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    Quote Originally Posted by Skroe View Post
    This absolutely doesn't put an egg on the face of anti-Trump whatsoever. This is about Bernie Sanders and his wife being shady. Shocking? Hardly.

    Anti-Trump is about addressing an attack on our democracy by a foreign power and it's American collaborators.

    The former will be forgotten about if Mrs. Sanders goes to Prison after a couple of years. The latter is going to be taught in history books up there with Pearl Harbor and 9/11.

    There's no even-stevens here.
    His wife*
    Not Bernie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blade Wolf View Post
    People aren't pushing him for another presidential run, they are pushin for his policies which when polled have an overwhelming support.
    Yes I know. I'm not claiming that.

    But you know what/ Those policies will be better served with another front man than a compromised septuagenarian hypocrite.

    If I were you, and I believed what liberals believed, I'd throw him in the nearest, hottest volcano I can find.

    Public figures are disposable. When one blows it, find another Let natural selection weed out the charlatans. THe policy and the politics will be better for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by supertony51 View Post
    Oh please, Bernie might soften his message because he knows communism won't sell to the masses, but make no mistake, he is a communist.
    I only need one thing to indicate [to me] he is not, he interprets the nordic countries in general (and Denmark in particular) as socialist/social democrat. This is false, Denmark is between social democrat and liberal (social liberal / socioliberal) Taken in context then his own claim of being a democratic socialist could be shifted similarly to the right and will put him between liberal and social democrat. Which would be consisten with what he presented as a symbol of what could be done
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    Was every major face in the 2016 US election a criminal? Sure as hell seems like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skroe View Post
    I'm sorry but this is exactly the kind of shit I'm talking about. Stop protecting this jackass. He failed. You don't need him anymore. Throw him under a bus. Then drive the bus over him. You don't need him. Find a better successor.
    I'm not even American? Why should I? What did he do wrong? Stopping your support of a politician because they lost an election.. what? Not that I support him, but its silly.

    The party I vote for has never 'won' the elections here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeula View Post
    Was every major face in the 2016 US election a criminal? Sure as hell seems like it.
    How is Bernie a criminial?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    His wife*
    Not Bernie.
    This is excuse making. Technically absolutely correct. Politically, the distinction does not matter. They both go down for it.

    Take Hillary Clinton and Huma Abedin. Hillary's campaign director should have told her that she'd never see Huma ever again. Period. She could be President or keep Huma near by, not both. Huma was the victim in Anthony Weiner's perversions. But the distinction doesn't matter. They're radioactive-by-proxy. A good campaign director would have sent Huma on a one way South Pacific trip and Hillary should have gone "Huma who? That person I fired? Yeah fuck her."

    Sanders goes down with his wife. That's how quality control should work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skroe View Post
    Yes I know. I'm not claiming that.

    But you know what/ Those policies will be better served with another front man than a compromised septuagenarian hypocrite.

    If I were you, and I believed what liberals believed, I'd throw him in the nearest, hottest volcano I can find.

    Public figures are disposable. When one blows it, find another Let natural selection weed out the charlatans. THe policy and the politics will be better for it.
    His voter base does not see it like that, and the US hardly has a good supply of solid left wing politicians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    How is Bernie a criminial?
    He could be, if he's involved with bank fraud.

    Quote Originally Posted by supertony51 View Post
    Oh please, Bernie might soften his message because he knows communism won't sell to the masses, but make no mistake, he is a communist.
    Based on what? Anything specific?
    The wise wolf who's pride is her wisdom isn't so sharp as drunk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skroe View Post
    This is excuse making. Technically absolutely correct. Politically, the distinction does not matter. They both go down for it.

    Take Hillary Clinton and Huma Abedin. Hillary's campaign director should have told her that she'd never see Huma ever again. Period. She could be President or keep Huma near by, not both. Huma was the victim in Anthony Weiner's perversions. But the distinction doesn't matter. They're radioactive-by-proxy. A good campaign director would have sent Huma on a one way South Pacific trip and Hillary should have gone "Huma who? That person I fired? Yeah fuck her."

    Sanders goes down with his wife. That's how quality control should work.
    That is a problem with the system, not a reason to abandon a politician.
    Their families are very rarely in the news here, I just don't get this weird obsession.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kail View Post
    He could be, if he's involved with bank fraud.



