Tomb of Sargeras Progression Thread

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I disagree. Back then players were far more hard-core as they are right now. 2 or 3 day raiding guilds simply barely existed in TBC. 5-6 days, 4 hours a night was the norm for even a casual rank 2000 guild trying to clear black temple. Back then the players in top guilds certainly played the game as much, if not more as current raiders do. Split raiding did not exist just because people were playing less, no it did not exist because flexible lockouts did not exist and there was only a single difficulty. Alts did not exist because people were lazy, but because you could easily spend 15 hours a day optimizing your main character, mostly farming consumables and stuff in the world, and because it took an insane amount of time to even get a few epic items on your main character.

Nah people certainly played as much, if not more back then.

If you needed 15 hours per day to optimize your character, you simply didn't have a clue what you were doing or were just terrible at doing it in general. Not to mention, there were even 2000 guilds raiding back then, at least not in a competitive setting, keep pulling the numbers though, maybe you'll get it right in the next 20 posts.

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Kind of wish the race would end like that, other guild going for reclear while another pushes the boss down LUL

99% not gonna happen now tho, think exorsus is using a undergeared boomkin just because they are that good on KJ

And here we see the advantage of seeing the fight before the reset. Method got to gear another boomkin thanks to that.

[Thunderbull]

I disagree. Back then players were far more hard-core as they are right now. 2 or 3 day raiding guilds simply barely existed in TBC. 5-6 days, 4 hours a night was the norm for even a casual rank 2000 guild trying to clear black temple. Back then the players in top guilds certainly played the game as much, if not more as current raiders do. Split raiding did not exist just because people were playing less, no it did not exist because flexible lockouts did not exist and there was only a single difficulty. Alts did not exist because people were lazy, but because you could easily spend 15 hours a day optimizing your main character, mostly farming consumables and stuff in the world, and because it took an insane amount of time to even get a few epic items on your main character.

Nah people certainly played as much, if not more back then.

Exactly, m8. My guild always trying to hit curve - and tried to do champion of frozen wastes etc. We raided 5 days per week in tbc, and now we got curves for 2 hours per week (kids, wifes, jobs, full rl)

[tonic316]

I disagree. Back then players were far more hard-core as they are right now. 2 or 3 day raiding guilds simply barely existed in TBC. 5-6 days, 4 hours a night was the norm for even a casual rank 2000 guild trying to clear black temple. Back then the players in top guilds certainly played the game as much, if not more as current raiders do. Split raiding did not exist just because people were playing less, no it did not exist because flexible lockouts did not exist and there was only a single difficulty. Alts did not exist because people were lazy, but because you could easily spend 15 hours a day optimizing your main character, mostly farming consumables and stuff in the world, and because it took an insane amount of time to even get a few epic items on your main character.

Nah people certainly played as much, if not more back then.

you know what happened back in tbc/wrath(before icc) when you world first a boss? You fucked off and had 2 hour raids for 4-5 months and nothing else to do. You know what happens now? They reclear it on mythic with their alts multiple times along with heroic still possible. Along with running mythic + on 4-5 toons. As you can see you clearly have no idea.

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Exactly, m8. My guild always trying to hit curve - and tried to do champion of frozen wastes etc. We raised 5 days per week in tbc, and now we got curves for 2 hours per week (kids, wifes, jobs, full rl)

your guild was just terrible back then. Your older now and have played longer and the info to find out how to play your class properly is more easily accessible. Along with simpler rotations and less buttons to press then tbc/wotlk. Thats why you can get away with 12 hours in a casual guild. But don't kid yourself that there isn't more effort being spent on the upper end today then back in vanilla/tbc/wrath

[BreaKerNZ]

Alpha sub 1% wipe, 1 person dead they must be FeelsBadman

[apelsinjuice]

alpha just wiped on 700k hp left and 1 guy dead almost all p2

[Xjev]

Oh, didn't realize it was a twitch stream, remember seeing something on a chinese site. Thx

http://www.panda.tv/hd/wow2017pve.html?roomid=307528

[FareweII]

Alpha just had 0.1% wipe with one dps dead the whole p2

[BrioWoW]

Literally 0.1% wipe.

[Deleted]

LOL 0.1% wipe.

[Elios]

Alpha 0.1% wipe jeesuss

[Tryuk]

Alpha sub 1% wipe, 1 person dead they must be FeelsBadman

0.1% holy shit

[Nellee]

Like 7mill HP. heartbreaking..

*edit* 755k

[Deleted]

Holy shit that Alpha wipe was brutal, can't watch this anymore

[BreaKerNZ]

That person that was dead for p2 must be feeling so bad right now

[Vestig3]

Extra Salty!

[apelsinjuice]

https://clips.twitch.tv/PoorPuzzledTitanTwitchRPG

750k hp wipe

[Deleted]

So how much time would a guild below top 20 guilds without 5 mages 4 rogues would take to download Avatar????? 3 months????<<

[Zoldor]

all people who said no one would watch stream, I have to admit I dig watching it so far, a lot more than I expected. I approve WF streaming. Not that anyone gives a shit. That Alpha wipe was rad to watch.

[BrioWoW]

So how much time would a guild below top 20 guilds without 5 mages 4 rogues would take to download Avatar????? 3 months????<<

Won't happen. Avatar will require significant nerfs for guilds that can't class stack.