Question for Younger People

[Dorothyjean]

Have a generic question, no stereotyping or anything, that I want to ask of the younger generation like low 20s or under.

I'm 45 and realize I am getting older as are my views, ideas etc. and have no real problem with that. What I've been noticing in the last few years with my interaction with younger people has been turning into this weird mix of people remaining positive / pushing your 'negativity' away even if they are wrong about it and in the same sense, having these over the top in your face yelling and screaming for something they believe in but they don't feel negative about it.

As an example and I'm using WoW primarily because todays been an odd ride for me. I was listening to a Discord last night during a pug raid and someone called someone out for doing the wrong mechanic. A handful of people were ultra-aggressive about the person screwing up and even with apologies, the people persisted in riding this person about their mistakes even though most of them were making mistakes throughout the night doing the raid.

Now... stayed in Discord talking to them after the raid and had mentioned how I got banned from the WoW Forums for mentioning botters after I spent an entire night being swarmed by them in Suramar. In the space of 5 minutes or so, much like the thread on the WoW forums turned out, I was suddenly the one to be blamed ... why is it my right to tell someone how they play? How did I know they were botters? You should accuse people of botting... etc. etc. and I just sat quietly and listened knowing full well that almost everyone in WoW EXCEPT for botters ... hate botters generically but here I was listening to a group of people who not 2-3 hours earlier were berating someone aggressively and then were now calling me out as the 'bad guy' for being aggressive about botters.

That's where my question lies... is this just something inherent to this generation coming in? Is playing Devil's advocate always the outcome? Is it ok if "this" is wrong but if you say it's wrong you're in the wrong etc. if that makes sense. I am seeing this sort of thing more and more and am curious if it's this generation coming up, is it a "Millenial" thing cause I know my generation wasn't like this nor my parents. Not accusing anyone of anything, just curious what some answers will be to this question. Thanks.

[Allybeboba]

As someone your age and a professional observer of others, I can tell you what happened in two words.
Mob Mentality...
http://www.medicaldaily.com/mob-ment...-groups-288342

When people are in a group they experience loss of self awareness.
When people are part of a group they can lose their sense of individualism.
..... behaviors that are normally unacceptable suddenly become acceptable especially when others in the group are 'seen' doing them.
..... people feel anonymous within a group which reduces their accountability.

People gain a sense of identity within a group. They feel they have a voice they didn't have before. The group gives them their voice.


Good luck in your gaming adventures. There is no escaping raging gamers nowadays. You just have to suck it up Buttercup.

[I Push Buttons]

Having no shame/being a hypocrite is not unique to millennials, no. *cough cough* old people bitching about socialism while they collect their social security and medicare *cough*

Is playing Devil's advocate always the outcome?

That's true for everyone of every age. People are just argumentative and many, if not most of us, have an incessant need to be right.

[Dorothyjean]

As someone your age and a professional observer of others, I can tell you what happened in two words.
Mob Mentality...
http://www.medicaldaily.com/mob-ment...-groups-288342

When people are in a group they experience loss of self awareness.
When people are part of a group they can lose their sense of individualism.
..... behaviors that are normally unacceptable suddenly become acceptable especially when others in the group are 'seen' doing them.
..... people feel anonymous within a group which reduces their accountability.

People gain a sense of identity within a group. They feel they have a voice they didn't have before. The group gives them their voice.


Good luck in your gaming adventures. There is no escaping raging gamers nowadays. You just have to suck it up Buttercup.

It wasn't really bothering me but I was curious as to how at one moment they could be so aggressive over something and then so the opposite even when individually they knew botting was wrong but as a group they all went at me. Was really odd to listen to it happen.

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Having no shame/being a hypocrite is not unique to millennials, no. *cough cough* old people bitching about socialism while they collect their social security and medicare *cough*



That's true for everyone of every age. People are just argumentative and many, if not most of us, have an incessant need to be right.

True, true. I don't complain about socialism myself, just don't think it can happen with how diverse people are these days. Not to be devil's advocate or go off topic but you can't fault old people for collecting social security, most of them spent their lives paying into that. I'm 45 and have paid into it and will most likely never see it once I hit 65+ but I digrees. Hypocrisy indeed.

Just felt weird to me because most people my age generally know when something is wrong and they will point it out but when I went to point out botting was wrong it was like I became the bad guy instead of them just saying "Yes, botting is wrong".

[Doctor Amadeus]

Having no shame/being a hypocrite is not unique to millennials, no. *cough cough* old people bitching about socialism while they collect their social security and medicare *cough*



That's true for everyone of every age. People are just argumentative and many, if not most of us, have an incessant need to be right.

Damn spot on, even with me, well the arguing when I was younger not so much now.

But as for the millennials and not being one, I think soo many are actually too hard on themselves, and my generation in particular who could be more understanding are the biggest hypocrites and full of shit.


