Antifa group declared a "Domestic Terrorist" group by New Jersey Homeland Security

[Zeek Daniels]

Antifa doesn't bomb government buildings, shoot up Mosques, Jewish Synagogues, Sikh temples or Churches, nor do they form militias and threaten federal agents tasked to execute a court order. Just because they slapped some fascists once or twice or confront Trump supporters they don't qualify as a "terrorists organization".

No they just assault people who disagree with them, start riots, throw flash bangs, rocks, steal your property and burn it, shut down free speech, the list goes on.

[Nerdgasm]

I really dislike antifa. Where I live they turned from a bunch of punks fighting neo-nazis gangs to a group that uses violence against anything not aligned to the left establishment.

They turned into a political tool.

[JohnBrown1917]

Again, in what regard? What has the white-middle class done to you guys? Sometimes, the middle class aren't even that rich. That's what makes them Middle-class.

Huh?

What? Are like 1% of the White population racist against some kind of race, or something? Cause, more than 80% of us aren't that racist. Maybe pot-heads are, but those are just red necks most of the time.

huh?

Like, am I racist for being a white middle-class man? No! Infact, I respect the other races. I don't actually race at all. I just see if one's either legal, or Not legal, and if they're good, or bad. If someone is lazy at my job, I will report em. It someone isn't lazy, then I don't report em. If someone's violently protesting, then I report them. If they aren't, then better hope that they don't do some crazy shit, otherwise i'm not reporting em.

huh?

Most of the middle-class white guys aren't racist. Has that fact not been clear yet for ya? What's next, gonna say that Abe lincoln's racist, also?

huh?

[Mihalik]

Yet they still beat up people, bomb other buildings, and threaten to kill/torture white people if they ever say hi. Some of them even threaten to kill the president...

:/ So, they might not be just as bad, but they're still a fucking problem.

When did they bomb anything? Common gimme a link for an Antifa bombing. Antifa is not a racial organization. Most likely most Antifa members are white themselves. Antifa has its origins in Germany. Nor have they ever tortured anyone. Beat up? Yeah sure. But if you are attending some white supremacist rally like those organized by Richard Spencer I pretty much think you deserve a baseball bat to the face.

Also who cares some of them threatened Trump? Fuck sake Right wingers were using Obama pictures for target practice and right wing media was openly calling for his murder for 8 years straight.

If one of the assassination threats are serious then sure arrest the person who made it and prosecute him to the fullest extent of the law. But let's not pretend Antifa is some sort of threat that needs to be "defeated". Hell if the state comes down on them, then their entire point is 100% proven and the US has become a full fledged fascist state.

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No they just assault people who disagree with them, start riots, throw flash bangs, rocks, steal your property and burn it, shut down free speech, the list goes on.

I 100% support all that as long as it is targeted at assholes like Richard Spencer and his ilk.

I said it like 5 times before. If you are white supremacist (their main targets) you deserve to get the shit kicked out of you.

[dope_danny]

So, if I am understanding this Antifa correctly, they are all about becoming evil to fight evil...

Sounds like another shitty B-rated Hollywood movie.

Fucking morons.

Welcome to the age of binary tribalism through the millenial douchebag lens. Where everything is coke or pepsi and if you arent with me you are a monster that deserves lynching because those are #LITERALLY the only possible options according to people nowadays.

People are fucking crazy and they all think they are the good guys.

[Mihalik]

So, if I am understanding this Antifa correctly, they are all about becoming evil to fight evil...

Sounds like another shitty B-rated Hollywood movie.

Fucking morons.

Well the US has spent decades defunding agencies and departments tasked with dealing with Right wing terrorism and extremist views. Alt-righters are literally in the US executive now. If there ever was a time to confront this shit, now is the time.

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I really dislike antifa. Where I live they turned from a bunch of punks fighting neo-nazis gangs to a group that uses violence against anything not aligned to the left establishment.

They turned into a political tool.

Good. Neo-nazis literally made it into the US government, good to know that there is a large political pushback.

[CrittenMitten]

Nazi group/white supremacist groups will finally be able to promote their agenda without the oppressive antifa terrorists.

[TheFirstOnes]

When did they bomb anything? Common gimme a link for an Antifa bombing. Antifa is not a racial organization. Most likely most Antifa members are white themselves. Antifa has its origins in Germany. Nor have they ever tortured anyone. Beat up? Yeah sure. But if you are attending some white supremacist rally like those organized by Richard Spencer I pretty much think you deserve a baseball bat to the face.

