Speculation is mounting that Apple's next iPhone could cost $1,200 or more

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OT there's no need to spend ludicrous amounts of money on a phone. So much variety out there.

[Varitok]

Is that really needed as your "analysis" of the article?

Phones get more and more expensive each year as they add more expensive design elements. In other Breaking News, oceans cover most of the Earth...

They charge more because they can, If you have swaths of brainwashed fanboys, you're going to cash in on it.

[BicycleMafioso]

I find it hard to justify that price. Google Pixel, Apple Iphone, whatever. It seems that features and innovating comes so rarely, that any new features added is just an excuse to increase the price. Of course, if this was their entry level price, it'd be completely outrageous. But it isn't. It's looking to be their highest end, right? As long as their entry-level offering doesn't go up, it's not really a problem. Otherwise, their alienation of customers is just a factor of time.
I'm soon replacing my own phone. I chose the Oneplus X last time and it was a fantastic pick. Enough to make me always consider the Oneplus 5; of course, it suffers from the same issue that the Oneplus 2 had at the time I was choosing a phone. It is way the heck too large.
The problem for me that all the smaller offerings either becomes a budget phone or sacrifices in other areas as well. Are there any smaller phone with an OLED, 1080p and decent battery at =<5" without performance issues, sign me right up.
Otherwise, the Yotaphone 3 is looking to be my pick (which is already way too big, who the heck wants a 5.2" screen on a phone?). Or I'll have to suck it up and go with a super-oversized Oneplus 5.
Price? Not much of a factor (as long as it's <5000 SEK). I, of course, will buy the phone out-right.
One-time cost and then enjoy my 80 SEK (~$8 USD) phone bill for unlimited data and 60 calls+600 texts monthly, reliably. Large recurring fees is not something I'm a fan of, in case unexpected expenditures happen.

It's about the software dude. Android is absolutely NOT on par with iOS in terms of usability. Something as simple as emojis are handled so poorly on Android that if you're texting someone with iOS the emoji could have a completely different meaning. Not to mention most Android phones come jam packed full of bloatware and other useless features like Bixby from Samsung.

I was about to agree with you, and then you started going completely off-rail.
"Handles emojis poorly because they show up differently on Ios"? Are you for real? That just means that the reverse is true. This is not an argument, this is just you saying you have preference for one over the other.
Android doesn't have any bloatware whatsoever; the fact that Samsung does is not a fault with Android.
Have I had an Android phone with bloatware? Yes. The Samsung Galaxy SII in 2011. Since then? No. And I've gone through four phones since. If it's not more.
Are Ios devices generally more stable? Yes. Are they running more smoothely? Yes. Is this because Ios is inherently better than Android? No. It does, however, have the luxury of having app creators know exactly the hardware on every single phone is and how it will run. It is so tight, and so few models, that they have it perfectly down. Let other phone

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I like IPhones, but not enough to pay more than $700 for one.

[Ehrenpanzer]

What people seem to forget or ignore, is that most flagship phones by any company often costs exactly the same is the latest iPhone.
Google phones, latest Samsung. Same price all around. If this new Apple phone will be 1200, so will the new Samsung etc.

The difference being that anything Crapple launches as "new tech" has been around for years for Android users. People are literally paying hundreds upon hundreds of dollars for a picture of an apple.

[Varitok]

The difference being that anything Crapple launches as "new tech" has been around for years for Android users. People are literally paying hundreds upon hundreds of dollars for a picture of an apple.

Its not about using the phone, its about showing everybody else that you are.

[Adam Jensen]

My favorite speculation on the iPhone 8 is the one I saw in the elevator this morning: "Rumour has it the new iphone will use the oLED technology to also be a mirror!"

....My little sisters have been using their selfie cameras as mirrors for as long as selfie cameras have existed. I'm super interested in oLED tech of course, but this is the dumbest addition to a phone that already solved this problem like a decade ago.

Yeah . . . I kind of feel like that's just a rumor. The camera already doubles as a mirror.

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Yeh that comment was a bit mean. Just curious, but do you buy the new phone because there is a "new" phone out or because there is a certain feature your current phone doesn't have that you are excited for in the new one that you are willing to spend $1200 for?

