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    Question Historical Figures who were perverts &/or Weirdos

    Do you know of any interesting historical figures (people who did something of historical value) but in their private lives were weirdos, creeps or perverts?

    For example John Harvey Kellog, the guy who made cereal was very anti-masturbation and would sew penises up to stop teens from wanking
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mokoshne View Post
    Do you know of any interesting historical figures (people who did something of historical value) but in their private lives were weirdos, creeps or perverts?

    For example John Harvey Kellog, the guy who made cereal was very anti-masturbation and would sew penises up to stop teens from wanking
    JEESUZ Hahaha, Yeah well people are very flawed, hell I don't have any heroes not on account of anybody not being good enough, but mostly because I don't know them, and that is important. I can separate a person from the things they have done most of the time, unless it's truly horrendous.

    Human beings are flawed and weak, which isn't an excuse but life is long and hard, pardon the pun and what not.

    I mean Martin Luther King Jr has more than a checkered past, everything from plagiarism to having extra marital affairs to well. However none of that shit matters, hell JFK was a womanizing sexual deviant according to some too. Bill Clinton got a hummer and lied about it, which I am not sure why he didn't just say mind your own business instead of lying.

    But anyways, no it doesn't tarnish what they did at least in the case of MLK Jr and JFK, because despite them being human beings, and maybe some of the Hero worship, they were both men who died fighting for causes that I admire and are fundamental to me.


    So pervert, being perfect, isn't really that important especially if a person lives long enough to realize life is rough.
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    I've heard things about the leader of the scouts movement (Powell...?) had pedophelic tendencies.

    Gil de Rais who was a companion of Joan of Arc wasn't just a pervert, he was deranged as it is estimated he brutally killed hundreds of children.

    And I'm sure it's going to come up anyway but the founder of my religion by today's standards isn't seen in the best light.

    Of course there are many more but off the top of my head.

    Oh and I've read about Gandhi and some of his eccentricities but I'm not sure whether it's true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mokoshne View Post
    Do you know of any interesting historical figures (people who did something of historical value) but in their private lives were weirdos, creeps or perverts?

    For example John Harvey Kellog, the guy who made cereal was very anti-masturbation and would sew penises up to stop teens from wanking
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    Nobunaga Oda, the dudeman who intended to unify/conquer the entirety of Japan, had a vassal named Ranmaru Mori.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wikipedia
    From an early age, Ranmaru was an attendant to Oda Nobunaga. Recognized for his talent, loyalty, and unusual beauty, he was appointed to a responsible post. At Ōmi, he was given 500 koku, and after Takeda Katsuyori's death, he was awarded the 50,000 koku at Iwamura Castle. Ranmaru and his younger brothers perished defending Oda Nobunaga during the Honnō-ji Incident. Ranmaru's bravery and devotion is remembered throughout history, and especially during the Edo period because of his decision to commit seppuku and follow Nobunaga in death.

    Oda and Mori's lord-vassal relationship was thought to have followed the nanshoku tradition - an intimate relationship - and was widely admired in Japan for its strength. In nanshoku literature of the Edo period, it was widely understood that Oda and Mori had a sexual relationship that was commonly found in those times.
    This sort of thing wasn't uncommon back then it seems. Weird by our standards though, for sure. World leaders and military generals with young men as sexual companions probably wouldn't fly in 2017. Not in public at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by More Wikipedia
    The Japanese term nanshoku (男色, which can also be read as danshoku) is the Japanese reading of the same characters in Chinese, which literally mean "male colors." The character 色 (color) has the meaning of sexual pleasure in China and Japan. This term was widely used to refer to some kind of male–male sex in a pre-modern era of Japan.
    Also, Sengoku-period Buddhist monks and later were known to get it on with acolytes. Formally, of course:

