"To find him, drown yourself in a circle of stars." - mystery solved?

[Dug]

It seem far more likely this was added because N'Zoth was talked about during Cataclysm and it seemed likely he was going to be in that expansion before they arbitrarily decided not to include him, but still have a heavy Old God presence.

Nowhere in the PTR files was it shown that this was just added into a skybox. In Deepholm of all places, considering N'zoth's prison was pretty far from the Well of Eternity, much closer to the eventual Eastern Kingdoms and right around where Vashj'ir was.

Deepholm is a fair point. I'm not that well versed but I don't really see what it has to do with Old Gods aside from Elemental fuckery when they fought.

[thilicen]

While I'm not sure I believe this is an N'zoth thing, those patterns sure look like they are intended to be tentacles. Would be pretty insane if they left this there since Cata knowing this would be it's purpose one day.

[Kynario]

Interesting stuff, but we just had a whole expansion on a small set of islands (basically)...

... are having another one straight after this one, once again, on a small set of islands?

[Shampro]

Are people just not thinking things through? They obviously didn't create that in Cata to use it 3 expansions later, they are using it NOW as a segueway to hint as to where they would use N'zoth (Or whoever else).

They thought, ''Hmm we need something to hint his location in a riddle, oh this is a good one.'' when they were writing Ilgynoth, not in 2011 when a few artists thought it would look nice.

[Dug]

Interesting stuff, but we just had a whole expansion on a small set of islands (basically)...

... are having another one straight after this one, once again, on a small set of islands?

I'd be okay with that but only if they actually feel like islands. Broken Isles kinda just feels like a solid continent :/

[StationaryHawk]

The Kul Tiras flag is not a circle of stars.

Do I think it's wild to speculate that a skybox from Cataclysm could have included a hint towards N'zoth's location? No, as the visual is there and we've certainly had wilder speculation with much less. I'm not convinced that the graphic is linked to N'zoth, however.

Interesting stuff, but we just had a whole expansion on a small set of islands (basically)...

... are having another one straight after this one, once again, on a small set of islands?

While it may be called the Broken Isles, the zones themselves are all one landmass with the exception of the Broken Shore. Otherwise, only Azsuna is separated by a small river, which doesn't exactly give the impression of a "small set of islands."

[thilicen]

Are people just not thinking things through? They obviously didn't create that in Cata to use it 3 expansions later, they are using it NOW as a segueway to hint as to where they would use N'zoth (Or whoever else).

They thought, ''Hmm we need something to hint his location in a riddle, oh this is a good one.'' when they were writing Ilgynoth, not in 2011 when a few artists thought it would look nice.

Storywriters thinking ahead is not a revolutionary concept.

[KrazyK923]

Storywriters thinking ahead is not a revolutionary concept.

Yeah clearly they put in a vague Deepholm skybox in 2011 to hint at N'zoth in 2018.

OR they put in a vague Old God-looking thing in the skybox of a zone in an expansion with a heavy Old God presence.

[thilicen]

Yeah clearly they put in a vague Deepholm skybox in 2011 to hint at N'zoth in 2018.

OR they put in a vague Old God-looking thing in the skybox of a zone in an expansion with a heavy Old God presence.

This might sound wild as shit to some of you, but there is a chance they intended to use it back then (cata being old-god heavy as fuck) only to scrap whatever idea they had. Why not re-use it at a later stage if it makes sense?

[Shampro]

Storywriters thinking ahead is not a revolutionary concept.

Having the ''We must rebuild the Final Titan'' voice line in MoP from that Wrathion quest is thinking ahead, the Green Fire questline that hinted at Illidan being alive is another one, the Alleria arrow in WoD, etc.

A nice looking skybox that has literally no ties to anything is not. They looked at what to use as a quote for I'llgynoth and decided the skybox was a good one, thats it.

