What Happened to Occupy Wallstreet?

[Saverem]

What do you guys think happened to Occupy Wall Street and what are your opinions of it in hindsight?

TLDR of it: Rich Wall Street cunts paid cops to "heighten security" to the point where the protesters were forcibly removed.

[Deleted]

When the fuck has that ever been the case?
The ignorance in this thread is so thick...

Ignorance yes, it has been negotiable for thousands of years, there was such a thing as free men, you know, slaves that where free after serving their masters. This has always been the case, not knowing this is ignorance. Linking some picture that shows a slave that has been beaten doesn't change anything.

[Shadowferal]

Ignorance yes, it has been negotiable for thousands of years, there was such a thing as free men, you know, slaves that where free after serving their masters.

Would you please learn wtf the difference is between serf and slave...that way you can finally claim to have learned something about history.

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Would you please learn wtf the difference is between serf and slave...that way you can finally claim to have learned something about history.

Gratz, you know two different words! How awesome of you!! Now if only you knew a little bit about the subject then you would earn yourself a sticker.
Just go and have a read on how things actually worked in ancient times, manumission isn't just a dirty word with "man" in it you know.

[hakujinbakasama]

They joined the new feminism/sjw movement.

[Perkunas]

They joined the new feminism/sjw movement.

Not really. I personally think the 1% needs to be reined in but I hate the regressive left SJW movement.

[Forogil]

Ignorance yes, it has been negotiable for thousands of years, there was such a thing as free men, you know, slaves that where free after serving their masters. This has always been the case, not knowing this is ignorance. Linking some picture that shows a slave that has been beaten doesn't change anything.

It does - manumission is (almost) an exclusive the privilege of the slaver-owner; since it is the slave-owner's property to deal with - by beating or by freeing.

A worker in a factory can walk away - without needing permission, and cannot legally be beaten. A prisoner often has a time-limited penalty - and beating of prisoners if they refuse to work is not legal in most countries.

[hakujinbakasama]

Not really. I personally think the 1% needs to be reined in but I hate the regressive left SJW movement.

Walmart is one of if not the largest Employer in the world.

Year, 2016
Total est Employees world wide 2.3 Million
Total net profit/loss 14.69 Billion

This breaks down to roughly $6,300 per employee that Walmart actually makes over their cost. G T F O

[Deleted]

People like these bandwagon activities, but they never last.

See:
KONY2012
For Her

(help us by expanding the list)

[Perkunas]

Walmart is one of if not the largest Employer in the world.

Year, 2016
Total est Employees world wide 2.3 Million
Total net profit/loss 14.69 Billion

This breaks down to roughly $6,300 per employee that Walmart actually makes over their cost. G T F O

I'm talking about capping percentages CEO's can make based upon a multiplier of the lowest paid employee's salary.

[hakujinbakasama]

I'm talking about capping percentages CEO's can make based upon a multiplier of the lowest paid employee's salary.

Or you could choose to not work for the company. It's almost like people forget that it's an option.

[Perkunas]

Or you could choose to not work for the company. It's almost like people forget that it's an option.

Well, it depends. Walmart could be the only employment opportunity near lots of people especially in the inner-cities or rural communities. Further Walmart is the mythical Welfare Queen that we've been told fables about since the early 80's.

[Kaleredar]

A leaderless movement with no defined goals?

Those rarely go anywhere.

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Ignorance yes, it has been negotiable for thousands of years, there was such a thing as free men, you know, slaves that where free after serving their masters. This has always been the case, not knowing this is ignorance. Linking some picture that shows a slave that has been beaten doesn't change anything.

When slavery became institutionalized in the United States, the only slaves that became free were ones that escaped to it or were lucky enough to have an owner that willed them their freedom (didn't happen very often.) Slaves did not "buy their freedom" when slavery was in full-swing. You were born a slave, you had kids as a slave, you died a slave, and then your kids worked as slaves. For dozens of generations.

The United States outlawed importing slaves 70 years prior to slavery being ended proper. Why? Because they had a self-sustaining population of slaves. You don't get that if every other slave is buying their freedom every few years.

[Deleted]

It does - manumission is (almost) an exclusive the privilege of the slaver-owner; since it is the slave-owner's property to deal with - by beating or by freeing.

A worker in a factory can walk away - without needing permission, and cannot legally be beaten. A prisoner often has a time-limited penalty - and beating of prisoners if they refuse to work is not legal in most countries.