    Quote Originally Posted by Even more Wikipedia
    Nanshoku relationships inside monasteries were typically pederastic: an age-structured relationship where the younger partner is not considered adult. The older partner, or nonja ("lover" or "admirer"), would be a monk, priest or abbot, while the younger partner was assumed to be an acolyte (稚児 chigo), who would be a prepubescent or adolescent boy;[6] the relationship would be dissolved once the boy reached adulthood (or left the monastery). Both parties were encouraged to treat the relationship seriously and conduct the affair honorably, and the nenja might be required to write a formal vow of fidelity.[7] Outside of the monasteries, monks were considered to have a particular predilection for male prostitutes, which was the subject of much ribald humor.
    Seems like ancient Japanese ensured that their needs were met. Period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Assbandit View Post
    Gil de Rais who was a companion of Joan of Arc wasn't just a pervert, he was deranged as it is estimated he brutally killed hundreds of children.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wikipedia
    In his confession, Gilles mentioned the first assaults on children occurred between spring 1432 and spring 1433.[27] The first murders occurred at Champtocé-sur-Loire; however, no account of these murders survived.[28] Shortly after, Gilles moved to Machecoul where, as the record of his confession states, he killed, or ordered to be killed, a great but uncertain number of children after he sodomized them.[28] Forty naked bodies of children were discovered in Machecoul in 1437.[28]
    That's some fucked up shit. Also LOL your username.
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    Donatien Alphonse François, Marquis de Sade
    Sade lived a scandalous libertine existence and repeatedly procured young prostitutes as well as employees of both sexes in his castle in Lacoste. He was also accused of blasphemy, a serious offense at that time. His behavior included an affair with his wife's sister, Anne-Prospère, who had come to live at the castle. Sade was jailed for sexual atrocities against women, which includes the same rape and torture that inspired his pornographic writing.
    Beginning in 1763, Sade lived mainly in or near Paris. Several prostitutes there complained about mistreatment by him and he was put under surveillance by the police, who made detailed reports of his activities. After several short imprisonments, which included a brief incarceration in the Château de Saumur (then a prison), he was exiled to his château at Lacoste in 1768.
    The first major scandal occurred on Easter Sunday in 1768, in which Sade procured the services of a woman, Rose Keller, a widow-beggar who approached him for alms. He told her she could make money by working for him—she understood her work to be that of a housekeeper. At his chateau at Arcueil, Sade ripped her clothes off, threw her on a divan and tied her by the four limbs. Then he whipped her, made various incisions on her body into which he poured hot wax, and then beat her. He repeated this process seven or eight times, when she finally escaped by climbing out of a second-floor window and running away. At this time, la Présidente, Sade's mother-in-law, obtained a lettre de cachet (a royal order of arrest and imprisonment, without stated cause or access to the courts) from the King, excluding Sade from the jurisdiction of the courts. The lettre de cachet would later prove disastrous for the marquis.
    In 1772, an episode in Marseille involved the non-lethal incapacitating of prostitutes with the supposed aphrodisiac Spanish fly and sodomy with Latour, his manservant. That year, the two men were sentenced to death in absentia for sodomy and the poisoning. They fled to Italy, Sade taking his wife's sister with him. Sade and Latour were caught and imprisoned at the Fortress of Miolans in late 1772, but escaped four months later.
    Sade later hid at Lacoste, where he rejoined his wife, who became an accomplice in his subsequent endeavors. He kept a group of young employees at Lacoste, most of whom complained about sexual mistreatment and quickly left his service. Sade was forced to flee to Italy once again. It was during this time he wrote Voyage d'Italie. In 1776, he returned to Lacoste, again hired several servant girls, most of whom fled. In 1777, the father of one of those employees went to Lacoste to claim his daughter, and attempted to shoot the Marquis at point-blank range, but the gun misfired.
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    "What's perversion to some is ecstasy to others."

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    There are a few people I can think of off the top of my head.

    Like, Charles Lutwidge Dodgson, also known as Lewis Carroll, was a suspected paedophile (or had at the least paedophilic tendencies) given his writings and his preference for drawing and photographing children in the nude.

    Benjamin Franklin had a thing for old women. (See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advice...ing_a_Mistress)

    George Gordon Byron, aka the 6th Baron Byron, aka Lord Byron, was another bloke who had a thing for sleeping with literally anything with a pulse. He also collected pubic hair.

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    Mohammad... but everybody knows that one already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skitzin View Post
    There are a few people I can think of off the top of my head.

    Like, Charles Lutwidge Dodgson, also known as Lewis Carroll, was a suspected paedophile (or had at the least paedophilic tendencies) given his writings and his preference for drawing and photographing children in the nude.

    Benjamin Franklin had a thing for old women. (See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advice...ing_a_Mistress)

    George Gordon Byron, aka the 6th Baron Byron, aka Lord Byron, was another bloke who had a thing for sleeping with literally anything with a pulse. He also collected pubic hair.
    It wasn't exactly older women for Franklin but ANY woman.

    Dude went through France like a pudgy flesh tsunami.

    Einstein demanded a loveless open marriage of his first wife and was a well known playboy.

    I suppose Caligula is kind of a given.

    Will and Jada smith have an open relationship - though that's more just a fun fact than weird or perverse these days.

    Masters and Johnson got it on a lot as did Kinsey. Something about being a sex researcher lends itself to field work I suppose.

    Dorothy Parker when asked by her publisher why a book wasn't ready sent back a telegraph reply that said "too fucking busy and vice versa." Always found that hot.

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    You'd be hard-pressed to find a person in this world, good or evil, without a vice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shelly View Post
    It wasn't exactly older women for Franklin but ANY woman.
    True. But if you read the link I posted with that comment it says that Franklin "lists seven reasons why an older mistress is preferable to a young one." Guy clearly had a prefference for the oldies.

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