because they can't discuss about the facts I laid out to make your "opinion" about CNN making up fake muslim rallies is full of shit.

I am not a conservative though... yeah gun to my head I like Trump more then Hilary but that is about as far as I go.

[Edge-]

It would look like the 90s. This isn't a new development.


Call me skeptical.

Do you have a video to that segment airing on any news channels?

Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXZzwwUVpWk is linked (complete with the usual conspiracy theorists pontificating), but the problem is the segment they actually show of the CNN video doesn't contain this bit in it.

[Daelak]

I am not a conservative though... yeah gun to my head I like Trump more then Hilary but that is about as far as I go.

Yet you still maintain that a news organization is pushing fake rallies with peaceful muslims, I don't think you need a gun to your head to say you are a Trump supporter.

[zenkai]

The democrats are dying within from their crazy braindead hard left wing thats poisoning their whole message.
America is not Europe and a socialist in our country is a very negative word ( thank god)


Trust me, if Ossoff wasnt a centrist but rather a bernie bro he woulda lost like 35 to 65 or even more.

Don't say that, the pendulum swings both ways. Democrats here was saying the same thing 2 years ago about Republicans even though Republicans had picked up seats in congress. People got sick of Democrats shit and voted Republican, people will get tired of Republican's shit and vote Democrat next.

There is a lot of infighting among Democrats right now, but it's nowhere near Tea Party.

[primalmatter]

Yet you still maintain that a news organization is pushing fake rallies with peaceful muslims, I don't think you need a gun to your head to say you are a Trump supporter.

I would say im 50\50 at most I agree with parts of what he does just as I am sure you do at least somewhat.

[cubby]

I would say im 50\50 at most I agree with parts of what he does just as I am sure you do at least somewhat.

Wow, really? What do you agree with that he has done? And I mean actually done, not said he'd do.

[Dmitro]

Wow, really? What do you agree with that he has done? And I mean actually done, not said he'd do.

minor things like -ttp, -paris accord,- immigration tendency and so on and we need to give him a year to actually see how his major agenda points are doing ( like healthcare, the wall, tax reform)