Last edited by Quibble; 2017-07-19 at 09:03 AM.
"Everything always changes. The best plan lasts until the first arrow leaves the bow." - Matrim Cauthon
What on earth are you talking about? It does happen all the time otherwise we wouldn't have multiple threads about incidents like this on a near daily basis.
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How in the fuck would this be made any less of an issue if it was an accident? If anything that is worse.
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Incidents that didn't need to happen and were completely preventable.
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Uh...what? Convenience stores are robbed all the time.
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Are you for real? Reducing gun related deaths is the whole fucking point of gun control.
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Stop making excuses for incompetent cops. Cops are supposed to be trained to prevent "accidents" like this. Whether it was an accident or not they need to be held accountable.
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You do understand we can see your post history right? you have posts in many of these kinds of threads which yes do happen frequently.
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And you don't investigate assaults by immediately shooting the first person you see. Come on.
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What exactly is it you think cops are trained to do?
That is not how it is with Greenland and Denmark. Denmark does not see Greenland as part of Denmark, it sees it as part of the Kingdom of Denmark, so its the state that decides on the matter, not some random individuals thinking they have another culture than everyone around them.
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Of course not, and if they did then it should get them mental help and their supervisors a prison sentence for failing to make sure the armed individuals they sent out had appropriate training. Just throwing the book at the cops who happened to be sent into the street untrained will not help change the system, one must make sure that those responsible for the training and deployment get to feel the heat, too.
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These ones?
Probably to panik on the drop of a hat and shoot up everything that moves and several things that don't.
Otherwise we wouldn't have these kinds of news this frequently.
If something happens with such frequency then it's obviously a systemic shortcoming and not only an individual one.
(Which does not mean that I excuse the ones directly involved from their part of the blame.)
Why are people downplaying the ethnic factor? It's not like cops haven't committed ethnic-based violence before.
To both of you. The problem is not ethnicity, its how the cops are trained in America. You could draw a shitload of lines to make this thing about ethnicity but that doesn't change the fact that cops, who are supposed to be trained invidividuals, are doing something that is not supposed to happen.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-1...am-off/8721098
some decent info and questions
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Maybe she looked like Robert Downey Jr from Tropic Thunder...
I would argue there can be some value in a full compiled list for the same reason you stated its rather meaningless. Sure a raw numerical value might not tell you anything as far as comparison to your peers (by your definition of developed Western nations of reasonable size), but if you have the full list it gives you a good snapshot of who your peers actually are (what countries you find yourself comparable to.
For example being near the bottom of the 'developed Western world' can be a negative, but a full list gives you more context. Are you close to the rest but simply happen to be the one slightly below? Or are you in fact substantially lower? And so on. The difference between "Here's 12 luxury cars, but this one has a flat tire" and "Here's 12 luxury cars, but this one has no engine and is actively on fire."
Yeah it's looking like it wasn't an accident or from fear and something else was up.
Harrity, the squad car driver, was speaking to Damon who was stood outside the car window when Noor leaned across him and opened fire. Noor shot multiple times, hitting Damon once in the abdomen. She died at 11.51pm from the gunshot wound, the autopsy revealed.
Harrity was reportedly 'stunned' by his partner's actions.
There are only 3 possibilities why this happened: negligence, murder or self defense. Even with the scant details we have we know it was in no way done in self defense leaving the other 2 possibilities neither of which are remotely acceptable. These cops need to be held accountable. Period. End of story.
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Some of the most appalling things cops have been done has been fueled by bias based on ethnicity of whoever they are interacting with and there is ample evidence of this. Stop trying to sweep this under the rug. It just isn't going to happen.
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The problem absolutely is ethnicity because it is why some cops treat people differently many times at the expense of their training.
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So why do we get numerous threads like this every week? I don't need to back anything up here. Go look at your own fucking post history and count up how many of these incidents have happened recently because you have posted in pretty much all of them all saying the same bullshit that this doesn't happen often. That is either stupidity or trolling or both.
While I won't claim that racial tensions don't exacerbate that, you're right; the issue is officer training. Police officers should be de-escalating situations, not stepping up and initiating violence themselves. If someone's life is actually at risk, sure, lethal force is justifiable, but especially in the USA, you need something more than "that guy is armed" to say anyone's life is at risk; it's a citizen's right to be armed, in America. Not that that's even relevant, here, since this lady doesn't appear to have been armed or to have done a damned thing.
This officer should face first degree murder charges, and face the highest punishments available under the law. If his partner doesn't freely and openly contribute to the investigation against the shooter, he should be summarily discharged, and potentially charged as an accessory.
1. Teaching meditation doens't make someone a cult leader.
2. Being a cult leader doesn't justify opening fire on an unarmed non-threatening citizen
What is truly egregious here isn't just the fact that an innocent person was killed but the fact it was the person who made the call to the police in the first place. Stop downplaying this and attempting to justify it. This is 100% unacceptable behavior.