Why are these anarchy movements popping up?

[Glorious Leader]

Yes yes, the not real Communism meme. Your rebuttal is a meme that anyone that doesn't live under a rock has heard 1000x before. No one finds it a compelling defense.

And yet its routinely used to defend free markets (those arent free makrets) despite decades of deregulatory policy in the name of free markets. Thats not real capitalism!

[Deleted]

Yes yes, the not real Communism meme. Your rebuttal is a meme that anyone that doesn't live under a rock has heard 1000x before. No one finds it a compelling defense.

Meme? Sorry I feel like I am talking to a kid. You either take my post seriously or not.

[melodramocracy]

Things like this have always been around. Mainstream media is just happening to give them undue notice at this point.

[Beardless Man]

Beyond that they have no appropriate ways to protest and not be a complete nuisance to the world around them.

Antifa is fighting an imaginary enemy, and the only way they can fight back is by causing massive public chaos and threaten other people to somehow see their point. But this only further secures my view that they are a domestic terrorist group with no reasonable clause behind them.

[OrcsRLame]

Meme? Sorry I feel like I am talking to a kid. You either take my post seriously or not.

I assure you, I do not take your post seriously in the slightest.

[Sama-81]

Meme? Sorry I feel like I am talking to a kid. You either take my post seriously or not.

To be fair, he's quite right in his assessment that a discussion about whether 'true' communism has ever been achieved or not, is utterly redundant and superfluous, since that 'version' of it literally can not be achieved in large scale reality. What we've already seen in so called communist countries, many times over, is MUCH closer to the practical outcome of any attempt than a theoretical utopia would ever be, whatever corrupted traits said states exhibited in terms of socialist ideology, etc etc. The notion of a communist utopia is very similar to the threads where random forum posters snap up a possible breakthrough in telomer-research, and start predicting that we'll reach a few hundred years of age in our lifetime - kids trying to be visionary, without having any practical understanding, neither about all factors involved nor about the overall picture, but rich in imagination and a will to believe. In both cases, who knows what will happen several hundred years from now, but we can all rest assured that whatever significant progress might be made some day, in either case, it is literally impossible that we will be around to see it. It will never become anything other than theoretical and philosophical, not for any of us.

[Dastreus]

45 posts in and somehow precisely 1 person actually gets it. I'm not an anarchist, because it's a fucking stupid idea, but I get the appeal. Everyone my age is fucked and there's no cavalry coming for my generation. The global warming clock is ticking and the rich already ate all the horses. Under those conditions, when your life is going to be shit no matter what you do, burning everything down and starting over seems like a pretty good plan. It's not, of course, as anyone who's paid attention to Syria can tell you, but it sure seems that way. Fix to total collapse of economic opportunity in western capitalists systems and you unmake all of these movements.

Ironically, I was an anarchist in high school and early college. I eventually learned that 1, from such a state, any form of new government(s) could sprout up, and they may or may not be as bad or worse than current. 2, if there was no unified military to support such a state, a foreign body could easily invade and likely win, and if anarchy is global, then you will instead have groups, such as tribes or... religious zealots, for example, who will reign in control in the same fashion as ancient history.

Basically, I realized that for an anarchist society or globe to function, humans would need to stop being fucked up, and that is not going to happen. At the same time, I have anarchist sympathies still, because as my post illustrated... man, fuck those assholes in power and their rich masters. The G20 protests? A direct response to the bullshit happening.

[Deleted]

And yet its routinely used to defend free markets (those arent free makrets) despite decades of deregulatory policy in the name of free markets. Thats not real capitalism!

You know; nobody but the most hardliner Anarcho-Captialists argue for "Real Capitalism"

OT: Most of these Anarchist clowns are middle class well off toffs LARPING as the Bolsheviks, who were in turn well off middle class toffs. Collectivism is a disease.

[Halyon]

People are bored and have the 'luxury' to not have to do productive shit, so they crave attention.

