Charlie Gard potentially granted US residency by congress to fly to US for treatment!

[Deleted]

I thought we were all the dark ages over here. Under educated, no care, stupidest people on the planet next to the greatest continent of all things.

Not sure why anyone would say that. American healthcare can be problematic to afford, yes - but if you can, it's actually really quite good.

[Low Hanging Fruit]

He's already severely brain damaged, he's not coming here to get cured. He's coming here to have his suffering prolonged.

Well that is pretty much the parents choice is it not? I would just stop writting about it becuase its not much of a story. I mean parents make choice to keep child alive as long as possible out of love even though it might be a little cruel to those without a purely objective eye and not having an idea in hell what that is like to deal with. Right.. sounds.. normal.

[Wildtree]

He on Obamacare now, that cover pre existing. He is even eligible for a new little phone!

The phone is a Bush program, just saying.

[Low Hanging Fruit]

Not sure why anyone would say that. American healthcare can be problematic to afford, yes - but if you can, it's actually really quite good.

You are right. Why would anyone say that. But when you gander these forums for very long.. lol.. you hear it almost like 10 times a day.5

[Gorsameth]

Why do Europeans fly to America for healthcare. I thought we were all the dark ages over here. Under educated, no care, stupidest people on the planet next to the greatest continent of all things.

Because American doctors are willing to do anything you ask of them solong as you pay them.

European doctors say "Sorry there is nothing we can do for him"
US doctor says "Sure I can try this treatment that has not been tested on his condition and which has no chance of helping him (his brain damage is to severe) if you pay me a million dollars".

[Wildtree]

Why do Europeans fly to America for healthcare. I thought we were all the dark ages over here. Under educated, no care, stupidest people on the planet next to the greatest continent of all things.

He doesn't come for healthcare, he comes for treatment.
Otherwise, no one here asked for your personal portfolio.

[Orby]

I never want to be a in this position as a parent, I tear up just thinking about that kid

[Evangeliste]

If there was a chance it would help him I would be ok with it. EVERY DOCTOR involved has already said there is no chance at saving him. The best they can do is prolong the state he is in. In which case if the parents want to keep him alive THEY need to pay for it. If there was actually a chance at saving him I wouldn't feel that way.

That kind of attitude really is like, why take medication to help with the seizures for Epilepsy even though it's incurable. You will still die with it.
You're also saying that beforehand we shouldn't have done drug trials for those medicines on Epilepsy that people use nowadays because there was no guarantee they would help either, the knowledge didn't just pop out of thin air prior, it was discovered.
Here in the UK, the nation provides for the NHS and taxation. That means others pay for others medication and so on. Should that revoked because again there's incurable illnesses so why bother trying to relieve people's suffering and/or improve their condition?

The specialist told the High Court nucleoside therapy has a 10 per cent chance of improving Charlie's condition, adding his research “clearly indicates” it reduces muscle weakness in patients with a similar genetic disorder.

Not sure how 10% chance translate to "every doctor said there's no chance". Because that's what medication for Epilepsy does, improves their condition. So they don't have a potential seizure that can possibly kill them.

Why is one Epilepsy deemed worthy of being improved upon and this child suffering from a rare disease not? Both individuals will with that illness, neither is incurable.

At the end, it's a dirty grey area. Too many variables but it shouldn't be denounced when simply others like it are treated and still are, being improved upon and advancing the way they are medicated for. What is stupid is the whole charade of it all, they shouldn't have to have a massive court battle over it.

[Gorsameth]

Well that is pretty much the parents choice is it not? I would just stop writting about it becuase its not much of a story. I mean parents make choice to keep child alive as long as possible out of love even though it might be a little cruel to those without a purely objective eye and not having an idea in hell what that is like to deal with. Right.. sounds.. normal.

an objective eye? wtf
There is no objective view that says this treatment is a good idea.

Yes I feel for the parents, and I understand why they are willing to go to any lenght to try and drag his life out for a few more minutes but that is in no way an objective view.
There is no cure for his condition, the one being offered by the US doctor is for an entirely different variant. His condition is so bad that recovery to any conscious state is nigh impossible.

This is a US doctor exploiting the emotional state of a parent to make $$. Nothing more.