    Based on what? Anything specific?
    So far, it seems to be his wife who is accused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    So far, it seems to be his wife who is accused.
    Unless they are separated, it is possible that he could be involved as well. This is the part the only sound advise is this: Let the professional investigators do their job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kail View Post
    Unless they are separated, it is possible that he could be involved as well. This is the part the only sound advise is this: Let the professional investigators do their job.
    Its possible, but no reason to assume he is in it like every liberal, conservative, whatever is doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kail View Post
    Unless they are separated, it is possible that he could be involved as well. This is the part the only sound advise is this: Let the professional investigators do their job.
    You are right. I certainly don't know everything my wife is up to with our finances. Why, just the other day she went shopping and didn't tell me.
    Seriously though, we need to give him the benefit of the doubt and let the professionals do their jobs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skroe View Post
    It's cult of personality shit straight out of Eastern Europe.
    Bold statement from the guy with a Saint Ronnie Raygun shrine in his bedroom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapemask View Post
    Only if you have poor reading comprehension skills.
    To be fair, one of the posters is on my ignore list because they're a troll, so they could have said something stupid.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rudol Von Stroheim View Post
    I do not need to play the role of "holier than thou". I'm above that..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skroe View Post
    It absolutely does. Check out Ben Sasse. It's not a press problem. It's a voter problem. Voters keep giving chances to people they shouldn't.
    The biggest problem we have is that we force out good presidents and do not allow anyone to build a lasting legacy. Term limits are poison for our country and democracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapemask View Post
    So there's no evidence of wrongdoing and this appears to be a standard investigation, but we're jumping to conclusions simply because there's an investigation and Sanders took the step suggested by virtually everyone when under investigation - to get a lawyer?

    I wish this crowd would apply this same method of determining guilt to Donald Trump.
    Hillary and Benghazi: No evidence. "LOCK HER UP!"
    Sanders and this thing: Unknown evidence. "LOCK HIM UP!"
    Trump and Russia: Unknown evidence. "Innocent! Witch hunt! Libtard democraps!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cybran View Post
    Bold statement from the guy with a Saint Ronnie Raygun shrine in his bedroom.
    That, and let's not forget Skroe's undying support for the Clinton bunch before the election, for months on end ridiculing everyone as a "Berniebro!" or a "Trumpkin!" - until she unexpectedly lost and he made himself scarce for a few weeks after. Even if you didn't support either of them, if you didn't support his choice of Hillary then you were troll bait.

    Now he's invented a new moniker for those who don't knee-jerk jump on the phony Russia hate bandwagon...you're a "Putinista!" This is supposed to mean you want to have Putin's baby (and by extension, Trump's) and love everything they've ever done simply because you know better than to believe the establishment Dem's lies on Russia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caolela View Post
    That, and let's not forget Skroe's undying support for the Clinton bunch before the election, for months on end ridiculing everyone as a "Berniebro!" or a "Trumpkin!" - until she unexpectedly lost and he made himself scarce for a few weeks after. Even if you didn't support either of them, if you didn't support his choice of Hillary then you were troll bait.

    Now he's invented a new moniker for those who don't knee-jerk jump on the phony Russia hate bandwagon...you're a "Putinista!" This is supposed to mean you want to have Putin's baby (and by extension, Trump's) and love everything they've ever done simply because you know better than to believe the establishment Dem's lies on Russia.
    I mean, if you want people to not laugh at your bullshit conspiracy theories, don't summon them. @Skroe

    So what are you peddling this time?
    Quote Originally Posted by Rudol Von Stroheim View Post
    I do not need to play the role of "holier than thou". I'm above that..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripster42 View Post
    I mean, if you want people to not laugh at your bullshit conspiracy theories, don't summon them.
    When you or anyone has proven what I've said are conspiracy "theories", let us know. Otherwise it's just empty name-calling and diversion.

    Everything I said on Skroe above is true. He's attacked people relentlessly since before the election as I pointed out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celista View Post
    The payments part simply could be due to accounting. The article says that the donor had some health conditions. We'll see what happens...instances like these are why it is important to have communication in writing whenever possible.
    For the payment part:

    Luck told VTDigger in 2015 that the $1 million bequest was backed by an agreement signed by the donor and her attorney.
    Accouting errors my ass. They knew they were lying.

    And the donnor had minor health issues thats quite a stretch from that to dying.
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