I bought an iPhone 5 because I liked it's style, I liked its features and I liked it's feel. I only upgraded to iPhone 6 because Verizon let me upgrade for free. No extra monthly charge, I turned in my 5 and got a 6. Simple as that. Didn't want a 6, but I didn't not want a 6 either so, since it was free, I took it. Same goes for 7. I still have my 6. I'll upgrade when either my phone breaks, or when I'm eligible for a free upgrade.

I don't feel the need to "be cool" or to "have the newest shiniest object." You won't catch me in line to to be the first to buy a product.

I bought a MacBook because it's reliable, it runs quickly, quietly and the OS is stable, unlike Windows which is plagued by the fact that it's made to be used off a wider variety of hardware. Windows is slower and less stable. It crashes far more frequently than iOS. I've had my Macbook for less than a year and it's crashed once, and that was a software, not an OS, error. My Windows machine however, which is superior for gaming because of it's GPU, spent more than a month after Creator's came out in limbo because the internet connection was suddenly unstable. Google Chrome would crash and other browsers would just hang for several minutes. I bought an ASUS transformer back in December for travel. Big mistake. That piece of shit would crash half the time I flipped it open. I had a Surface before that. That too had a buggy screen that required restarts to fix, and the keyboard often wouldn't be recognized unless I restarted the piece of shit. My Windows laptop takes more than twice as long to boot as my MacBook does. The only thing that it has on the Mac is it's GPU. That's it. And even that isn't always so great. Running Heroes of the Storm on that machine, my game takes like 2 minutes to load. Running it on the Mac, the game takes maybe 30 seconds.

So maybe I'll get flamed for this, but frankly, as a converted Windows user, I switched because Mac because I had a better experience with Mac.

And I don't feel like changing to a different phone because I'm accustomed to iOS.

But . . . I won't spend $1200 on a phone. If that's the cheapest for iPhone 8, you bet your ass I'm buying something else.

[breadisfunny]

"hey guys, we made a good phone that cost us $250 to make, we need $950 on top of that though... for shipping... and handling... it's a good fucking deal just give us our $1000 you hipster fucks."

it's sad that so many people would pay that just as some sort of status symbol, but at that price it only stands to show how dumb you are.

companies don't go into business to break even....

[Ave07]

My mom is financing her iPhone 6 plus which is really sad...

She only got it to show off to her friends she has an iphone and doesn't even use any of the features but Facebook and taking pictures.

[ohiostate124]

Is that really needed as your "analysis" of the article?

Phones get more and more expensive each year as they add more expensive design elements. In other Breaking News, oceans cover most of the Earth...

He's right though.

[TJ]

It's about the software dude. Android is absolutely NOT on par with iOS in terms of usability. Something as simple as emojis are handled so poorly on Android that if you're texting someone with iOS the emoji could have a completely different meaning. Not to mention most Android phones come jam packed full of bloatware and other useless features like Bixby from Samsung.

Err explain how? I've used both and definitely prefer Android. Apple seem to limit you in every single aspect and something as simple as adding music to your device becomes a longer task because you have to do all this syncing and crap with itunes just because they want you to use everything they say you can and you're restricted to that, not like on Android where you have loads of options. Not to mention no back button with Apples is soo frustrating to me..

Got an S7, no bloatware at all and had it for over a year and it's still lightning quick and working fine. Not sure where this rumour comes from that Androids slow down over time, I've never had that problem and would think it would be the reverse as everything you put on iphones such as photos/music/anything that needs storage is on the phone itself, whereas on my phone it's all on an external card.

[Grimbold21]

You mean people who realize that they can do what they want with their money, and spend it on stuff they enjoy? That is indeed outrageous.

You made your choice public, hence permissable to criticism or ridicule.

[ro9ue]

As someone who has a high end gaming rig and multiple Apple products. I don't really think Macs are as overpriced as people often parrot.

I prefer the Mac OS, I prefer the style and reliability of Macs, and I also prefer the user experience and ease of use of Macs. I have my gaming PC just to game and that's it, I'd rather do everything else on the Mac. If you actually were to price out similar builds, they aren't much different in price.