Also who cares some of them threatened Trump? Fuck sake Right wingers were using Obama pictures for target practice and right wing media was openly calling for his murder for 8 years straight.

If one of the assassination threats are serious then sure arrest the person who made it and prosecute him to the fullest extent of the law. But let's not pretend Antifa is some sort of threat that needs to be "defeated". Hell if the state comes down on them, then their entire point is 100% proven and the US has become a full fledged fascist state.

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I 100% support all that as long as it is targeted at assholes like Richard Spencer and his ilk.

1. First off, this is my answer for the bombs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2aOI6qkTug

Cause, let's forget that said BS happened.

Second, who says I was right-winged? I'm actually a former Liberal. Left it all, after the whole Obama/Hillary BS! Also, I know about the Obama threats, but they weren't THAT big, last time I recalled. Infact, the threats only lasted for about a Month or so, until they all died down. However, here, it's still happening, and it's coming to the point as to where it's getting bad.

Also, the US isn't "Facist", and it'll NEVER become that. The Senate, The House of Representatives, And the entirety of the Judicial Branch are the 3 things that block facism from ever occuring.

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So..you have no counter argument? Good.

[Stop Pretending]

Yes, remind me how many churches they've blown up again? How many planned parenthoods have they shot up. How many people have been killed by them because of skin color?

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Nice attempt though.

[Taso]

Actually the definition of terrorist is one who uses acts of force and shows of violence for a political agenda. You could say the United States of America and Republicans have been terrorists for decades with that logic.

How many decades have republicans been terrorist? Twenty years or how about never. The kkk was created by distgruntled southern Democrats who were angry that the union busted them. Nathen Bedford Forester really designed it as a old time gathering for remembering antebellum south. However at a time of entense embitterment they became convinced that they needed to scare the black people who rightfully deserved the freedom they got. Which is why they dressed up in white sheets and started a crusade against black people. This was the first generation then the second which our history really focuses on was the one in which they expanded to terrorizing Catholics, Jews and anyone who did not share their views. Now I think their on the third generation which has declined by huge amounts because of modernity in the south.
Oh let's not forget the 1960s and Maoist supporters within the democrat party who were advocating for violence and bill ayers weathermen underground movement who bombed people. Surely they weren't terrorist were they eh?
As for the fascist, republicans hate those people and fascism itself is a third position i.e. a rejection of Marxist class struggle, liberalism and capitalism. Secondly the idea of state lead control is against republican ideals. State rights is an iffy answer the south was way more controlling then the north was due to the 3/5 compromise. Effectively any state with slaves had more delegates then the north which had few to none. The result a congress more in favor of slavery then freedom and liberty.
Other right wing terrorist groups are people who hate republicans.
Remember the 2016 election? Guess how big of a diversity the Republican Party had compared to the Democratic Party. We had more minorities then the democrats who had what, three white people.
Now I don't say this as a republican I say this with a history perspective. Not all republicans are racist and the party of Lincoln never changed, their are people who joined and called themselves republicans but in name only not in action.

[Super Friendly Kitty Cat]

Yes, remind me how many churches they've blown up again? How many planned parenthoods have they shot up. How many people have been killed by them because of skin color?

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Nice attempt though.

I admit I am kind of fuzzy on the whole creation and necessity of declaring groups as domestic terrorists, but I am guessing it is so resources can be directed towards monitoring and intelligence gathering to stop violent acts, and the reason it was created was based off of churches being blown up, planned parenthoods being shot up and people being killed because of their skin color.

[Zandalarian Paladin]

About time. Antifa went beyond the line of free speech when they decided to get violent.

[Mihalik]

sip.

Cough. Bullshit. Cough.

This is a bombing.



What you linked was fireworks. More retarded hillbillies blow up their dicks on 4th of July than people were frightened by those firecrackers.

Also Obama threats went away after a month? You what? Where the fuck were you between 2008 and 2016? Pluto? An underground bunker in Nevada?

Fascists rarely take power by force. They get elected. Then they replace a judge or two, pass a couple of laws to restrict the media in the name of "national security", declare the opposition "terrorists" or "traitors" and tada...Fascism! Shake and bake.

[Runenwächter]

Antifa doesn't bomb government buildings, shoot up Mosques, Jewish Synagogues, Sikh temples or Churches,

No they dont. But in cases of people that bomb goverment buildings, synagoges, sikh temples or churches they pretty much do anything to defend them directly and indirectly as well as actively push for the envirnonment in which the violence others commit flourishes.

nor do they form militias and threaten federal agents tasked to execute a court order.