Yes, it is the owner that can dictate the terms, since it is his property, that doesn't mean that a slave could not buy himself freedom.

A worker in a factory is only free to walk away if they have the means to. If not then they have to stay in order to feed them selves and their families. A prisoner is there at the mercy of their captives, leaving isn't an option for them either.

The only thing you are left with is beating, and back in those days everyone could get a beating for numerous things.

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A leaderless movement with no defined goals?

Those rarely go anywhere.

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When slavery became institutionalized in the United States, the only slaves that became free were ones that escaped to it or were lucky enough to have an owner that willed them their freedom (didn't happen very often.) Slaves did not "buy their freedom" when slavery was in full-swing. You were born a slave, you had kids as a slave, you died a slave, and then your kids worked as slaves. For dozens of generations.

The United States outlawed importing slaves 70 years prior to slavery being ended proper. Why? Because they had a self-sustaining population of slaves. You don't get that if every other slave is buying their freedom every few years.

Yea the problem with this stance is tho that it only is about the last bit of slavery in the west. And even then it happened quite a bit, in Virginia 6% of the slaves where released in a period of 18 years. But none of this really matters as it is only the last bit of slavery what you are talking about, and not the thousands of years prior to that, they happened too you know...

[Forogil]

Yes, it is the owner that can dictate the terms, since it is his property, that doesn't mean that a slave could not buy himself freedom.

You are painting a too rosy picture of slavery.

By dictating the terms the slave-owner could maximize his profit: incentivicing the slave - and getting rid of the used-up property - and getting paid for that.

A worker in a factory is only free to walk away if they have the means to.

A pair of shoes is all it takes to walk away, and even the shoes are optional.

Workers can do that any-time they like - without paying anything to be freed of their contract (unless they greedily signed contracts giving them money up-front).

Comparing that to slavery is ludicrous.

The only thing you are left with is beating, and back in those days everyone could get a beating for numerous things.

Everyone?

[Kaleredar]

Yea the problem with this stance is tho that it only is about the last bit of slavery in the west. And even then it happened quite a bit, in Virginia 6% of the slaves where released in a period of 18 years. But none of this really matters as it is only the last bit of slavery what you are talking about, and not the thousands of years prior to that, they happened too you know...

They sure did.


And...?

[EliWallach]

Money. They had money but couldn't agree on how to allocate it. Also, they got tired of feeding the homeless.

[Amalaric]

Let us know when slavery occurs again in the US! I wouldn't want to miss it.

Have you never heard of the term wage slave? That's when you have two jobs or even three and can barely pay for food and rent.

[Deleted]

You are painting a too rosy picture of slavery.

By dictating the terms the slave-owner could maximize his profit: incentivicing the slave - and getting rid of the used-up property - and getting paid for that.


A pair of shoes is all it takes to walk away, and even the shoes are optional.

Workers can do that any-time they like - without paying anything to be freed of their contract (unless they greedily signed contracts giving them money up-front).

Comparing that to slavery is ludicrous.


Everyone?

I never said it was nice and dandy? Of course the owner is going to try and maximize the gain from his property.

Yea, try and tell that to the people who actually need that job to survive so they can't leave, or they leave and their family starves. Somehow i think you did not read the entire definition of slavery.

a condition of having to work very hard without proper remuneration or appreciation.

I do not know about you, but i for one do think that these people working in sweatshops are not remunerated properly (anyone that doesn't have a livable wage i'd say is in the "same boat"). Just because someone is free to live in a house doesn't mean that they aren't slaves to their jobs. You have got to keep in mind the costs a slave owner had, they had to feed them, cloth them, have a roof over their heads and make sure that they do not succumb to illness/cared for when they are ill. In the 1700's and the 1800's in London poor people could only dream of having all these things. That doesn't mean that slaves didn't have it bad, but you do have to see things through the lenses of that time, and not how we look upon this now.

Yea, pretty much everyone, maybe not a king or someone high in the church, but besides that everyone was beaten for numerous offenses

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They sure did.


And...?

There where slaves for thousands of years. Saying that something didn't happen for the last bit says more about America then it does about slavery in general.

[Forogil]

I never said it was nice and dandy? Of course the owner is going to try and maximize the gain from his property.

Yea, try and tell that to the people who actually need that job to survive so they can't leave, or they leave and their family starves.

I will - and I will tell them to try to do that.

I know you did not read the entire definition of slavery.