"We" did once, but we left before the job was properly finished.
Would it be less stupid if it was imposed by Hillary? Obama too imposed travel bans during his reign, but no one batted an eye. But when a republican does the same, everyone goes nuts.
Yeah, no.
Well, unless you're one of those unfounded nutjobs who think Obama was Satan Incarnate ("WHAT, HE ASKED FOR DIJON MUSTARD ON HIS HAMBURGER?!?!?!?!!?!?!??!?!!?!). At which point nothing you have to say has any meaning or worth, especially when comparing him to Trump.
Different kind of bad deal for the United States. The travel ban will do nothing to protect the United States.
Honestly the USA should just pull all military presence from the entire world, shut down all foreign bases and recall all military forces, except those necessary for consulate defense, to within 200 miles from our coastline. The savings from that could be put into education and social programs for United States Citizens.
Let the rest of the world foot the bill for global defense for the next 70 years.
The Right isn't universally bad. The Left isn't universally good. The Left isn't universally bad. The Right isn't universally good. Legal doesn't equal moral. Moral doesn't equal legal. Illegal doesn't equal immoral. Immoral doesn't equal illegal.
Have a nice day.
i want as much freedom as possible for my fellow american citizens, foreigners should ask THEIR governments for the same i guess, not our business.
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but trumps ban on 7 nations is to prevent them coming to our soil so... (;
It is our business, if they want to come here. You oppose freedom, what a shame. Immigration does not hurt you, or take away your freedom. But hey, it's glad to know you don't support the restriction of any action that does not cause harm. I'm glad you support legalized gay marriage, legalized drugs, legalized prostitution, getting rid of speeding laws, lifting all restrictions on abortion and abortion clinics, and public nudity laws.
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this guys must be fat trolling, such a stereotypical leftie sjw cant exist.
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WTH 6+ wars the only this would work would be the world behind it, and ok with the west basically colonizing those places and slowly introducing western style gov't / freedoms over generations .. in short no.
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Don't forget that the travel ban is temporary. Admittedly, I'd like to see it made permanent, but w/e.
Anyway, whilst I'd like to see sound government... basically everywhere, to be honest... that's a side issue. If there are, say, a thousand terrorists in Country X, then having a travel ban from there might be a good idea even if you're invading them. Actually, scratch that. It's a good idea especially if you're invading them. Imagine not blocking travel from Germany to Britain in the middle of WW1 :P .
I tend to agree, but as Iraq & Afghanistan showed, you have to do it properly or not at all. A proper approach is going to take decades to do, and can easily cost thousands of lives - your own soldiers I mean, not just the locals.
For example, had I known that Obama would cut & run from Iraq, I would never have supported going in - but then, hindsight is 20:20.
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Words to live by.
there is no guarantee it can be done 'properly'; the british (and other european powers) occupied many of their colonial territories for hundreds of years and didn't succeed in establishing stable governments (nevermind democratic ones.) There's no guarantee that ethnic or religious tensions in say, the sudan wouldn't result in that country shaking itself apart no matter how long you occupied it.