[Glorious Leader]

You know; nobody but the most hardliner Anarcho-Captialists argue for "Real Capitalism"

OT: Most of these Anarchist clowns are middle class well off toffs LARPING as the Bolsheviks, who were in turn well off middle class toffs. Collectivism is a disease.

Really? thats the usual defence of poor outcomes of capitalism. Chile wasnt a free enough market! Not real capitalism. Any particular gross failure. Poor healthcate in the US is cause governments is bad need freer markets etc etc

[Deleted]

Really? thats the usual defence of poor outcomes of capitalism. Chile wasnt a free enough market! Not real capitalism. Any particular gross failure. Poor healthcate in the US is cause governments is bad need freer markets etc etc

At least I can feed myself and wipe my arse in my evil Capitalist country, what can those Venezuelans say?

[Glorious Leader]

At least I can feed myself and wipe my arse in my evil Capitalist country, what can those Venezuelans say?

They can say we arent being murdered in the name of "free" markets and cap8talism by pinochets death squads because we try to organize .

[TITAN308]

Because they don't have jobs to go to.

[Theodarzna]

A majority of us have heard of Anarcho-Capitalists and Anarcho-Communists, but I'm just discovering that Anarcho-Transhumanism is a thing.

I guess I should have expected an anarchist branch of the movement to form, considering libertarianism is present in transhumanism with somewhat of an emphasis on morphological freedom.

I just find all these "anarcho-" movements to be odd. I find peaceful anarchy itself to be very unrealistically utopian, much more utopian than say communism or unbridled socialism (not a fusion of capitalism and socialism).

Dissatisfaction with the Status Quo which is aiming for more centralization, and managerial systems of regulating our day to day lives.

There is an impulse then to destroy it.

[Heladys]

Look at the fuckstains in just about any government, it's relatively easy to at least see the allure of pissing on all of it and backing anarchy.

We haven't seen it work though, in practice. And that's kind of important.

[Deleted]

Asking for the benefits of capitalism is not the same question aw whats better than communism and im not sure why you would confuse the two or even bring up communism. Unless of course youre unwillomg or unable to.discuss the merits of capitialism on its owm terms.

There is no discussing of capitalism "on its own terms". You HAVE to compare it to an alternative, otherwise, what's the point? You think capitalism is bad, so what do YOU suggest is better?

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Can I ask you if you have ever read a book about communism or capitalism? Have you any reference on your education? Because what you say makes no sense. I cannot fathom the definition you have in your head but it's certainly not scientific nor has it any reliable source.

Neo-liberalism after Adam Smiths happened just as much as Communism after Marx, that is: It didn't.

There is a theory and there is a practical application. And yes, I have read the theories behind capitalism/communism. And it's really nice to have these mindclouds where you discuss theoretical constructs.

But at the end of the day, any theory should always help make decisions in real-life. And looking at the practice where both are applied, there are clear advantages of capitalism (as it matches the natural tendencies of human beings) and any time that "communism" has been tried, it devolved into a socialism-like farce of itself.

Personally, I'm a big fan of Marx, but I do agree with his thinking of "Communism is superior to Capitalism when the problem of scarce resources does not exist any more"

[tikcol]

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I believe it to be dangerous to start categorizing political stands with funny names.

[Doctor Amadeus]

I am a authoritarian progressive liberal, so I really have no idea why Anarchist movement pops up, I mean I can understand their protest, but I am not at all in agreement with their methods and why.

[PL-Cibo]

Are you seriously asking what are the benefits of capitalism? As in: What's better than communism? I'm sure there are many people from former socialist/communist countries on this forum that can tell you those benefits.

There was never a communist state. Neither the UDSSR nor the eastblock or Kuba. China still isn't communism. Communism is a political construct south of utopia. But seeing as i live in a socialist state and our living standard is a lot higher then say in the united states it seems that pure capitalism isn't that great. So the benefits in a pure system should be standing up for debate.

Also antifa are not all anarchists, not really. Some of them like to paint that on their banners but in truth they don't really care about anarchism or understand that there is a need for a government. most of them are just left leaning students. Which is already in the name.

[Rennadrel]

They are just salty liberals.