Tomb of Sargeras Progression Thread

[Deleted]

You in no way, shape or form needed 8 geared tanks on Four Horsemen. This is a common misconception from people who are absolutely clueless about vanilla raiding yet like to pretend they know what they're talking about anyway.

"You need 8 tanks" was overkill from earlier strategies from guilds who didn't realise or didn't properly accommodate for there being a safe spot in the middle of the room.

[cqwrteur]

you can tell alpha are making steady progress so the fun is obvs not impossible xd

You can tell me because I know people in alpha.

[RoKPaNda]

Yes but for me raid composition is not a parameter of the mechanical difficulty of an encounter. Imagine an encounter that says : if you have 8 warriors in your raid the boss dies instantly when you engage it, if not the boss one shot the whole raid. Do you consider this encounter a hard mechanic fight? or a hard fight at all?

On the topic of 4 horsemen, i'm curious: It was not possible to 5 tanks this encounter? (it's a Genuine question)
Like one tank for each horseman (at the start tank 1 is tanking horseman 1, tank 2 is tanking horseman 2etc...), the 5th one stand in the safe spot and take no stacks. Then when it is requires to swap, tank 5 (with no stacks) take horseman 1, tank 1 take horseman 2, tank 2 take horseman 3 etc... and tank 4 go in the safe zone to drop it stacks.

I agree that having 8 tanks makes it much safer, but if it was so hard to have 8, why guilds didn't try with 5?

Taunt used to have the same chance to miss as any other spell.

[Deleted]

Exorsus reducing raiding hours. Real life boss kicking ass.

[jjbarea]

id expect method will do the same too next week no reason to bang your head against a wall for 16 hours a day

[Deleted]

Taunt used to have the same chance to miss as any other spell.

This. The more warriors with tier 3 four set bonus you had, the better. If you miss a taunt- dead tank, and possibly wipe.

[Rafoel]

Exorsus reducing raiding hours. Real life boss kicking ass.

They need to putin more effort.

[Deleted]

They need to putin more effort.

Yeah they Moscow harder next time..

[Artamor]

Exorsus
18m
"Real life duties are calling, so we will be reducing our raiding hours, especially during working days."

[idunnowatdo]

Yeah they Moscow harder next time..

boooooo! i loled but booo anyway. This fight looks interesting. I wonder what was the vanilla equivalent since vanilla was just as hard hue

[Alakallanar]

So Legion KJ >> TBC KJ
Therefore, if we substract "KJ" from both sides of the inequality we got :
Legion >> TBC

That's utter nonsense...

Clearly you have to divide by KJ.

[Artamor]

Scott McMillan (AT)Methodsco
2m
LET'S GO! Another day of KJ
Trying to make sure history doesn't repeat itself (still beat Nihilum tho)!

[jjbarea]

Scott McMillan (AT)Methodsco
2m
LET'S GO! Another day of KJ
Trying to make sure history doesn't repeat itself (still beat Nihilum tho)!

wow shots fired

[Manilae]

You in no way, shape or form needed 8 geared tanks on Four Horsemen. This is a common misconception from people who are absolutely clueless about vanilla raiding yet like to pretend they know what they're talking about anyway.

"You need 8 tanks" was overkill from earlier strategies from guilds who didn't realise or didn't properly accommodate for there being a safe spot in the middle of the room.

I raided every single raid since vanilla from day one. I killed the Lich King in vanilla and i know how those bosses worked.
If someone starts telling that u didnt need 8 tanks that might be right but basicly no one killed it prepatch without 8 t3 geared tanks.
There was no room for error with taunts.

[Artamor]

And so ScottMcMillan, aka Sco, proceeded to have a happy fulfilling life. He got everything a man could expect in this life. After so many world firsts, he retired and had an amazing career and family. And many many years later, on his deathbed, despite all this a single heavy sorrowful tear rolled down. On his dying breath he whispered: "I never beat Kungen."

PS - this isn't meant to be taken seriously!

[SoLoR1]

This. The more warriors with tier 3 four set bonus you had, the better. If you miss a taunt- dead tank, and possibly wipe.

mocking blow, taunt off a CD and taunt again, only if 2nd taunt also missed it was a wipe.

[TheFirstOnes]

These guilds should get gud, vanilla was way harder.

Pretty sure more than half of these guys played Vanilla, mate!

[Deleted]

Pretty sure more than half of these guys played Vanilla, mate!

hardcore vanilla raiders nowadays are less common than black qiraji drones back in the day.

[Deleted]

I dont even wanna think how hard the special mythic phase must be then...

[Kazuchika]

Exorsus
18m
"Real life duties are calling, so we will be reducing our raiding hours, especially during working days."

what a bunch of casuals