[Low Hanging Fruit]

He doesn't come for healthcare, he comes for treatment.
Otherwise, no one here asked for your personal portfolio.

Internet keyboard hero. He so tough. He so brave!

Internet keyboard hero.

When he speaks no one care.

When he hears this song he reponds!

...no but you!!

Internet keyboard hero!

[Medusa Cascade]

You are right. Why would anyone say that. But when you gander these forums for very long.. lol.. you hear it almost like 10 times a day.5

Europe is also an Islamic state and Communist according to some so chill bro

[ls-]

I know right.
The sad part is, how there are so many uninformed, wrongly educated people buying into his crap.

TBQH, I'm quite sure that that's the only reason why this whole thing (involvement of congress, etc, not the kid himself) is happening. Huge PR stunt to promote Trumpcare (by bashing single-payer healthcare) or repeal of Obamacare at the expense of braindead child's life.

[Low Hanging Fruit]

Europe is also an Islamic state and Communist according to some so chill bro

Hate is usually responded to with hate. That is the reality of the internet.

[Wildtree]

Internet keyboard hero. He so tough. He so brave!

Internet keyboard hero.

When he speaks no one care.

When he hears this song he reponds!

...no but you!!

Internet keyboard hero!

You make absolutely no sense.
You come into this thread where people tried to engage in a productive discussion, and you utterly try to derail it with your stupid hate mongering and nation/continent bashing.
That is, to say the least, not even remotely intelligent.

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TBQH, I'm quite sure that that's the only reason why this whole thing (involvement of congress, etc, not the kid himself) is happening. Huge PR stunt to promote Trumpcare and/or single-payer healthcare or simply repeal of Obamacare at the expense of braindead child's life.

I think, you got it nailed.

[Low Hanging Fruit]

You make absolutely no sense.
You come into this thread where people tried to engage in a productive discussion, and you utterly try to derail it with your stupid hate mongering and nation/continent bashing.
That is, to say the least, not even remotely intelligent.

Well I am glad you came in here with your PHD in hand and physiological superiority well in hand. So adult and mature that you engaged with the person discussing in a different manner than yours simply because you cannot just disagree but have to attack the person directly and then spin it into a maturity / intelligent conversation that has nothing to do with the topic either.

You walked the path I set forth. Welcome. Internet keyboard hero. The rails are this way.

[GennGreymane]

You are a misguided fool who speaks of the state being not allowed to decide upon life while it does it daily, while at the same time not realizing that the state deciding to continue life support as there's no mention of treatment anymore at this point is deciding every day over his life. But i guess that's what happens when you are so blind that you don't look at the elements in front of you and merely judge things based on believes and face value.

The truth is if the state was not involved at all the child would have died a normal death a long time ago. There's a word out there for people like you, religious masochists, cancers on this planet, who find their moral values are worth more than anything, people like you have only one right place and that's hammered to a cross next to your precious monster of a so called god. Since that's what religion is these days a way to tell us suffering is good and we should embrace it. It's no wonder there are so many pedophiles in the church considering how child suffering is good thing, something you even advocate.

Anyway not going to waste more time then this, ignorance is a requirement on your end after all.

Jeeeeeezzzzuuuusss I am of a like mind about religion, but this is venomous

[Gorsameth]

TBQH, I'm quite sure that that's the only reason why this whole thing (involvement of congress, etc, not the kid himself) is happening. Huge PR stunt to promote Trumpcare and/or single-payer healthcare or simply repeal of Obamacare at the expense of braindead child's life.

Step 1 would be this story being real. And thats still up in the air. Only useless tabloids have reported it sofar.

[GennGreymane]

Well I am glad you came in here with your PHD in hand and physiological superiority well in hand. So adult and mature that you engaged with the person discussing in a different manner than yours simply because you cannot just disagree but have to attack the person directly and then spin it into a maturity / intelligent conversation that has nothing to do with the topic either.

You walked the path I set forth. Welcome. Internet keyboard hero. The rails are this way.

So you gonna be productive or keep acting up?

[Medusa Cascade]

Step 1 would be this story being real. And thats still up in the air. Only useless tabloids have reported it sofar.

https://twitter.com/JeffFortenberry/...19349572747265

[GennGreymane]

they are literally going to torture a kid for a few months for good PR. And people will love it.