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  1. #121
    Congratulations, people like Oxymoronic who are told that ''kummunist healthkare'' (IE, the stuff every country in the entire world have) who keep droning the same lines about how US hospitals are great [I]for people who have money/I]

    Are you aware that a 3 million dollars ''cure'' for rich foreigners is a very good deal for the said foreigners (maybe 1% of the 1%) who can afford it and a very bad deal for everyone else ? Do you REALLY think that insurance companies who are Scrooge with triple bypasses would pay for a 3 million dollar cure ?

    But I'm sure that having hospitals treating Saudi princes but not your own children is a good idea.

  2. #122
    he will NEVER have sight, hearing, speech, actual cognitive thought, ability to move his limbs, etc. even if it works at the BEST level the hospital can predict...
    Because of this I just can't understand how anyone would be okay with prolonging the life of this kid..

    He is braindead, can't move or live without machines. He will never be able to function to any extend.
    If he is still lucid, he would be in constant pain, both physically and mentally..

    Keeping this kid alive is just plain torture..
    Anyone advocating for keeping this torture going, has some pretty fucked up morals.
    "Everything always changes. The best plan lasts until the first arrow leaves the bow." - Matrim Cauthon

  3. #123
    truth is europe doesnt want to be exposed. they know USA can save this child. they know our medicine at that level is way more advanced and they are trying to save face. its sad a person has to die for their own selfish reasons. horrible horrible people.


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  4. #124
    Quote Originally Posted by oxymoronic View Post
    truth is europe doesnt want to be exposed. they know USA can save this child. they know our medicine at that level is way more advanced and they are trying to save face. its sad a person has to die for their own selfish reasons. horrible horrible people.
    Yes, yes, yes. That's why a f... delivery cost 50% more in the USA than in Canada. Because if your medical procedures are not overpriced, they are not ''realz''.

    But I suppose that if someone on YouTube snap their fingers and tells you that ''KUMMUNIST HEALTHKARE SUKKS TOP KEK'' this is a ''PROOF''.
    Last edited by sarahtasher; 2017-06-29 at 06:44 PM.

  5. #125
    Quote Originally Posted by lucred View Post
    But even the hospital that was going to provide the procedure said it would not improve the child's health, just (possibly) prevent it from getting worse...

    This means he will NEVER have sight, hearing, speech, actual cognitive thought, ability to move his limbs, etc. even if it works at the BEST level the hospital can predict...
    and from this one child's life we can learn a lot. obviously you dont solve problems, if you did you know most of the time its baby steps, you dont solve it all at once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarahtasher View Post
    Yes, yes, yes. That's why a f... delivery cost 50% more in the USA than in Canada. Bekauze we urez goodz
    canada cant talk till it can defend itself and stop piggy backing off big brother

    oh wait its sarah, my bad for even replying to a person like you.

  6. #126
    Quote Originally Posted by oxymoronic View Post
    truth is europe doesnt want to be exposed. they know USA can save this child. they know our medicine at that level is way more advanced and they are trying to save face. its sad a person has to die for their own selfish reasons. horrible horrible people.
    Congratulations, you made it to page 8 without noticing that the US treatment can't save the child. Because there is no cure, and that's not what the treatment is for.
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    There are no 2 species that are 100% identical.
    Quote Originally Posted by Redditor
    can you leftist twits just fucking admit that quantum mechanics has fuck all to do with thermodynamics, that shit is just a pose?

  7. #127
    Quote Originally Posted by oxymoronic View Post
    truth is europe doesnt want to be exposed. they know USA can save this child. they know our medicine at that level is way more advanced and they are trying to save face. its sad a person has to die for their own selfish reasons. horrible horrible people.
    Now you're talking like donald trump
    Read this and try to comprehend basic english: There is no cure. No treatment to reverse the damage done. The kid will sadly die 100% sure. But when? With any treatment (there isn't any that can heal him) he may last an extra month... or 2, or even if we stretch it a year, in constant pain, unable to do anything.
    Want to do that? Congratulations, now you're a horrible human being!
    Forgive my english, as i'm not a native speaker



  8. #128
    This whole thing strikes me as the same brand of stupidity as people who waste hospital resources trying to keep anencephalic babies alive.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zantos View Post
    There are no 2 species that are 100% identical.
    Quote Originally Posted by Redditor
    can you leftist twits just fucking admit that quantum mechanics has fuck all to do with thermodynamics, that shit is just a pose?