Don't get me wrong, I hate today's music, fashion and trends along with politics, but that isn't because things were better, I am just older. I will also say the generation before mine baby boomers were actually a little less obnoxious towards us than X'ers have been towards Millennials.

In fact I even remember some The Greatest Generationers I've have met even before Baby Boomers, that for the most part have given me the best advice when considering Baby Boomers and that is "take whatever advice and opinions with a grain of salt."

[Stelio Kontos]

I don't think poor behavior is a generational issue, though the worst behaved folks I usually see are on the younger side. Again, generally.

Sounds like you were in a guild with a bunch of turds, to be honest.

[Low Hanging Fruit]

Us vs Them thread commmmming up!!!!

[Mister Cheese]

Opinions are like onions. Everyone has one and they're all wrong except mine!

[Stelio Kontos]

Opinions are like onions. Everyone has one and they're all wrong except mine!

Opinions are like onions. Not allowed at my dinner table.

[Torto]

That's where my question lies... is this just something inherent to this generation coming in? Is playing Devil's advocate always the outcome? Is it ok if "this" is wrong but if you say it's wrong you're in the wrong etc. if that makes sense. I am seeing this sort of thing more and more and am curious if it's this generation coming up, is it a "Millenial" thing cause I know my generation wasn't like this nor my parents. Not accusing anyone of anything, just curious what some answers will be to this question. Thanks.

I'd make two observations:

1 - Wow players and gamers in general do not make an accurate representation of your typical Millennial.

2 - As we know, youth need to rebel and lash out against authority. We were all young once and it's like a right of passage, part of growing up. The authority figures today are your typical progressive SJWs. You see young people pushing back against them, creating memes to deride them, being edgy to upset them. So in your example although you pointed out something everyone hates such as botters, you took a moral stance against something therefore you became the 'bad guy'. Don't blame the millennials, it's just they have been subjected to an education system completely dominated by the progressive liberal left and they just need to rebel.

[I Push Buttons]

True, true. I don't complain about socialism myself, just don't think it can happen with how diverse people are these days. Not to be devil's advocate or go off topic but you can't fault old people for collecting social security, most of them spent their lives paying into that. I'm 45 and have paid into it and will most likely never see it once I hit 65+ but I digrees. Hypocrisy indeed.

Just felt weird to me because most people my age generally know when something is wrong and they will point it out but when I went to point out botting was wrong it was like I became the bad guy instead of them just saying "Yes, botting is wrong".

That's just how people are.

I know people (of all ages) who will literally get into heated arguments about nothing at all just because they MUST be right... A recent example from some guy I work with, he is probably in his mid 40s, if not 50s (he's pretty healthy, so I honestly can't tell)... He mispronounced the name of a company we were talking about and I just chimed in really quick, pronouncing it correctly... "THAT'S WHAT I FUCKING SAID!" ... "Nah you said *improper pronunciation*"... "NO I FUCKING DIDN'T!"

Its like the psyche takes any instance of being wrong as great shame and must avoid it at all cost, even if it means making a mountain out of molehill and a fool of one's self.

[Deleted]

Have a generic question, no stereotyping or anything, that I want to ask of the younger generation like low 20s or under.

because they're brats that weren't spanked hard enough as kids and now put themselves or others at risk. Blizzard is also at fault for removing soft measures to control these morons and putting in place a system that make the problem even worse.

The irony is that some bots make more competent and pleasant players.

[Deleted]

It wasn't anywhere near as bad at the start of WoW.
Who knows if it was because of the demographics of Warcraft fans instead of the mainstream masses or if it was because unconnected servers helped police players.

[CJMoffitt]

I agree with above replies.

[yetgdhfgh]

Has nothing to do with generational attitude changes. Has everything to do with young hotheaded males wanting to argue to establish themselves as alpha males. Becomes very apparent in World of Warcraft and other online games due to high representation of insecure young men who are unemployed or underemployed and still living with their parents and are as far from alpha status as one could possibly be IRL. But you see this kind of behavior among young males no matter the circumstances and across multiple species, not just humans.

Pretty much this

Iam 36 and iam at the age where everything is starting to go south for me and you really start to notice the behavior of young people and you see its just hormones and males trying to assert dominance like we are still in a troop of monkeys or some shit.

But i have experience so i can easily shoot down these little pubescent upstarts.

[Fafnar]

I agree with above replies.

Bot!
^^ seriously tho, some people really are just very bot-like, so hard to tell when you've got a bot or just somebody watching a movie while farming. If you claim to know the difference, people will disagree.

[yetgdhfgh]

Bot!
^^ seriously tho, some people really are just very bot-like, so hard to tell when you've got a bot or just somebody watching a movie while farming. If you claim to know the difference, people will disagree.

Sad life people must lead if they need to bot to agree with what they post on a forum dedicated to World of Warcraft!!

Also bleep blop bleep

[Hooked]

I'm banned from wow chat because of complaints.