It's sort of like why people would pay $4 for a Starbucks coffee over a $3 Dunkin Donuts coffee.

Starbucks is better, the shop has a better atmosphere, and I have the money so I might as well. Dunkin Donuts is still good coffee, and gets the job done if there's no Starbucks around. But Starbucks is superior in style, consistency and quality. So it's worth the extra $.

[Tennis]

My mom is financing her iPhone 6 plus which is really sad...

She only got it to show off to her friends she has an iphone and doesn't even use any of the features but Facebook and taking pictures.

Financing a phone? Is this where we are at..

[ro9ue]

I work in a sales department for a mobile network and it's really amusing to see just how many people decide they want to stick with iPhones. Some of the reasons I hear most commonly are;

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This post sort of highlights what people don't necessarily get about why Macs are so popular - user experience. It's easy to use. This makes and breaks a lot of products. Numbers and specs only matter on paper and to tech geeks. For the average user they just want the thing to do what they need it to do and stay out of their way. This is where iOS dominates.

I do admittedly like Windows 10 a lot, they've done a lot to catch up to OSX in this area. Android on the other hand is utter garbage UX wise.

[Glorious Leader]

This post sort of highlights what people don't necessarily get about why Macs are so popular - user experience. It's easy to use. This makes and breaks a lot of products. Numbers and specs only matter on paper and to tech geeks. For the average user they just want the thing to do what they need it to do and stay out of their way. This is where iOS dominates.

I do admittedly like Windows 10 a lot, they've done a lot to catch up to OSX in this area. Android on the other hand is utter garbage UX wise.

This experience is not without cost though. Switching to android i found far more functionality from my note 3 and 5. Samsung seems to be trying to do the apple thing though which is disappointing. Apple really tailors the experience but that comes with an almost obsessive control over the experience users do get.

Unless one jail breaks ones iphone of course but rooting ones phone also opens up a world of course. Put it this way i was able to run software (like emulated pc and dreamcast ganes without rooting) that i never had the opportunity too on my iphone.

[BicycleMafioso]

This post sort of highlights what people don't necessarily get about why Macs are so popular - user experience. It's easy to use.

Familiarity != ease of use.
I don't understand them, and I partly don't want to either. Same goes for Ios. I find them unintuitive. I don't have this issue at all with Windows. Or even Ubuntu. Or Android. I have not tried win10 though. I am using win8.1 and sticking with it.
It all depends on what exposure you have to it. My first exposure to a handheld smartphone was like a Nokia, pre first Iphone. I think. Smartphone in the sense that it was a natural progression line and could easily be seen to move over. I found android similar and Ios alien.

In the end, one package doesn't suit all. I don't want to pick up the one latest phone and be at mercy of the manufacturer. American oligopolies and their business models never appealed to me.
I choose what I use and how. And I know which product is best for me. Apple cannot be considered competitive where choice is concerned.

[ro9ue]

This experience is not without cost though. Switching to android i found far more functionality from my note 3 and 5. Samsung seems to be trying to do the apple thing though which is disappointing. Apple really tailors the experience but that comes with an almost obsessive control over the experience users do get.

Unless one jail breaks ones iphone of course but rooting ones phone also opens up a world of course. Put it this way i was able to run software (like emulated pc and dreamcast ganes without rooting) that i never had the opportunity too on my iphone.

I agree with you completely that the experience comes at a cost - being tied down into their ecosystem. For me though, as long as thy remain high quality, I'm okay with that.

[MasterOfNone]

assuming this is accurate, there is no way i would pay that for a new phone. especially an iphone that isnt that much different than the ones before it. there hasnt been just a shit ton of new and great features for apple in the last couple years.

[Zeta333]

They'll sell tons, because most people don't even know or care what their phone actually costs, they only see what their rate plan is per month.

The public seems enamored with singular devices that can do a lot of things, but none of them particularly well. *shrug*

they see apple logo and buy on impulse. Nintendo has the same thing going.

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Price of owning the best phones in the world I guess

most overpriced phones you mean.