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    Quote Originally Posted by pateuvasiliu View Post
    Am I somehow wrong?

    " Maximum results with minimum investment '' applies in a lot of fields. This guy did just that.



    If 'Murica cares so much about its people as to villify this guy why don't they pay for it? If they can spend trillions on invading the Middle East you'd think they can spend some money to cure their ailing.

    Let's be honest, it's easy to blame the guy but when you're called to do the right thing that you suggest he should've done, you shut up real quick.

    It's just like with abortions, the bible heads will say it should be illegal but when the mother can't afford to raise the kid and needs money they all disappear.
    Actually they still have words to say at that point. No sex until marriage (The completely ineffective abstinence sex ed in the US), so all those evil single mothers should have kept their legs shut ("Aspirin between the knees" was a comment made about Ye Olde Timey birth control) should have waited until they married a Wholesome Heterosexual Individual That Exemplifies Masculinity And Normalcy to have children.
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    Quit using other posters as levels of crazy. That is not ok


    If you look, you can see the straw man walking a red herring up a slippery slope coming to join this conversation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopymonster View Post
    Actually they still have words to say at that point. No sex until marriage (The completely ineffective abstinence sex ed in the US), so all those evil single mothers should have kept their legs shut ("Aspirin between the knees" was a comment made about Ye Olde Timey birth control) should have waited until they married a Wholesome Heterosexual Individual That Exemplifies Masculinity And Normalcy to have children.
    I mean, literally talking, that WOULD solve the issue of the mother not having money or a father near her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Jensen View Post
    Life saving treatment should not be in the hands of capitalists. Healthcare should not be a for profit industry.
    But Adam, you are finding issue with Glorious Capitalist Society....Comrade?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pateuvasiliu View Post
    Definitely, but that's how Capitalism works. Everyone does it to some extend. Some boss will fire an employee over another that works less but is his personal friend.

    Universities expel students accused of X things without said things being proven to avoid the bad rep.

    It's just how the world works.
    So.... you'r saying capitalism is wrong and breeds assholes? Well, I won't deny I agree with you on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussiedude View Post
    Forget Trump, Hitler or Jeffrey Dahmer.

    The Most hated man in America according to the Media is this young fella named Martin Shkreli

    Do not know why he is the really hated.. Other than than he defrauded a few people . Which i suppose is bad.
    But not as bad as mass murderer Jeffery Dahmer (in my opinion anyway).

    Any Americans fill us in why this guy is really hated ?

    One young woman called him "an evil man," another said he looked like a "snake" and a third said she knew he'd been
    labelled "the most hated man in America."


    http://www.smh.com.au/business/world...28-gx0543.html

    Life-saving AIDS drug sells for $13 a pill.

    Shkreli buys the company and jacks up the price several thousand percent to gouge people with no option.

    Draw your own conclusion on why he's hated. Fuck that guy, give him AIDS, and then deny him access to his own pills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pateuvasiliu View Post
    Definitely, but that's how Capitalism works. Everyone does it to some extend. Some boss will fire an employee over another that works less but is his personal friend.

    Universities expel students accused of X things without said things being proven to avoid the bad rep.

    It's just how the world works.
    Just because it's how the world works doesn't mean we should accept it.
    Putin khuliyo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Jensen View Post
    Just because it's how the world works doesn't mean we should accept it.
    Then apply this to all businesses not just medicine.

    Medicine IS a business, like it or not. Hospitals are businesses. And doctors refuse to treat people who can't pay for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pateuvasiliu View Post
    Then apply this to all businesses not just medicine.

    Medicine IS a business, like it or not. Hospitals are businesses. And doctors refuse to treat people who can't pay for it.
    What makes you think he does not feel like this about all business?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pateuvasiliu View Post
    Then apply this to all businesses not just medicine.

    Medicine IS a business, like it or not. Hospitals are businesses. And doctors refuse to treat people who can't pay for it.
    Considering health related things have a captive audience, since people dont choose to get sick nor can choose to price shop in an emergency and meds have enough variation in side effects to make many people only have 1 choice, it really shouldn't be.

