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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Seiko Sora View Post
    American government using a dying child for good PR.
    Dont forget the doctors that try to milk this tragedy for that sweet money.

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Astalnar View Post
    We have a word for people who kill out of their percieved sense of "mercy", they're psychopats, serial killers. And to cheer them on is downright insane. How twisted and perverted must you be to think that killing someone is in their own best interest?
    So you want to turtore a kid that can never have a life.

    A kid that:

    Can NOT move
    Can NOT see
    Can NOT hear
    Can NOT breath
    All while also being brain damaged.

    If that is a life you wish for yourself, I honostly hope it happens to you.

    But don't fucking turtore an innocent kid, that has no possibility of ever getting a life.

    No one wants to kill Charlie.. We just don't want to prolong this turtore of a little kid (by keeping him artificially alive), that you are advocating because of some misguides morals / feelings.
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  3. #23
    EU cucks getting triggered is the best way to start a day.

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    EU cucks getting triggered is the best way to start a day.
    Nah people in the EU aren't triggered, just amazed in wonder how a kid from the UK will get healthcare in the US while a majority of the people in the US themselves soon won't anymore

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deruyter View Post
    Nah people in the EU aren't triggered, just amazed in wonder how a kid from the UK will get healthcare in the US while a majority of the people in the US themselves soon won't anymore


    Was just thinking this myself.......... What a stupid fucked up administration we have atm....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astalnar View Post
    You're missing the point. We're all going to die anyway, so why even get out of bed and eat at all. This is that the British doctors, british courts, and European Court decided. The state has no right to decide over an innocent's life or death. We should never permit it, we should never tolerate it, and we should always oppose it. Nobody should have power over an individual's life, especially if the one you want to kill, is innocent of any crime.

    We have a word for people who kill out of their percieved sense of "mercy", they're psychopats, serial killers. And to cheer them on is downright insane. How twisted and perverted must you be to think that killing someone is in their own best interest?
    You are a misguided fool who speaks of the state being not allowed to decide upon life while it does it daily, while at the same time not realizing that the state deciding to continue life support as there's no mention of treatment anymore at this point is deciding every day over his life. But i guess that's what happens when you are so blind that you don't look at the elements in front of you and merely judge things based on believes and face value.

    The truth is if the state was not involved at all the child would have died a normal death a long time ago. There's a word out there for people like you, religious masochists, cancers on this planet, who find their moral values are worth more than anything, people like you have only one right place and that's hammered to a cross next to your precious monster of a so called god. Since that's what religion is these days a way to tell us suffering is good and we should embrace it. It's no wonder there are so many pedophiles in the church considering how child suffering is good thing, something you even advocate.

    Anyway not going to waste more time then this, ignorance is a requirement on your end after all.

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  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Deruyter View Post
    Nah people in the EU aren't triggered, just amazed in wonder how a kid from the UK will get healthcare in the US while a majority of the people in the US themselves soon won't anymore
    He has a pre-existing condition, so he shouldn't get healthcare according to the same people who just voted to bring him to the US...

  8. #28
    It's a very nasty area to be in. I personally was in a situation where one of my children was hours away from death - it sure is fuck not a nice place to be in. At all. You are so fucking helpless and you have others telling you the worse, it's astounding how somehow you still function and be coherent, I personally went into a form of denial and inability to register that he was so gravely ill so I could help my other son be fed and such. Fortunately for me, they perceived and saved my son but I can sympathise a little.

    But what people are forgetting is, without trying there is no progress. If these experimental treatments actually work then it's a possibility for the future, even if they don't work for that illness and so on it can be reused elsewhere. Good examples are old diabetic drugs which actually help keep epilepsy at bay thus a new way of doctoring for that illness and recycling research for better means.

    Things with a medical standpoint can't really advance without progress somewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deruyter View Post
    Nah people in the EU aren't triggered, just amazed in wonder how a kid from the UK will get healthcare in the US while a majority of the people in the US themselves soon won't anymore
    From what I've been told the parentd were willing to pay for the treatment. US healtchare may have a lot of problems, but if you have the money its one of the best systems.