Yes, yes they do. What do you think Rigaer Straße or Die Rote Flora are? These are THE congregation centers for German Antifa culture. THEIR symbols.
Ever been in Berlin on May 1st? Ever read what they are usually up to here? Black clouds mean rain, Black hoodies and facemasks mean flying bricks and pyrotechnics.

Just because they slapped some fascists once or twice or confront Trump supporters they don't qualify as a "terrorists organization".

The reason they qualify is that they endorse, preach and practice violence on a large and organized scale against people that think different and even go so far as to intimidate and harass or otherwise harm any person that has dealings (such as renting out a location / space) with whom they disagree. Attend their meetings, listen to them defending their "violent resistance" against percieved fascism and pay attention to how they justify the libel, slander, harassment, intimidation and threats in the name of a "greater good".

Do you think these symbols are love, peace and non-violence? Antifa idolizes violence.

http://imgur.com/MaSd6dI
http://imgur.com/4V3Mzsg

[Hell-Nicø]

Welp, not soon enough tbh.

These ninja anarchist wanabee were the very definition of domestic terrorist, I hope they all go to jail.

[Post]

They seem to fit the bill.

[Nerdgasm]

Good. Neo-nazis literally made it into the US government, good to know that there is a large political pushback.

That's not what's happening here in Brazil. Since 2012 antifa got mixed with the black block movement and now they will target anyone that disagrees with the big leftist parties.

And I'm not talking about neo-nazis/alt-right. They will label you a facist so they can legitimize any violence against you.

From their perspective, I'm a facist simply because I think our impeached president is a corrupt woman.

[Taso]

Cough. Bullshit. Cough.

This is a bombing.



What you linked was fireworks. More retarded hillbillies blow up their dicks on 4th of July than people were frightened by those firecrackers.

Also Obama threats went away after a month? You what? Where the fuck were you between 2008 and 2016? Pluto? An underground bunker in Nevada?

Fascists rarely take power by force. They get elected. Then they replace a judge or two, pass a couple of laws to restrict the media in the name of "national security", declare the opposition "terrorists" or "traitors" and tada...Fascism! Shake and bake.

What about Hugo Chavez and Maduro? Both Who win by legal election and now passed laws restricting what the people can and cannot do? Is this nation willfully ignorant on those issues? Is facism all that really matters? Btw their both socialist.

[Lollis]

How many decades have republicans been terrorist? Twenty years or how about never. The kkk was created by distgruntled southern Democrats who were angry that the union busted them. .

Is the Democratic People's Republic of Korea a democratic country?

[Mihalik]

No they dont. But in cases of people that bomb goverment buildings, synagoges, sikh temples or churches they pretty much do anything to defend them directly and indirectly as well as actively push for the envirnonment in which the violence others commit flourishes.

Yes, yes they do. What do you think Rigarer Straße and Rote Flora are? These are THE congregation centers for German Antifa culture. THE symbols.
Ever been in Berlin on May 1st? Ever read what they are usually up to here? Black clouds mean rain, Black hoodies and facemasks mean flying bricks.
The reason they qualify is that they endorse, preach and practice violence on a large and organized scale against people that think different and even go so far as to intimidate and harass or otherwise harm any person that has dealings (such as renting out a location / space) with whom they disagree. Attend their meetings, listen to them defending their "violent resistance" against percieved fascism and pay attention to how they justify the libel, slander, harassment, intimidation and threats in the name of a "greater good".

Much hyperbole. Are you seriously comparing a couple of anarchist squats in Berlin to this shit?



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What about Hugo Chavez and Maduro? Both Who win by legal election and now passed laws restricting what the people can and cannot do? Is this nation willfully ignorant on those issues? Is facism all that really matters? Btw their both socialist.

The US doesn't have anything resembling a "left wing", it didn't have one since the 1940's. The US left is basically the equivalent of the rest of the world's right wing.

The US political spectrum starts on the center right (Progressive Democrats, even folks like Sanders and Warren) and then stretches into the extreme right wing and the Christian theocratic right.

Yes, Chavez and Maduro are elected leftists/nationalist dictators, they are as cancerous as Fascists, but they are simply not relevant to US politics. They are relevant to politics in European countries like Spain and Italy where Podemos and 5Stars are big fans.