you took it the wrong way man. i mean now a days we simply get to a set level in a scenario we have approached multiple times and end it at that. that is not solving anything just sweeping it under the rug. allow me to explain the examples i gave.
1. i dont live in america but iirc store's arent really allowed to refuse service. now would you say it is encroaching on their rights, because their reason is that she is an unpatriotic person and they would rather not deal with her vs ignoring her and moving along.
2. if someone murders someone, we try to mull it over with mental disabilities without reaching too far into the "well they actually might have been a terrible person", but no one would say that because it offends people.
3. bomb went off, most people would actively believe its a muslim guy (the times square car crash) but thats not always the case.
my whole argument has simply been that, x did y and they are protected by freedom of speech. sure. but consequences have nothing to do with freedom of speech. we cannot monitor and discipline every human being on earth. what we can is do better. and part of that is refining our way of approaching an end solution to this rather than just using rehashed easy to use bandages in every scenario to either explain it or close it.
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There will be plenty of social ramifications for her here. As I said, there are plenty of legal ways to let her know exactly what you think of her.
As far as legal ramifications go...no...there should not be any in any country that values free speech. There is no abuse of free speech here. All she's really guilty of is hurting some feelings. And let me be perfectly clear here... I do not defend her actions...I am defending her Right to those actions. Personally, I think what she did is disgusting.
"I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it."
Evelyn Beatrice Hall
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Action / reaction. She should be prepared to take peoples reactions for what they are worth, that too comes with freedom of speech. It isn't so much as you can not piss on a flag, you just better be ready for what comes next as you caused it. Her family should be targeted - now she sees how uncomfortable things can be for her. Keep pissing n flags and stay classy, women.
Probably could have stopped somewhere around shitting on her doorstep every day for the next year or maybe pissing on her front door. Threats of rape and murder are a..WEE bit much people. Still if she hates the country so much maybe she can just move somewhere more agreeable for her.
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See you don't get to decide that. You just prepare for the reaction. People are weird, some react like this or that. Basically if you need it broken down more,
Stay the fuck out of the kitchen if you can't handle the heat.
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Yes, if something he did outraged someone this much - he should' known better and can prepare for the consequences.. although he is president so I guess he gets to get away with more shit than the average joe... or in this case Joette.
Weird thing is to think that the same people who defend the freedom of speech of the Alt Right to be racist, are the ones that would threat someone for desecrating a piece of fabric.
Respect the flag if you wanna, and don't if it suits you more, but don't threat people who don't do the same as you.
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The issue isn't that she's getting hate..the issue is that the hate has crossed the line into rape and murder threats to her and her family.
Feel free to call her a cunt. I personally feel that what she did was pretty disgusting and I'd have zero problem telling her that. But as bas as she might be...the people that are threatening her and her family are worse.
“The biggest communication problem is we do not listen to understand. We listen to reply,” Stephen Covey.
I'd love to see the flag patrol go to a Trumpster rally. Anyone desecrating a flag is ticketed and has their "flag" confiscated and burnt. You'd be be able see that smoke plume two states over.
Bonus points if anyone flying a Confederate battle flag is declared an insurgent and deported.
Of course you could do that.
Burn a cross, a bible, whatever. No one is saying you SHOULD, but you still can and shouldn't be threatened by doing so.
And I wasn't saying the flag has no meaning, by the way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfS6gIpeGvQ
Saw this a few days ago, aparently he is a pastor and thought it would send a message by stepping on the rainbow flag.
The host found it offensive, and asked for him to leave the show. No threats whatsoever.