Except people keep conflating Humans with Alliance. And then you get Horde fanboys whining when people point this out, namely we do so because they keep implying there's some amazing Alliance representation when there isn't.
Most of us Alliance players are as sick of stupid Khadgar as Horde players. And I've constantly said how much I find Malfurion a fucking bore, but he doesn't even count as an Alliance NPC. He's a druid NPC. As well as how much of a travesty it was that Lor'themar wasn't involved in 7.1. However Liadrin was, in her capacity here, acting as the Horde emissary. Much like how Tyrande wasn't in 7.0 but then was in 7.1.
Context actually matters.
Kill Khadgar/Illidan/Malfurion.
Involve Lor'themar, Moira, Mekkatorque, and Baine a lot more. Also where the fuck is Wrathion. Even when I went to visit Blizzard with some other people we couldn't get a good answer to that. Very much seemed like they legitimately just forgot.
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People do the same with the horde, wod for example was very orc centric, but the horde and alliance itself felt more as a footnote and this expansion drives it to new extremes. It really isn't that hard to give each race their place and to let them shine a little even outside their factions, it shouldn't be too hard, but all we get are the same old tropes, with humans firmly in the center stage with a few exceptions here and there.
Blizz should change its narrative, by using more diverse characters. But unfortunately they shove most of their focus on singular races which hurts the story quite a bit. And as you mentioned keep a better track of their story-lines, wrathion not being in legion so far is utterly ridiculous.
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Fun fact, baine actually has new voice lines when you click on him in thunder bluff or wherever you can find him talking about highmountain but he doesn't show up in highmountain or legion really for that matter. They must have been intending to do stuff with him and just scrapped it.
not rly, we need 3 things
1) orc warchief, as should always be, bring Thura saurfang, with a cool storyline like Garrosh back in TBC and we are fucking done
2) bring vol'jin back from the dead like jindo, or at least developer a proper successor for racial leader, cause this is a shame, no alliance races stayed with no racial leaders like this ever
3) find the Baine balls
Bonus: do like @Friendlyimmolation said, make the blood elves badass again, not to be like high elves pussy humans or lord of the rings stereotype
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Saurfang is great, i would love see him as warchief, but people keep talking shit about him, like "he is too old", when this not matter for orcs, so bring new blood, with a strong name like Thura should solve a lot of problems, and this works well( Garrosh work well as character until mop)
Not need be Thura ( i said her because seems like blizzard want more female characters, so this should work) Eitrig have sons, there are others well know orcs who can have sons too, can be one of then ( i rly think blizzard is waiting the thrall's sons to make something about...)
dunno, i liked vol'jin, but a new troll leader like zul'jin would be awesome...2.) Just develop a new troll. Vol'jin sucked anyway.
i dont agree here, he have balls to take control of taurens and kick magta in the ass, but after this, h became boring as fuck3.) They've been missing since the character was created.
You can't take what ya can't see... *rolls d20* You rolled a natural 20* The skill of stealth is successful.
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They've yet to introduce another Forsaken character next to Sylvanas, now also develop a new Troll character?
My bet is on Rokhan just being named chieftain next expansion, similiar to Saurfang.
I expect nothing less of a company that doesn't even change the title of Saurfang or his 11 year old gossip, the only thing in the game that implies he's a faction leader is the fact that he's marked as "Leader" in Orgrimmar.
In my opinion what Horde currently needs is:
Orcs: new young Orc characters dev. like they did with Garrosh build up from the ground or get lesser known Orcs and give them more screen time like Mankrik
Also stop with the Orc leader, the Orcs are not united after SoO (it makes no logical sense when clans killed each other) my idea make a Orcish council till a new Orcish warchief has been build up to claim the title, so best would be to pick a blackrock, dragonmaw, frostwolf and warsong Orc and one from Outland and turn these 5 Orcs into a Orc council that make the choices and build these 5 Orc up with story.
Trolls: Build up wicthdoctor and shadowhunter characters in a possible South sea exp when we visite Zandalar. (maybe even bring Vol'jin kids in the mix)
Troll options: Rokhan (ofc), Gadrin, Vornal or Jin'Zil.
Goblins: Build the Gob Squad up make these the main focus for a few exp packs in Goblin lore so we have some known Goblins.
Atm i wonder if any Goblin had decent build up sofar since Cata.
Tauren: Pull Baine away from the neutral zone, give him a second in command adviser that is more agressive toward enemies (my idea bring Tagar, the Tauren that was 2e behind Cairne he is not seen yet in WoW)
Forsaken + Blood Elfs: Well this is a tricky one since i dont really consider these races Horde, but i guess you can build some Blood Elf and Forsaken mages/warlocks up and make them a new Horde magical order or something in that way.
This is what in my opinion needs to happen, as for leadership from Sylvanas, well i rather had a Orcish council atm that look out for the Horde till somebody caims the title for himself like a real warchief should do instead of having a loa appoint. Then again would i like to see them kill Sylvanas? no that is also not what i want rather have her step down after Legion.
Agree on the Baine front - dude is a cardboard cutout at this stage, Highmountain would have been really great. I don't agree abotu Voljin, though. He really got some fantastic development starting with the troll starting area and Rise of the Zandalari continued in Landfall, Shadows of the Horde novel and Escalation/Siege. In fact, I can't think of a single faction leader other than Thrall and Varian who has had more development in-game in such a short time. He went from an npc who literally sat in Org with no story, to becoming one of the best fleshed-out characters on the Horde side. And there is no way his story is over - he's bound up in the loa of death, I mean, come on.
And if you're unsatisfied that Forsaken and Elves getting the spotlight, then blame it on the people who whined about orcs the last two xpacs. I for one think is refreshing to focus on the other races of the Horde, and wish they would offer the same courtesy to the dwarves and gnomes every once in a while.