[Spoilers] 7.3 Blood elf discussion.

[Aucald]

You said Trolls would outnumber Forsaken, Blood Elves and maybe even Orcs.

I would actually put Trolls and Forsaken at around the same number, both probably outnumbering Blood Elves by thin margins. I also said most of this was speculation and guesswork - so it's entirely possible that I'm wrong, that you're wrong, or that we're both wrong.

They went crazy, got killed by Gnomes, didn't join the Horde with the rest of the Bilgewater Cartel.

Yes, but the point was that there were other boats - and that Gallywix's steamer was not the only means off of Kezan.

[Zulkhan]

in one of the forsaken starting zone quests, they say they have been raising hundreds daily. So I assume Dethknell is old or was converted into a mass grave.

Maybe the better question is, how many of those raised corpses stick with the Forsaken? If we try and pretend to use the 3 examples of in-game Deathknell as wider indication of the phenomenon on full scale, someone would conclude that only 1/3 actually join the Forsaken, 1/3 being braindead useless and the last 1/3 made of "sane" undead that simply part ways.

Of course is a mere over-simplified assumption but all things considered is fair enough.

[steelballfc]

Maybe the better question is, how many of those raised corpses stick with the Forsaken? If we try and pretend to use the 3 examples of in-game Deathknell as wider indication of the phenomenon on full scale, someone would conclude that only 1/3 actually join the Forsaken, 1/3 being braindead useless and the last 1/3 made of "sane" undead that simply part ways.

Of course is a mere over-simplified assumption but all things considered is fair enougj.

wait, do we consider the undead "citizen" free will ? or part of the grand forsaken ?

[Mehrunes]

I always found weird if not outright amusing how the murlocs of the Darkspear islands seemed to pose a greater threat than the Naga lackeys Zar'jira brought on the Echo Isles. Murlocs were able (combined with the humans landing there at the same time) to push the Darkspear on the edge while also defeating Thrall, part of his Horde foces and even a remnant of human forces at basically the same time. On the other hand, Naga were absolutely destroyed by the Darkspear back in Cataclysm, leading to the very end of Zar'jira. I'm not sure if that's due to murlocs being numerous as fuck compared to the Naga forces of Zar'jira or if those murlocs were driven into some insane frenzy of sort. Probably a combination of both, I assume.

I'd say the Horde giving them quality weapons so they wouldn't have to fight with sticks glued together with their feces anymore (a shame it didn't catch on in terms of their architecture) was also a contributing factor.

[Zulkhan]

I'd say the Horde giving them quality weapons so they wouldn't have to fight with sticks glued together with their feces anymore (a shame it didn't catch on in terms of their architecture) was also a contributing factor.

Considered how murlocs stomped Thrall's forces just as easily back in the isles, I doubt that was the actual issue.

[CaptainV]

That's a guarantee, especially now that she's going to screw up with the Void at some point.

Vereesa will surely look all the more useless of the Windrunner sisters now. Heck, if she was created was clearly to compensate Alleria's MIA status. With both the relevant sisters back into action Vereesa has barely no reason to exist anymore. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if she would be killed off just for drama, ultimately ending the massacre of Knaak's most despised characters.

Calling it first, Vareesa will be killed by Sylvanas by accident, likely trying to stop her killing someone else (Genn) which will send Alleria into a rage and "fuck the horde" mentality she had before in WC2.

[Mehrunes]

Maybe the better question is, how many of those raised corpses stick with the Forsaken? If we try and pretend to use the 3 examples of in-game Deathknell as wider indication of the phenomenon on full scale, someone would conclude that only 1/3 actually join the Forsaken, 1/3 being braindead useless and the last 1/3 made of "sane" undead that simply part ways.

Of course is a mere over-simplified assumption but all things considered is fair enough.

IIRC the statement was about reinforcements, so I'm not sure they'd count those who didn't join the Forsaken in that context.

[Friendlyimmolation]

Calling it first, Vareesa will be killed by Sylvanas by accident, likely trying to stop her killing someone else (Genn) which will send Alleria into a rage and "fuck the horde" mentality she had before in WC2.

Vereesa would probably side with Sylvanas 9 times out of 10 it disputes. So I don't think she would come between her and Genn.

[Mehrunes]

Considered how murlocs stomped Thrall's forces just as easily back in the isles, I doubt that was the actual issue.

Eh, they were mostly guerilla forces and later Orcs from internment uprising. I wouldn't say they had the access to the best weapons at that point in time either.

[Evaddon]

Late to the thread, its 30+ pages in. What are we talking about now?

[steelballfc]

Late to the thread, its 30+ pages in. What are we talking about now?

murloc sleeping with slyv and her sister

[Arrashi]

murloc sleeping with slyv and her sister

He sleeps with them one by one or all at once ?

[steelballfc]

He sleeps with them one by one or all at once ?

he watch's them fighting each other, the last standing sister own him.

[Rhlor]

New animation archer blood elf hunter.
Look those eyes look golden

[Zulkhan]

IIRC the statement was about reinforcements, so I'm not sure they'd count those who didn't join the Forsaken in that context.

I can't remember if there's anything more, all I remember is this quest, which not only mentions the mere raising of corpses on a daily basis but the whole point of the quest circle around the fact that among them there are many that are not as lucky as the Forsaken PC, they go completely bonkers and need to be put down.

[CaptainV]

Vereesa would probably side with Sylvanas 9 times out of 10 it disputes. So I don't think she would come between her and Genn.

Tell that to Sylvanas when Vareesa rejected her offer of joining her in undeath.

[Friendlyimmolation]

Tell that to Sylvanas when Vareesa rejected her offer of joining her in undeath.

Which means nothing about what I said, Vereesa was reminded she has children. she didnt hate sylvanas etc.

[Rhlor]

[derpkitteh]

those animations look wonderful. best in the game.

so glad i went belf on my hunter.

[Koryn123]

I like the gun and crossbow ones fine, but gonna miss the bow ones.