Should Toy guns be banned

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Funny thing is that in the Netherlands manufacturing/buying (but not owning for god knows why) a real-looking gun is punishable with a fine, probably to avoid situations like this.

Having said that, bringing out a prop gun to a nightclub and then actually aiming it at the police is a fully retarded move, nobody deserves what he got but still he is fully accountable for what happened.

[Mayia]

No, people should just not be retarded it doesn't matter they'd find something to use in the place of a gun and end up shot anyway, stupid people will keep doing stupid things, it isn't about the object but the stupidity presented by these people.

[Sparklelord]

https://www.google.com/search?q=real...w=1600&bih=794

[Orange Joe]

https://www.google.com/search?q=real...w=1600&bih=794

And? Why link something with no input as to why?

[Moxal]

No. People really need to stop trying to get things banned.

[Nyoken]

Why was the police criticized for?? Blame it on the dickhead carrying around a gun that could obviously look like a real gun. Fucking moron ......next time paint the barrel around the gun orange or something.

So what if security said it was a fake gun? Was prob something the guy could have said going in there; "hey it's a fake gun *winkwink* I can go in right? - sure mate! go right ahead!"

Later on...someone spots the gun in the dark in there and thinks... "oh fuck a gun!" proceeds to call the Police, thinking the worst is gonna happen. Police later arrives on the scenes, watches the guy for a bit, then asks the security; " You know this guy? He a regular? Is that a FAKE gun?"

Security; " Uhm yea, i've seen him around a couple of times and he SAID the gun was a fake."
Police; " So you're not sure if it's a fake gun or not???"
Security; " Well he said..."
Police; " Oh fuck it. "

Think the Police is gonna play roulette here?

[Twizy]

No, toy guns are fine ... just don't be stupid with them.

True, but pull any gun toy and please don't complain when a Police Officer kills your stupid ass self. And yes I know you can't complain if you are dead, but it sounded good! Just to be clear a Police Officer makes instant decisions to protect not only the Officer, but also the people nearby. You point "anything" at an Officer during that time frame and I don't care if it was your cell phone, lipstick, etc. I hope you burial turned out good. Oh yes and the Officer would be correct in shooting anyone pulling and pointing "anything" at them.

[Maruka]

No they should not be banned over what 2 bogans did.

[Auxora]

In the US toy guns are usually bright orange plastic with red knobs on the end. There have been cases of people painting them black to look like a real gun and then using it in a robbery or w/e, but if someone is that knuckle-headed it's hard to feel bad for them.

As far as other countries go, it sounds like a good idea considering I've heard of a number of stories where people with toy guns were accidentally shot before the orange/red toy gun laws in the US were put in place. Some of the US ones might go a little overboard with the bright orange.

Either way, a lot of things have to go wrong with a toy gun even if it were painted black like a real gun for a kid to get shot. Most cops would still hesitate to make sure it's real before shooting, and hopefully the kids are smart enough to not point even toy guns at cops.

[Mister Cheese]

They should be banned in public honestly. That or ones that are painted realistically should be taken out of production. Only brightly colored ones should be allowed to be used in public. In a dark nightclub its nearly impossible to tell whether a weapon like that is real or not. I don't blame the police for shooting that moron.

[Zython]

Well, the police consider toy guys more dangerous than real guns, so...

[Bushtuckrman]

No and this entire event what happened in sjw shithole 'Melbourne YES' is just fucking retarded. Melbourne police need to focus on real crimes instead of raiding sex swinger clubs in cosplay. Hell they probably thought the cops were cosplaying before the shootings happened.3

[Mormolyce]

I used to collect Transformers and I know there were complaints around the fandom (The Original Megetron was a gun) and newer versions have to have those caps and colors were changed...one even was changed from to white.

http://www.tfu.info/2006/Decepticon/...n/megatron.htm

I mean he doesn't even look like a real gun and then went nutso on making his colors rather ungun like. Where as the Japanese version is more gunlike in color.

I'm waiting for the new MP-36 at the moment and praying Australian customs doesn't fuck me over with it like apparently happened with the old MP-02.

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No and this entire event what happened in sjw shithole 'Melbourne YES' is just fucking retarded. Melbourne police need to focus on real crimes instead of raiding sex swinger clubs in cosplay. Hell they probably thought the cops were cosplaying before the shootings happened.3

Swingers are "SJWs" now? What the hell are you even saying?

[Tack980]

They shouldn't be banned, they pose no real danger. Stupid people doing stupid things with them pose danger.... to themselves..... , and no mater what you do, they will come up with some new stupid way to ruin something.

[announced]

toy guns should be allowed just not in certain settings like night clubs, movie theatres, etc areas where shootings might occur. also if you point a gun at police prepare to be shot.

[Mormolyce]

Maybe read OP a bit. Thank me later

Maybe you should read the article instead of the gibberish my esteemed countryman vomited onto his keyboard.

[Donald Hellscream]

Nah slap an orange indicator on it so that you can see that it is a toy gun at a glance. I thought it was common practice in most places, in Denmark it is and our police rarely ever draw their guns let alone actually fire them in the first place.

The guy was a monumental retard for pointing it at the cops though.

[Noradin]

they're a safeguard against dictatorships, and foreign invasions. It is the duty of citizens to be well armed, well informed, and vigilant for the sake of their country. In America at least, but that's just our culture. Im sure things are different elsewhere. I know how to swim, but I like having a life vest on board a boat.

Yes, your guns will definively keep you safe against dictatorships!

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For a prop gun, you would not want that. Besides, those are easily taken off or painted over. It is mainly a " Feels good " solution.

Also, it is easy to paint the end of a real gun orange.

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Cops are trained to be cautious and use deadly force when they feel threatened. How could they tell it was a toy gun from several feet away, when it was made to look like a real one?

Because security of the place told them it was a toy.
It's in the article.

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Threatened a police officer is a crime though. Both articles state that the Joker wannabe drew his gun and didn't drop it when told to do so. No cop is going to walk up and see if the gun is real or not.

Both articles state that the police made that claim, but they would make that claim anyway to justify the shooting after being told it was a toy gun by the security of place.

[Deleted]

The guy was a monumental retard for pointing it at the cops though.

Not really all that weird, considering it was on a costume-orgy and he was dressed as Joker...

[Noradin]

Security; " Uhm yea, i've seen him around a couple of times and he SAID the gun was a fake."
Police; " So you're not sure if it's a fake gun or not???"
Security; " Well he said..."
Police; " Oh fuck it. "

So, your source that security didn't check the toy gun and relied on solely his claims that it was a fake?