Canada to apologize, pay former gitmo prisoner omar khadr

[Jotaux]

Glad he got the money. The US, Canada, and anyone else using Guantanamo Bay are guilty of war crimes. Unfortunately, there's no one to hold them accountable for their actions.

I agree completely. I think everyone involved in Guantanamo should be charged with war crimes no matter their station. Its absolutely disgusting that basic human rights were ignored to garner confessions that are not even reliable.

[Maybach]

We should do to those as they would do to us

In this case Al Qaeda would seek to kill any of us they could

We should do the same to them

[Firatha]

I believe this is the right answer.

'I got to kill many infidels and now I'm rich, Allah be praised!'

So its ok to kill brainwashed 15 year old kids who admit guilt under torture?

[Wyrt]

Well that's Canada for you. Letting known terrorists walk away with a big bag of money.

And he wouldn't be walking away with a bag of money if Canada had treated him as a human being. Ignoring rights has consequences, this is one of them. This is one of the major reasons Guantanamo Bay was and is a horrible idea and should have been shut down.

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why they pay someone money for being a terrorist?

[Freighter]

So its ok to kill brainwashed 15 year old kids who admit guilt under torture?

Just so you know, brainwashing isn't actually a thing that works. It's sci-fi.

[Wyrt]

why they pay someone money for being a terrorist?

They gave him money for violating his human rights.

[JohnBrown1917]

Lately I see a lot of bad news coming from Canada... What's going on there? Tennis also recently wrote how they filter out immigrants by only taking the ones with highest education etc. Feel very disappointed lately by Canada.

Canada actually admitting it was wrong hardly sound like a bad thing.

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Just so you know, brainwashing isn't actually a thing that works. It's sci-fi.

Nah, it can, and has, worked.

[Nitros14]

Torturing child soldiers for confessions. Nice.

Try to look past your biases for just a moment and put yourself in the guy's shoes Americans.

[Firatha]

Just so you know, brainwashing isn't actually a thing that works. It's sci-fi.

It works just fine especially on a child I don't know what world your living in.

[Freighter]

Maybe not on an adult but we are talking about a child here.

It's sci-fi. It's not a thing that works. It doesn't matter if it's an adult or child, it does not work.

[Crissi]

It's sci-fi. It's not a thing that works. It doesn't matter if it's an adult or child, it does not work.

a young child who adores their parent completely will believe anything they say. Do that long enough (im tlaking starting before age 7 and keep going til teens), and break their will, and you've gotten a loyal soldier who will not think for themselves, due to being brought it up as the only thing they've ever known and being taught it was right by people they respect due to position of power.

This is generaly kept in chekc by environments that bring in other views, but if your environment doesnt allow it (like these regions often do), then you wont have anything to challenge it.

[Firatha]

It's sci-fi. It's not a thing that works. It doesn't matter if it's an adult or child, it does not work.

There is nothing scifi about metal conditioning see Crissi's post or do you think under 15 year old child soldiers kill because they know they want too? mental conditioning aka brainwashing is how and why child soldiers work without question or care.

[Freighter]

There is nothing scifi about metal conditioning see Crissi's post.

Raising your kid in a specific manner is not brainwashing though. Brainwashing is a concept that is about is forcing someone to adopt radically different beliefs than they originally had, not applicable in child rearing as you can raise them to have a specific belief without forcing them.

[Dr Assbandit]

Just so you know, brainwashing isn't actually a thing that works. It's sci-fi.

It is absolutely a thing. Not in the way of mind-control or sci-if, but it involves psychology and damaging it till the person obeys you unquestioningly. That is the most brutal way to go about it but there are easier methods manipulative people routinely use to slowly chip away at a person's psyche.

[Crissi]

Raising your kid in a specific manner is not brainwashing though.

It absolutely can be, especially if you start introducing pressure to conform and threats on if you do not conform.

[Freighter]

It is absolutely a thing. Not in the way of mind-control or sci-if, but it involves psychology and damaging it till the person obeys you unquestioningly.

Brainwashing is a concept that is about is forcing someone to adopt radically different beliefs than they originally had, not applicable in child rearing as you can raise them to have a specific belief without forcing them and kids do not really have any established beliefs.

You can't really brainwash someone who has no beliefs to start with, like kids.

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It absolutely can be, especially if you start introducing pressure to conform and threats on if you do not conform.

Then all child rearing is brainwashing according to you. Every parent uses some sort of pressure and/or threats to get their kid to obey when they do not conform.

[Crissi]

Brainwashing is a concept that is about is forcing someone to adopt radically different beliefs than they originally had, not applicable in child rearing as you can raise them to have a specific belief without forcing them and kids do not really have any established beliefs.

Which still happens in regards to cults, like Jonestown.

You not believing its a thing doesnt mean its not a thing.

[Dr Assbandit]

Brainwashing is a concept that is about is forcing someone to adopt radically different beliefs than they originally had, not applicable in child rearing as you can raise them to have a specific belief without forcing them and kids do not really have any established beliefs.

Hence you have Islamic or other extremists who went from being secular and holding degrees in higher education, become terrorists.

[Freighter]

Which still happens in regards to cults, like Jonestown.

You not believing its a thing doesnt mean its not a thing.

There is absolutely no scientific support for it.