Poll: Do you support any secessionist movements?

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  1. #121
    Quote Originally Posted by Kalis View Post
    I support the Isle of Sheppey leaving the UK, awful place, no redeeming features whatsoever.

    Also reinstatement of the Angevin Empire, that belongs to us.

    Independence for Birmingham as well, or just nuking it.

    Finland to Russia.
    I assume you are being mostly comedic here, but I'll still say fuck you, in the most strictest terms.
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  2. #122
    Quote Originally Posted by Connal View Post
    Yes...



    And Free Tibet.
    You DO realize that if anyone is going to be annexing/absorbing anyone, it's far, far more realistic and likely that Canada would be absorbed into the United States, not the other way around, right? The smaller, poorer, weaker country (and let's face it, Canada is all three) never takes over the larger, richer, more powerful country. It's always the other way around.

  3. #123
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    Such a catastrophic movement would leave the US fractured.
    It would be just the thing to shake up our western coast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Connal View Post
    I did not see it as a hostile takeover, but the states willingly joining Canada; not something that will happen, but I can dream.
    And thankfully, that is all it will be.

  5. #125
    I'm going to be that dissenting voice that says 'no' on Taiwan.

    Taiwan declaring independence would be like taking a bat and smashing your console because you got a PS4 when you asked for a PS4 Pro. Yes, they are officially part of China. But for all practical purposes, they are independent. They do business with countries and companies as if they were a country. They issue their own passports and have an autonomous government. They have their own currency. Their own armed forces.

    I for one don't support a potentially bloody conflict that would drag allies, including us, into the fray just so Taiwan can thump their chest and say 'We're a real country now!' Eventually, such a conflict may be necessary. But to actively pursue it would be stupid.
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    I support Crimea joining Ukraine, Kaliningrad joining Germany or Poland; Siberia, Taiwan, Hong Kong, and California gaining independance. I would add Scotland, but it would harm the UK military too much.

  7. #127
    Quote Originally Posted by Kellhound View Post
    I support Crimea joining Ukraine, Kaliningrad joining Germany or Poland; Siberia, Taiwan, Hong Kong, and California gaining independance. I would add Scotland, but it would harm the UK military too much.
    It would be interesting to see the cultural changes Kaliningrad would undergo if it were to somehow rejoin Germany. Would the now Russian-majority country completely Germanize? Would it maintain its Russian culture or would it become a creole of German and Russian culture?

  8. #128
    Quote Originally Posted by Kalis View Post

    Independence for Birmingham as well, or just nuking it.
    Hey iam from Birmingham and i want Independence from those inbred yam yam cunts! so just nuke Wolverhampton instead!!

    Also i support Brexit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atethecat View Post
    It would be interesting to see the cultural changes Kaliningrad would undergo if it were to somehow rejoin Germany. Would the now Russian-majority country completely Germanize? Would it maintain its Russian culture or would it become a creole of German and Russian culture?
    Germany should do to Kaliningrad what Russia did to Königsberg.

  10. #130
    Quote Originally Posted by Kellhound View Post
    Germany should do to Kaliningrad what Russia did to Königsberg.
    Encourage German settlement and adoption of German languags and culture yes, but I think it would be immoral to expel the Russians that were born and raised there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atethecat View Post
    Encourage German settlement and adoption of German languags and culture yes, but I think it would be immoral to expel the Russians that were born and raised there.
    That didnt seem to be an issue for the Russians 70 years ago.

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    Wales,
    Nova Scotia,
    Scotland,
    Isle of Man,
    Brittany,
    Basque Country,
    A Christian Arab Lebanon,
    Bolachistan,
    Make Pakistan India and Hindu again, and Bangladesh.
    Berbers, if you can get them in one place.

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    When did secession ever do any good for anyone, across history?! Name one example when something good came out of it. I can give you tons of examples where uniting made countries better and stronger. Greece, Japan, America, China, and others, all small countries or states at some point, but united through conflict.

  14. #134
    Quote Originally Posted by Syrene View Post
    When did secession ever do any good for anyone, across history?! Name one example when something good came out of it. I can give you tons of examples where uniting made countries better and stronger. Greece, Japan, America, China, and others, all small countries or states at some point, but united through conflict.
    America succeeded from Great Britain, as did India. China is also culturally attempting to sinicize Tibet and Xinjiang (East Turkestan) and has largely already done do with Inner Mongolia.

    And some secessionist movements could entail unification with other countries. If Karelia succeeded from Russia it could join Finland, for example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syrene View Post
    When did secession ever do any good for anyone, across history?! Name one example when something good came out of it. I can give you tons of examples where uniting made countries better and stronger. Greece, Japan, America, China, and others, all small countries or states at some point, but united through conflict.
    The US secession from arguably the most powerful country in the world at the time seems to have worked out pretty well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellhound View Post
    The US secession from arguably the most powerful country in the world at the time seems to have worked out pretty well.
    Yes, I didn't think of those situations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimboa24 View Post
    You DO realize that if anyone is going to be annexing/absorbing anyone, it's far, far more realistic and likely that Canada would be absorbed into the United States, not the other way around, right? The smaller, poorer, weaker country (and let's face it, Canada is all three) never takes over the larger, richer, more powerful country. It's always the other way around.
    Hmmm as of 2016 Canada has a nominal GDP of roughly, 1.5 Trillion USD.

    Baja Canada has a GDP of, and I'm going to ignore the map because dividing California's GDP would be painful, of 3.3 Trillion USD

    Mini Willinoise has a GDP of 1.9~ trillion

    New America has a GDP of 4.2~ Trillion

    and the United state of Texas would have a GDP of a bit over 8 Trillion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tierbook View Post
    Hmmm as of 2016 Canada has a nominal GDP of roughly, 1.5 Trillion USD.

    Baja Canada has a GDP of, and I'm going to ignore the map because dividing California's GDP would be painful, of 3.3 Trillion USD

    Mini Willinoise has a GDP of 1.9~ trillion

    New America has a GDP of 4.2~ Trillion

    and the United state of Texas would have a GDP of a bit over 8 Trillion.
    ...what's your point? There is no Baja Canada, no Mini Willinoise, no New America, no United State of Texas. There is Canada (1.55 trillion GDP) and the United States (17.95 trillion GDP). Like I said, imagining that Canada would absorb, acquire or annex any part of America is a ridiculous liberal fever dream/fantasy. In the real world, if anyone is absorbed by anyone it is far more likely that Canada would be absorbed into the United States, not vice versa.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimboa24 View Post
    ...what's your point? There is no Baja Canada, no Mini Willinoise, no New America, no United State of Texas. There is Canada (1.55 trillion GDP) and the United States (17.95 trillion GDP). Like I said, imagining that Canada would absorb, acquire or annex any part of America is a ridiculous liberal fever dream/fantasy. In the real world, if anyone is absorbed by anyone it is far more likely that Canada would be absorbed into the United States, not vice versa.
    My point was that even those small portions of America are individually larger economic entities than Canada. For instance even in the case of Mini Willinoise Canada would still be the minority partner despite having a larger population and being much larger in terms of area of land
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    I'd never compare him to Hitler, Hitler was actually well educated, and by all accounts pretty intelligent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puupi View Post
    Kurdistan
    Scotland
    United Ireland
    Catalonia
    Basque Country
    Sweden ceding Västerbotten, Norrbotten and Lappland to Finland, Finland giving Åland to Sweden
    Quebec
    Padania
    Russia should be split in multiple smaller states
    Ceding the north to Finland would mean giving up the mining industry up there. I don't think you'll find many swedes in support of that

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