Ukraine's refugees find solace in Poland.

[Theodarzna]

As sunlight streams through the windows of Warsaw’s Church of the Basilian Fathers, a priest in gold robes swings a clanking censer around the altar. He chants with a low intonation, and a choir in an upper gallery responds, their voices filling the airy church interior, which is dominated by huge oil paintings and numerous small icons of haloed saints.

The congregation is mostly made up of ethnic Ukrainians, members of a community that numbers hundreds of thousands and has been growing rapidly since the start of the conflict in eastern Ukraine.

Last year Poland issued 331,000 permits for short-term work to Ukrainians, up 50% on 2013, says Marta Jaroszewicz, a migration expert at the Centre For Eastern Studies (OSW), an independent Warsaw thinktank funded by the Polish government.

She estimates that there are now 300,000-400,000 Ukrainians in Poland, as many as twice the officially recognised number. In January and February, the number of residence applications by Ukrainians in the Mazovian voivodeship – the province which includes Warsaw – was up 180% on the same months of 2014.

The migrants have largely been welcomed, with some taking jobs vacated by Poles who have left for western Europe. But the numbers are a new phenomenon in a country more used to emigration than immigration.

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Considering Germany only took 150, I'd say hurray for Poland taking in and trying to clean up Germany and the United States' mess in the Ukraine. And they say Poland isn't taking in refugees.

[Deleted]

I prefer the original.

[I Push Buttons]

Err how is Ukraine the U.S mess?

Those soldiers wearing Russian military fatigues, using Russian military equipment, and speaking Russian... Who invaded Ukraine and stirred up a pro-Russian revolt against the government...

They were actually CIA agents. Tens of thousands of Russian speaking pro-Russian CIA agents.

[xuros]

Those soldiers wearing Russian military fatigues, using Russian military equipment, and speaking Russian... Who invaded Ukraine and stirred up a pro-Russian revolt against the government...

They were actually CIA agents. Tens of thousands of Russian speaking pro-Russian CIA agents.

Wasn't aware the CIA could spare "Tens of Thousands" of agents to give two shits about the Ukraine all at once.

[Haven]

I wonder what kind of jobs they could ever find there.

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Those soldiers wearing Russian military fatigues, using Russian military equipment, and speaking Russian... Who invaded Ukraine and stirred up a pro-Russian revolt against the government...

They were actually CIA agents. Tens of thousands of Russian speaking pro-Russian CIA agents.

Add to that that no one has ever actually seen them...

[downnola]

Wasn't aware the CIA could spare "Tens of Thousands" of agents to give two shits about the Ukraine all at once.

Welcome to MMO-OT: Where everything is a CIA plot.

[I Push Buttons]

Wasn't aware the CIA could spare "Tens of Thousands" of agents to give two shits about the Ukraine all at once.

I was being facetious.

[Theodarzna]

I prefer the original.

Who could match such skill?

[Deleted]

Who could match such skill?

It truly is a wonder to behold.

[Aggrophobic]

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Considering Germany only took 150, I'd say hurray for Poland taking in and trying to clean up Germany and the United States' mess in the Ukraine. And they say Poland isn't taking in refugees.

You mean the mess Russia created, right?

[Techno-Druid]

Good to see Ukrainian refugees getting forum coverage. Plenty of refugees worldwide struggling and as much as I understand the plight of Syrians, we shouldn't ignore the Ukrainians, the South Sudanese and the Pacific Islanders that are baring the wrath of climate change with rising sea levels and tropical storms.

[Deleted]

I see Poland is still pulling that lie still. No doubt they get some extra EU funds or something so they have to keep apearances up.
So lets mention some facts.

-Poland hosts a mere three Ukrainian refugees and has granted some protections to around 200 more. Another 65,000 Ukrainians hold residency permits in Poland. They are economic Migrants, not refugees.
-Ukraine’s ambassador to Poland, Andriy Deshchytsia, even stated that they are economic immigrants and not refugees.
-EASO officials explained that that Ukrainians were not applying to the “country nextdoor” like Poland or some other Eastern European countries. Instead, their biggest destinations were Italy, Germany, France and Spain.

It is absurb. It is like saying every Mexican Immigrant to the US is a refugee.

[Deleted]

Err how is Ukraine the U.S mess?

Vladimir said so. So it is. For some. Well, for those who read Breibart. And /pol/.

