SC allows limited version of Trump’s travel ban, will consider case in Fall

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We won't know that until October, like I said.

If they consider the issue moot, all prior rulings are vacated.

[Gamevizier]

surely the intention of this ban is to stop terrorists and dangerous people from coming to the US.

http://nypost.com/2017/07/11/iranian...er-travel-ban/

Cuz traveling to the US was such an easy thing for Iranians in the first place, let's forget all the background checks and processes Iranians have to go through to get to the US. and now thanks to this ban they're being treated like this. the purpose of this ban is nothing but to please the xenophobes in the US. Here's some inside info from Iran, ever since this buffoon came to office Iranians have become wary of US, it's policies and it's goals. while many in Iran viewed Obama as a person who would mend ties with iran, Trump is doing the opposite and ever since he took office the US has been rabidly supporting Saudi arabi even in matters they have no business in. and make no mistake, while the government of Iran is theocratic, the government of Saudi Arabia is no better either (in fact i think it's worse). You can say that Iranians are pro-western and don't like their government, but seeing the US now in full support of their main rival in a possible saudi-iranians war has made alot of Iranians support their army and their government (who are anti-western).

so while a US-Iran partnership was being viewed favorably in Iran, now many are supporting better ties with the rest of the world because they view the US as an obstacle, you can see the results of this in Iran's international policy which is taking them closer to the EU countries and their eastern partners (while leaving the US alone) we can say that the biggest obstacle to better ties with the US is not Iran but the US warhawks, because unlike Iranian conservatives the US warhawks actually have the power and the will to start a war with Iran, donald trump is the face of this movement, and it's trying to gain international support to confront Iran which is so far unsuccesful.

so in the coming years, expect a more isolated US and a more open Iran (open to every country except the US ofc) meaning more lost opportunities for US firms as European, Chinese and Russian firms rush in to fill up the contracts offered by Iran while US companies hesitate out of fear of the US government punishing them.

[Breccia]

surely the intention of this ban is to stop terrorists and dangerous people from coming to the US.

Trump's budget calls for slashing airport security.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...tsa/102070110/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...=.c7548aeae12e

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...307-story.html <-- Oh, and the Coast Guard, in case we forgot some people get to the US by boat, that'd be easier, too.

The Muslim Ban is pandering to his racist rabid fanbase. The intention was to stir up white nationalism, not to make America safer.

[Gamevizier]

Trump's budget calls for slashing airport security.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...tsa/102070110/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...=.c7548aeae12e

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...307-story.html <-- Oh, and the Coast Guard, in case we forgot some people get to the US by boat, that'd be easier, too.

The Muslim Ban is pandering to his racist rabid fanbase. The intention was to stir up white nationalism, not to make America safer.

but its the state department's job to vet and grant visas to foreigners who try to enter the US. the airport security is not really responsible for choosing who enters the US but rather checks what they are bringing with themselves (they can also detain and deport individuals who are in violation of rules and regulations, but overall the main responsibility of choosing individuals lies within the embassies and the state department). ever since this whole deal with trump's travel ban started US embassies have been reluctant in issuing visas for Iranians according to Iranian social media: the number of Iranians being rejected has reportedly increased by around 30-40%,though no official statements. Ordinary Iranians inside and outside the US are being affected negatively as their families can no longer visit them and they're afraid of leaving the US out of fear of not being let into the US.

Trump is doing a great job at alienating Iranian-Americans, many of whom are actually republicans because they believe democrats were mainly to blame for Shah's fall. now they're being treated as a hostile entity again even though there is no crisis concerning the US and the Iran. just like the sanctions this travel ban is targeting the wrong people and doing nothing but strengthening the hand of Iranian conservatives.

expect more cases of Iranians being used as scapegoats when another middle eastern national from a country allied with the US does some stupid shit in the USA because his country has business deals with the US and that apparently trumps over the security of Americans. which was one of the things Trump was campaigning against.

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but its the state department's job to vet and grant visas to foreigners

Aaaaaaaaaaand Trump's budget cuts the State Department, too. They are already cripplingly understaffed.

Don't get me wrong, I understand and agree with your point. However, there is nothing about Trump's actions that say he wants to make America safer. The Muslim Ban was just to stir up white nationalism, and will have no real effect on security, even if it's fully put into place (we're already at deadline + 60 or so).