  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Seiko Sora View Post
    And who will pay for his long term care if the treatment prolongs his life?
    Mercia!.......

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    Yes, lets prolong the suffering of the childs as much as possible.

  12. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Quibble View Post
    So you want to turtore a kid that can never have a life.

    A kid that:

    Can NOT move
    Can NOT see
    Can NOT hear
    Can NOT breath
    All while also being brain damaged.

    If that is a life you wish for yourself, I honostly hope it happens to you.

    But don't fucking turtore an innocent kid, that has no possibility of ever getting a life.

    No one wants to kill Charlie.. We just don't want to prolong this turtore of a little kid, that you are advocating because of some misguides morals / feelings.
    Just because his condition can't be 100% reversed right now it doesn't mean that in the next 20-30 years there won't be another medical breakthrough that will allow to restore his body's 100% functionality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilfire View Post
    Just because his condition can't be 100% reversed right now it doesn't mean that in the next 20-30 years there won't be another medical breakthrough that will allow to restore his body's 100% functionality.
    Good luck fixing brain damage

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    Best case scenario is the plane transporting the kid crashes. Stops the suffering and kills the people responsible for it.

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    The kid is braindead, has no motor functions due to no brain activity, blind, deaf and will die due to being terminal. Sad as it is for anyone to lose a loved one this child has NO chance at life whatsoever and his suffering should stop.

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    Why does he get special treatment? This shits all over the people who got citizenship as they should, taking years, paying exorbitant fees, and still possibly being denied at a bureaucrats whim. We have to restrict foreigners from coming in and rabblerabblerabble. SAD! #maga #immigrationhurts #PREXISTINGCONDITIONLOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangeliste View Post
    It's a very nasty area to be in. I personally was in a situation where one of my children was hours away from death - it sure is fuck not a nice place to be in. At all. You are so fucking helpless and you have others telling you the worse, it's astounding how somehow you still function and be coherent, I personally went into a form of denial and inability to register that he was so gravely ill so I could help my other son be fed and such. Fortunately for me, they perceived and saved my son but I can sympathise a little.

    But what people are forgetting is, without trying there is no progress. If these experimental treatments actually work then it's a possibility for the future, even if they don't work for that illness and so on it can be reused elsewhere. Good examples are old diabetic drugs which actually help keep epilepsy at bay thus a new way of doctoring for that illness and recycling research for better means.

    Things with a medical standpoint can't really advance without progress somewhere.

    If there was a chance it would help him I would be ok with it. EVERY DOCTOR involved has already said there is no chance at saving him. The best they can do is prolong the state he is in. In which case if the parents want to keep him alive THEY need to pay for it. If there was actually a chance at saving him I wouldn't feel that way.

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    At this point Baby Charlie had better turn out to be the fucking second coming of Jesus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Astalnar View Post
    It certainly beats: "Let's kill that baby who might have a couple of more months to live, because we decided he's not worth our time, and neither will we allow anyone the chance to save him, because it would make us look bad."
    No it doesn't, not even close. i suggest you read the full case file because it looks like you didn't.
    He has been worth "our" time for as long as he has lived, he has a degenerative disease that can NOT be cured, not by the UK or any other specialist anywhere.

    the disease is killing him and soon, this is hard to cope with for the parents yes, but he is in a state now where there is 0% prospect of any meaningful recovery.
    - severe brain damage
    - can not see
    - can not move
    - can not vocally express anything.
    - is to the opinion of all experts that tried their utmost to save him in pain daily.

    the Experimental treatment the USA specialist offered does NOT cure him, it may prolong his life by a few months or it may not.
    there is no chance of him "beating" this, there may be a very slight chance at a say a 1% recovery state back from the already sustained damage.

    so tell me again which of us is the psychopath for wanting to give that baby an end to his suffering, or someone like you who wants to prolong,for no meaningful recovery whatsoever, his suffering for PR points

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    Guess people will do anything to get some exposure and short-lived fame.

    I can see the title "Braindead child whose brave hero parents have been fighting evul wannabe commie government of UK is saved by the best country in the world, US of A." *'Murica, fuck yeah plays in the background*

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