Which doesnt mean it is true. Our OP wants to drop some flamebait here. Or he wont be able to get a discussion going.

[Mehrunes]

Jesus motherfucking Christ. I expect this kind of bullshit from PiS sycophants drinking the government kool-aid about ever-increasing number of Ukrainian refugees in Poland, but foreigners? Then again it's Theo, so that is a bit more understandable. Gotta peddle the horseshit narratives. I guess it's the time for the right-wing brilliant minds of the world to unite. Maybe that way they'll develop the function to operate on facts and not alt facts nonsense that makes them feel good (though judging by this thread, it's not working so far).

Anyway, the article is from 2015 for start, so I'm not sure why you're linking it. The part you quoted doesn't even say anything about refugees. The whole article doesn't say anything specific about refugees. So good job on supporting your thread title and commentary.

But since you brought that year up, let's focus on the year 2015 for a moment. This is the year when Szydło started to bullshit about 500k Ukrainian refugees in Poland (which then grew to a million and then even more). It was also the year when EU started the procedure of safeguarding the rule of law aimed at Poland. Why do I bring that up, one may ask? It's because Szydło brought the part about refugees up in relation to one of the meetings about the rule of law procedure. Because irrelevant and pointless (and lying) deflections are right-wing's forte.

Also that year, within two days of her bullshitting about Ukrainian refugees in Poland, she was corrected by Ukrainian ambassador to Poland that Poland took in 2 refugees from Poland as per Poland's official statistics on the issue. Even better, those two were taken in all the way back in 2013. I.e. before the war in Ukraine began. Since then, Poland took in 34 more refugees.

I don't know about you, but 36 refugees over the span of 5 years, 34 of whom are war refugees, are a bit less than 150 Ukrainians Germany took in. Now, given what your thread already represents, you may have also picked up the bullshit about thousands of illegal refugees. But even if statistics confirmed those, which they don't, illegal refugees aren't exactly people "taken in" by the country they reside in.

The rest of the Ukrainians in Poland are here for work. Because Polish law makes it easier for people from Ukraine, Belarus, Georgia and few other countries to come to Poland to work as opposed for other non-EU countries. They are about as relevant to the topic of refugees as the 2 million Polish workers in Germany and another 1 million in UK. Which is as irrelevant as one can get. This thread is patently pathetic.

[Deleted]

Those soldiers wearing Russian military fatigues, using Russian military equipment, and speaking Russian... Who invaded Ukraine and stirred up a pro-Russian revolt against the government...

They were actually CIA agents. Tens of thousands of Russian speaking pro-Russian CIA agents.

Cia agents on holiday (vacation for those in the colonies), surely?

[DesoPL]

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Considering Germany only took 150, I'd say hurray for Poland taking in and trying to clean up Germany and the United States' mess in the Ukraine. And they say Poland isn't taking in refugees.

I try not entering much political discussions, but here i must say one thing. Our current goverment got mastery level of hypocrisy...

HATE IN 3.2.1...

[Mehrunes]

Also, when "they" say Poland is not taking in refugees, "they" clearly refer to the ones from the refugee crisis. Because even if every single Ukrainian on Earth was a refugee in Poland, the previous Polish government already accepted the 7k refugees quota. So what "they" talk about is Poland not fulfilling its legal obligations. Poland taking in other refugees does not absolve it of these obligations.

And if Poland has the hypothetical resources to take in hypothetical hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian refugees, they sure as hell have the resources to take seven thousand people. That is less than 3 people per goddamn municipality. But they don't, because they "bring plagues" and other excuses taken directly from Mein Kampf.

[Independent voter]

Doesn't Poland have a higher GDP than Russia now?

[kenthovind]

Those soldiers wearing Russian military fatigues, using Russian military equipment, and speaking Russian... Who invaded Ukraine and stirred up a pro-Russian revolt against the government...

They were actually CIA agents. Tens of thousands of Russian speaking pro-Russian CIA agents.

CIA is behind it, they will work with any corrupt leader who is willing to start wars and revolutions. CIA track record speaks for it self, if they cannot find a corrupt leader they will simply start a war in his or a neighbouring country.

Russia cleaned up the mess fast and clean unlike the mess in Iraq that worthless USA pentagon makes worse for every day that goes by.

[Mehrunes]

Doesn't Poland have a higher GDP than Russia now?

Not by a longshot.