The boy who cried wolf

[the game]

So I found this scene in DS9 interesting. The two different interpretations of the story "the boy who cried wolf." Which interpretation do you think is correct?

[Deleted]

some capitalist thought "noobs will like this" and they did. This is what you zombies are about. They are easily summon able.

[Xenryusho]

The first one. If he lied about bears attacking, they still wouldn't believe him with the wolf.

[Zethras]

To clarify, you're asking if either:

1) If you lie all the time, nobody will believe you, even when you're telling the truth.
or
2) Never tell the same lie twice.

is correct?

Well, lying all the time is morally questionable, and yes, nobody will believe you if you lie all the time.

Lying all the time, but "never telling the same lie twice" i.e never getting caught is also highly morally questionable.

I would say that the first is more correct, but the second is not incorrect, speaking without moral bias.

On a side note, you should definitely have tagged @Elim Garak

[Allybeboba]

I like the Chicken Little story better.

[Mihalik]

some capitalist thought "noobs will like this" and they did. This is what you zombies are about. They are easily summon able.

What are you even on about?

[Saucexorzski]

DS9 is best startrek

[Mihalik]

So I found this scene in DS9 interesting. The two different interpretations of the story "the boy who cried wolf." Which interpretation do you think is correct?

Both interpretations are correct within their subjective frames of reference of the two characters. The question isn't which interpretation is correct, but it is rather meant to highlight that morality is subjective.

[Venant]

So I found this scene in DS9 interesting. The two different interpretations of the story "the boy who cried wolf." Which interpretation do you think is correct?

It does make sense that the first time you tell a lie it is most effective, smart liars will continuously modify their lies in order to maintain effectiveness. The major downside to this is that eventually you diverge too far from reality.

Perhaps the best liars would be those who can cloak their lies in truth.

[the game]

Perhaps the best liars would be those who can cloak their lies in truth.

Garak was pretty good at that.

[Sunseeker]

Well, lying all the time is morally questionable, and yes, nobody will believe you if you lie all the time.

Nobody will believe you if you get caught lying. Obviously the lie was successful the first time. The kid just overplayed his hand.

[Deleted]

What are you even on about?

You do very well. Just think, believe and do what you are currently doing, you're a Zombie.

[Mihalik]

You do very well. Just think, believe and do what you are currently doing, you're a Zombie.

Have you ever attempted the art of constructing coherent sentences, contextualized in an understandable framework that makes sense to people who aren't living in your edgy mind?

[Louisa Bannon]

This is basically bullshit morality.

Not lying to people that are close to you is fairly reasonable, but being a skilled liar with others is an incredibly important social skill.

[Thoughtful Trolli]

Both interpretations are correct within their subjective frames of reference of the two characters. The question isn't which interpretation is correct, but it is rather meant to highlight that morality is subjective.

But couldn't we decide, morally, that morality isn't subjective? This is literally what's happening today isn't it? We can't be sure what's right or wrong, so we might as well decide what's right and be sure about it, making my morality objective because I subjectively choose to make it objective. It's in infinite flux.

This is basically bullshit morality.

Not lying to people that are close to you is fairly reasonable, but being a skilled liar with others is an incredibly important social skill.

Yah, it's like we have to teach everyone to be a liar, show them the actual reality, but we're only going to do that if it's profitable for us, and it isn't. The main factor right now is hypnotized slaves going out of control, they don't even know they're hypnotized, that half their brain belongs to another ego, can do things they don't even see, and fill the memory gaps with online bullshit.

Those 2 hours you spent at Website B, you were really programming for a secret intelligence agency. You're not even on mmochampion, you're sending written messages to a counselor who's trained to kill you if you get too far off your hook.

some capitalist thought "noobs will like this" and they did. This is what you zombies are about. They are easily summon able.

exactly. some fucking jesus started plaguing the internets with a side operation of hypnotism, he's gonna be found out and exterminated, if he wasn't found already, and we can all go back to eating bowls of "ice cream" and "cheeseburgers"

so much damage, like xenryusho's signature, to repair... /sigh

[Zylos]

This is basically bullshit morality.

Not lying to people that are close to you is fairly reasonable, but being a skilled liar with others is an incredibly important social skill.

The thing is people who lie all the time often don't realize that people see through their BS because no one calls them on it. They THINK their lies are working. This is part of the lesson being taught.