  9. #129
    Quote Originally Posted by Garnier Fructis View Post
    This whole thing strikes me as the same brand of stupidity as people who waste hospital resources trying to keep anencephalic babies alive.
    Or the people who keep brain dead people conected for weeks, hoping that they will somehow resurrect
    Forgive my english, as i'm not a native speaker



  10. #130
    Quote Originally Posted by oxymoronic View Post
    and from this one child's life we can learn a lot. obviously you dont solve problems, if you did you know most of the time its baby steps, you dont solve it all at once.
    So in one post you've went from "The US can save this child" to "No we can't, but we can learn some cool stuff even if he's in agony". Be consistent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinra1 View Post
    Euthanasia is wrong. The parents should get to decide how long their child remains on life support. And if the child is supposedly brain dead how is it that he is feeling pain from being kept alive? The specialist doesn't know what he's talking about. The church needs to get involved.
    Glad I voted Brexit.
    Ahhh, I'm so glad your Christian fundamentalist views aren't shared by the rest of the world.
    There are no worse scum in this world than fascists, rebels and political hypocrites.
    Donald Trump is only like Hitler because of the fact he's losing this war on all fronts.
    Apparently condemning a fascist ideology is the same as being fascist. And who the fuck are you to say I can't be fascist against fascist ideologies?
    If merit was the only dividing factor in the human race, then everyone on Earth would be pretty damn equal.

  12. #132
    Quote Originally Posted by oxymoronic View Post
    and from this one child's life we can learn a lot. obviously you dont solve problems, if you did you know most of the time its baby steps, you dont solve it all at once.

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    canada cant talk till it can defend itself and stop piggy backing off big brother

    oh wait its sarah, my bad for even replying to a person like you.
    Yeah, yeah, I know, foreign countries just exist to be threatened to be bombed/nuked/invaded if they don't do EXACTLY what the Americans want. For instance, it's utterly unfathomable for the usual suspects to have normal commercial relations with other countries-if Canada exports stuff to the USA, they are stealing jobs and should be shot. If Canada does not want to buy American stuff, they are stealing jobs and should be shot. If Canada want to sell stuff to other countries, they should also be shot.

    Short of that, I'm sure you are proud that your hospitals treat in priority rich foreigners inside of your own people. Because it does not cross the mind of the usual suspects that an hospital selling snake oil cures to 3 million dollar apiece will not take american children with more ordinary diseases. Or that catering to whiny foreign patients raise the prices for everyone else.
    Last edited by sarahtasher; 2017-06-29 at 06:54 PM.

  13. #133
    Quote Originally Posted by tikcol View Post
    Reasons - Specialists at Great Ormond Street Hospital believe Charlie has no chance of survival.
    Yeh and, there may be other doctor who think he has a chance, to say nothing of information gleaned from working on the child that may aid in understanding the problem. This is fucking stupid. ITs their kid, if they want to come to the US to try and sae him they very much should be able too.

    I mean is prolonged suffering is their reasoning, why not just take him out back and put him down now? Surely there is some measure of suffering now.
    READ and be less Ignorant.

  14. #134
    Quote Originally Posted by tikcol View Post
    Reasons - Specialists at Great Ormond Street Hospital believe Charlie has no chance of survival.
    Only the parents should have the right to determine whether to continue trying to save their son. "Specialists" should have no say in such matters.

  15. #135
    Quote Originally Posted by Gorgodeus View Post
    Only the parents should have the right to determine whether to continue trying to save their son. "Specialists" should have no say in such matters.
    Yes, who need fancy LIBURAL diplomas with big words when YouTube university tell them what to think.

  16. #136
    Quote Originally Posted by sarahtasher View Post
    Yes, who need fancy LIBURAL diplomas with big words when YouTube university tell them what to think.
    The matter has nothing to do with politics, so take your memes elsewhere.

  17. #137
    Quote Originally Posted by Gorgodeus View Post
    The matter has nothing to do with politics, so take your memes elsewhere.
    It has. Mostly in the groups who value reasoning and te groups who dont value it.
    Forgive my english, as i'm not a native speaker



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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorgodeus View Post
    Only the parents should have the right to determine whether to continue trying to save their son. "Specialists" should have no say in such matters.
    Doing this would be seen as abuse, so yes, they do.

  19. #139
    BTW, yes, in Canada and Europe, people have the silly notion that taking your kid of chemotherapy to a Jesus camp to pray the cancer away (at usually a much higher cost than chemo) should be illegal. Same for snake oil cures that usually don't work . I guess that's ''fascist'' too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IIamaKing View Post
    I mean is prolonged suffering is their reasoning, why not just take him out back and put him down now? Surely there is some measure of suffering now.
    The doctors wanted to take him off life support for exactly that reason. They've been prevented thus far because of the court appeals.


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