    Also, in an emergency situation doctors don't really have a choice. A patient must be stabilized regardless of ability to pay. Beyond that its their choice, but people are legally mandated to have emergency treatment to save their immediate life (such as a near fatal car accident).

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    Poster boy for how capitalism can go wrong. Of course though even the biggest supporters of Glorious Free Market™ think he's a douchebag. :thinking:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fazzel View Post
    Thats a really onesided statement.
    - He increased to price of an old pill with many sideeffects to support research on better pills with less sideeffects
    - Every person who relied on the pill was taken care of. Only insurences had to pay more.
    1) Unless the research was going on in his Swiss bank account, you are full of shit.
    2) You dont understand how insurance works do you? You actually think the insurance companies said "oh well, guess we'll just lose hundreds of millions in profits this year"

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    Wasn't he also the guy who won the bid for the wu tang clan album?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fazzel View Post
    Thats a really onesided statement.
    - He increased to price of an old pill with many sideeffects to support research on better pills with less sideeffects
    - Every person who relied on the pill was taken care of. Only insurences had to pay more.
    Bull. Fucking. Shit.

    He jacked prices on an only-realistic-option pill to profiteer from people's fear of death.

    Where do you think higher drug costs go? I'll give you a hint: The insurance companies sure as fuck don't absorb them.

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    Skeletal jazz wizards?
    Don't exclude the witches too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fazzel View Post
    Thats a really onesided statement.
    - He increased to price of an old pill with many sideeffects to support research on better pills with less sideeffects
    - Every person who relied on the pill was taken care of. Only insurences had to pay more.
    Pure bullshit. Nothing more then a piss poor excuse the guy gave with nothing to support it.
    "Privilege is invisible to those who have it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heladys View Post
    Bull. Fucking. Shit.

    He jacked prices on an only-realistic-option pill to profiteer from people's fear of death.

    Where do you think higher drug costs go? I'll give you a hint: The insurance companies sure as fuck don't absorb them.
    Whats wrong with these drugs?

    Sulfadiazine
    Sulfamethoxazole/trimethoprim
    Pentamidine

    And contrary to your bogus claims he had actually reduced the possible copay amount for people down to 1 dollar if they couldn't afford it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caralhoPT View Post
    I'd wager Heather Bresch is equally as hated for similar reasons. She's such a c-word... (not saying it because of the many sjw's on here)
    I'll just quote Warren Ellis on the matter.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Heladys View Post
    Life-saving AIDS drug sells for $13 a pill.

    Shkreli buys the company and jacks up the price several thousand percent to gouge people with no option.

    Draw your own conclusion on why he's hated. Fuck that guy, give him AIDS, and then deny him access to his own pills.
    Except, that isn't the way it works.

    The people don't buy there own pills, atleast not pills like those, the insurance companies do, the only ones being screwed over were the insurance companies, who deserve to be screwed over as much as possible, they are more responsible than anything else in America for the fucked up state of the healthcare system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helden View Post
    Except, that isn't the way it works.

    The people don't buy there own pills, atleast not pills like those, the insurance companies do, the only ones being screwed over were the insurance companies, who deserve to be screwed over as much as possible, they are more responsible than anything else in America for the fucked up state of the healthcare system.
    Untill you realize premiums will go up, they are not hurt by this at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deuse View Post
    Americans have to pay for their own healthcare. This doucheclown bought an HIV medication and changed the cost of one pill from $13 to $700 each, meaning almost no one could afford the medication. He will rot in hell.
    Says a person who knows nothing about Martin, knows nothing about the healthcare industry, or anything about the process of obtaining said medication.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hakujinbakasama View Post
    Says a person who knows nothing about Martin, knows nothing about the healthcare industry, or anything about the process of obtaining said medication.
    So humour us, how are you going to defend this scumbag?

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