[mingarrubia]

Before Warcraft Chronicles, the common understanding was that N'Zoth was imprisoned beneath the Maelstrom (there were even people who believed that the Rift of Aln was right there with him). IMO this skybox is just witness to an old bit of lore that was retconned long ago.

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Asdhuashduahsd "DROWING" ???

How?? with an anchor? topkek


http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=151709/r...elslate-anchor


ah...ok

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[KrazyK923]

This might sound wild as shit to some of you, but there is a chance they intended to use it back then (cata being old-god heavy as fuck) only to scrap whatever idea they had. Why not re-use it at a later stage if it makes sense?

That's fine then if they want to reuse something. But that isn't what people are saying.

People are pretending they had this in 7 years ago to hint at N'Zoth in 8.0.

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A nice looking skybox that has literally no ties to anything is not. They looked at what to use as a quote for I'llgynoth and decided the skybox was a good one, thats it.

We don't even know if THIS is true.

Its just an arbitrary skybox from an Old God expansion that people found 6 years later and are dredging up and pretending is relevant again.

[Deleted]

Well tbh I'm quite sure that Wow Devs had some "Oda Foreshadowing" ideas, like dunno "we hint this NOW but INTRODUCE 3 years from now"

[thilicen]

That's fine then if they want to reuse something. But that isn't what people are saying.

People are pretending they had this in 7 years ago to hint at N'Zoth in 8.0.

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We don't even know if THIS is true.

People are just pretending it is.

Yes, I agree that this was probably not their intention back then. More likely than anything (if it's anything at all) they decided to use something they already had floating around when they created the red blob.

[KrazyK923]

Yes, I agree that this was probably not their intention back then. More likely than anything (if it's anything at all) they decided to use something they already had floating around when they created the red blob.

Although we should point out that Blizzard has done nothing with this skybox. Its not like they are pointing to it or directing people to talk about it or anything. I think we're assuming this for some reason when in, fact it's the opposite. People just discovered this thing that's been in the game for 6 years and are spreading it around as if its suddenly relevant because of a single EXCEPTIONALLY vague (Even for the Old Gods) quote from Il'gynoth.

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Well tbh I'm quite sure that Wow Devs had some "Oda Foreshadowing" ideas, like dunno "we hint this NOW but INTRODUCE 3 years from now"

3 years, yes, since they're developing the expansion then. Not 8.

[frogger237]

World of Warcraft is chocked full of wild, obscured hints and riddles.

It's not as outlandish as you imply. Fans do get crazy with speculation at times.

Do we know for sure the skybox was this way in Cata? Perhaps it was changed?

Its also filled with cool shit for the sake of being cool like the gundrak dungeon snake tail.

[Deleted]

Well they had DH to be introduced in TBC but then decide to pull off, we don't know how many years some thing in-game have been "foreshadow" tbh.


There are a lots of thing/ideas scrapped or pulled off since vanilla

[KrazyK923]

Do we know for sure the skybox was this way in Cata? Perhaps it was changed?

There was no change to the Deepholm skybox in the files in Legion. Apparently its part of the Shaman Class Hall at some point, even though I can't find it on my own Shaman, but I'll go ahead and assume this is true. And it probably makes sense due to the Maelstrom literally sitting on top of Deepholm.

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Its also filled with cool shit for the sake of being cool like the gundrak dungeon snake tail.

Or was referencing the Old God expansion that this zone showed up in, Cataclysm. :P

[Noomz]

So this is trending on WoW reddit right now: https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comment...n_a_circle_of/





So what do you think? Is this mystery finally solved?

Here's an edited picture on which tentacles are more visible:



Originally posted here: https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comment...le_of/dk2u56n/

Also in old Warcraft 2 manual, Kul Tiras flag shows circle of stars:



It was also pointed out in wow reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comment...t&utm_name=wow

This seems pretty solid. Kul Tiras seemed a bit out of place as content, but this would appear to explain it. Interesting! Time will tell.