"standard" ilvl for M+15?

[Hey There Guys its Metro]

If it's a no voip pug then 920 or higher for sure. Should be easy now, but ilvl matters so little. I've been taking the best battle rez dps I can find for my push to 15.

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I get declined for shit like +7 on my 910 hpal alt on a regular basis... I guess we have a shitty rep dating from overflowing days or smth ?

yeah on overflowing it was impossible to get a grp as holy paladin - even though it wasnt that bad. People being people I guess.

[Hey There Guys its Metro]

I get declined for shit like +7 on my 910 hpal alt on a regular basis... I guess we have a shitty rep dating from overflowing days or smth ?

Do you know how to do dps As holy? If not I don't blame them. Invited a 928 paladin yesterday and he did less than 35k on each boss.

[ONCHEhap]

I usually ask 895 for people I know,915 for pugs for a +15

[Zeek Daniels]

Since tos opened im not even looking at sub 910 tbh. (atleast for high keys)

Most people will be checking your wowprogress for your exp though, so if you have a non existent m+ score for the last patches you should be prepared to be declined alot until you do. The fact that youre a mage and provide timewarp works in your favour though.

Secondly, arcane mage isnt exactly a common spec for m+ ( i dont think i have seen a single one that wasnt being boosted )

You might want to get a fire offspec for m+.

Hey I play arcane and do insane aoe and my single target aint to bad.

[Ailylia]

wowprogress m+ score is the new ilevel. I am a 915 holy Paladin with 10/10 NH mythic and 9/9 ToS heroic and I get declined a lot. Maybe its a Paladin thing, maybe its my low m+ score. Either way, I´m having an easier time finding groups with my 905 blood DK...

A lot of teams will hold out for an rdruid as their pug healer because they have brez. As a holy priest this annoys me too.

[dacoolist]

912-924 currently sir.. because equipped = take away 5, and if they are playing an alt spec: you are screwed. You need every player to be at their best, you want everyone playing as hard as possible to get that 15, and even though this weeks not bad in terms of tyrannical, you still want core deeps to really bring the pain. AOE is a big one this week, with a crew that can snipe those greens

[TripleZero]

Hey I play arcane and do insane aoe and my single target aint to bad.

Never said arcane is bad, im sure you can perform well with it. It's just not common.

[Glacorz]

I ran a key up to 15 last week and sorry to say theres not a chance you would of gotten in and thats nothing to do with you. When I posted my 14 or 15 keys in less than 60 seconds I had over 40 applicants and half of them were 920+ the sheer volume of mythic raiders wanting to get there weekly done means dps stand very little chance of invites. I get declined from most groups on a 924 shadowpriest. On the flipside it was very fun to run your own key and groups were easy to make. Was even easy getting tanks and healers never took longer than a minute to form a full group of 915+ players

[Emerald Archer]

Because "muh 5%". Also god forbid your class doesn't look good on the 75th percentile overall statistics for the current raid. Not one of the classes in the top 3? Get memed.

MM was like mid pack in NH, same with BM, but they were 2 of the most desired specs for m+.

Nice logic bruh.

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Keymaster - RECENT NOT OLD ACHIEVEMENT and 905+ ilvl

+15 isn't really that hard but then if you're running non desirable dungeons then it's your fault it's harder

[apelsinjuice]

920 for pugs

[kazas]

I only run 15s with guildies. I'll build my keys with pugs but anything 13+ ill save

The lowest ilvl we have is 917

[Korban]

Tried to get into a few +15 group today as a healer.

The listed requirement was ilvl 920.

And even then I get declined.

gg

(I'm a 10/10M , 8/9HC raider, AP 58)

[Deleted]

920 for anything 12+ from my exp.

[Ashnazg]

I pushed my stone from 11 to 15 today, listed the group at 920+ every time (I am 923) and was flooded with DPS applicants. I guess the average ilvl among the pushing crowd is now high enough where even 920 yields a healthy pool of applicants.

[Ealyssa]

I get declined for shit like +7 on my 910 hpal alt on a regular basis... I guess we have a shitty rep dating from overflowing days or smth ?

TBH most holy player are horrible in high MM+ Even the one who can manage themselves in a raid.

Must MM+ pushes need a LOT of AoE healing. Which most random Hpals just can't handle alone. Obviously some can, but in my experience (pushing 15-19 every weeks on 3 tanks. ~30% being with a PUG healer) the chance of this healer you don't know being shit is really far greater with a Hpal than your random druid.

That said the spec itself isn't a problem. I have a Hpal friend who heal just fine.

[Nephcyte]

I generally get people 910+ for my 10+ dungeons and higher. And generally get 915-925 dpeses since there are plenty of those to choose from.

For a 15 key id get 920-925 dps since there will be plenty people with that ilvl after 2 leg upgrades conisdered u raided in NH and did ToS clear.

[Toastiekins]

MM was like mid pack in NH, same with BM, but they were 2 of the most desired specs for m+.

Nice logic bruh.

If someone is asking about pugging m+, I'm just relaying the average pug leader's mindset. This is not how I operate.

[chronia]

Keymaster - RECENT NOT OLD ACHIEVEMENT and 905+ ilvl

+15 isn't really that hard but then if you're running non desirable dungeons then it's your fault it's harder

Why would you want a recent achievement over a old one. I would say the older the better.

What kind of ilvl i guess also depends on the goal, if the goal is running the 15 for weekly chest you can go alot lower and less optimised ep on fortified weeks than if the goal is to push a +2 / +3 upgrade to push high key's for fun or high M+ score.