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    He will probaby have a Grommash skin... mechanic-wise they are pretty much the same anyway.

    I'd say he will be a warrior hero.
    His QWE will be some warrior abilities; most probably "bleed" oriented.
    His Rs will be:
    - a self-empower (most probably Sha empowerment)
    - an iron star

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    Yrel could be an assassin with a ret paladin theme.
    Please take this idea, kill it, burn it's remains and burry it in hallowed ground, so it never returns again.
    We want an ashbringer, not this russian-accent marry-sure.

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    Happy to see Garrosh again, both because we'll be able to crush people with a Warrior's might and Gorehowl, and because we can have another arena for kicking his racist butt over and over again! ^_^
    I wouldn't exactly call him racist...
    He never had any issues with other breeds of orcs after all.
    He's just as racist you are, when you kill a mosquito. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charge me Doctor View Post
    Yes, he is a bard, a rockstar, he was designed as suck, but E.T.C is not Garrosh. Garrosh is a warleader and "a politician", but not a fucking bard that inspires troops. It's just ridiculous.

    If anything he should be closer to assmodan with summoning of troops and catapults if they want to make his a specialist.
    What are you talking about?

    Leading charges with an axe in hand and letting out warcries to inspire soldiers is as Orc as you can get.

    Garrosh acted like this in Warcraft, on several different occasions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zmago View Post
    Please take this idea, kill it, burn it's remains and burry it in hallowed ground, so it never returns again.
    We want an ashbringer, not this russian-accent marry-sure.
    I'd take that "russian-accent marry-sue" over literally every other Paladin in the game except Dezco, Aponi, and (maybe) Tirion.

    She's that much more enjoyable than them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by De Lupe View Post
    I'd take that "russian-accent marry-sue" over literally every other Paladin in the game except Dezco, Aponi, and (maybe) Tirion.

    She's that much more enjoyable than them.
    Either Tirion or his predecessor should be the retribution paladin of HotS.
    For one Yrell was never a retribution paladin to start with. Most of the time she was shown carrying a shield.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralqadar View Post
    What are you talking about?

    Leading charges with an axe in hand and letting out warcries to inspire soldiers is as Orc as you can get.

    Garrosh acted like this in Warcraft, on several different occasions.
    That sounds like a legendary skin for ETC, not as new character honestly
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zmago View Post
    Either Tirion or his predecessor should be the retribution paladin of HotS.
    For one Yrell was never a retribution paladin to start with. Most of the time she was shown carrying a shield.
    If it weren't for the fact that we'd have yet another human character in the game, I'd be perfectly fine with Tirion. (Okay, honestly, I'd be fine with Tirion regardless, but that's besides the point.)

    We need a Dreanei. Yrel is, whether you like it or not, a prominent Dreanei lore figure with Velen probably being the only one above her at this point. I do see Velen getting in before her as he gives us our first Priest character as opposed to Yrel giving us a second Paladin character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by De Lupe View Post
    If it weren't for the fact that we'd have yet another human character in the game, I'd be perfectly fine with Tirion. (Okay, honestly, I'd be fine with Tirion regardless, but that's besides the point.)

    We need a Dreanei. Yrel is, whether you like it or not, a prominent Dreanei lore figure with Velen probably being the only one above her at this point. I do see Velen getting in before her as he gives us our first Priest character as opposed to Yrel giving us a second Paladin character.
    You sure about that? Do we really need a Dreanei? I think hots can do without them. #weneedmoregnomesinhots
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charge me Doctor View Post
    That sounds like a legendary skin for ETC, not as new character honestly
    Not really, it sounds like Garrosh Hellscream.

    Just look at phase 1 of his fight from SoO. He summoned adds that fought for him and he buffed them with his WARSONG, his battle cries. Even the ironstar mechanic was from other soldiers. Of course there's the Sha axe mechanic but that is not the iconic Hellscream. Running into battle with the axe held high and war cries bellowing from the mouth is the essence of both Garrosh and Grommash. Most of the time this was with an army, or a group of raiders at their back.

    I guess I should have made this more clear in my original post: Garrosh (if they are going to be true to his character.) will be an aggressive character who uses Warcries. This could be a Warrior, this could be an Assassin, this could even be a specialist if the Warcries are the focal point.

    I mean hell they could even make him all about those Warcries and summoning Ironstars, and orc raiding parties. (though I fear they would be too much like Zegara's Banelings and her other Zerg.) I just feel everyone is looking at this as very one dimensional, "Orc with Axe, he must be a Warrior or Assassin." When there are tons of things to pull from that are unique to the Hellscream line, and some to Garrosh himself that set him apart from your average axe wielding orc.

    If Blizzard wanted to make an orc grunt basic warrior orc they would have just pulled a Sergeant Hammer and made some basic orcish warrior with a special name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charge me Doctor View Post
    You sure about that? Do we really need a Dreanei? I think hots can do without them. #weneedmoregnomesinhots
    Goblin - Gazlowe
    Tauren - ETC
    Human - Varian, Jaina, Uther
    Troll - Zul'Jin
    Worgen - Greymane
    Forsaken - Sylvanas and Stitches
    Pandaren - Li Li and Chen
    Orc - Thrall, Samuro, Gul'Dan, Garrosh, and Rehgar
    Gnome - Chromie (technically a dragon, but she's taken Gnome form, so she counts at least partially.)
    Night Elf - Tyrande, Illidan, and Tyrande
    Blood Elf - Kael'Thas and Valeera

    Dreanei -

    Yes, we need a Dreanei.

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    Quote Originally Posted by De Lupe View Post
    Goblin - Gazlowe
    Tauren - ETC
    Human - Varian, Jaina, Uther
    Troll - Zul'Jin
    Worgen - Greymane
    Forsaken - Sylvanas and Stitches
    Pandaren - Li Li and Chen
    Orc - Thrall, Samuro, Gul'Dan, Garrosh, and Rehgar
    Gnome - Chromie (technically a dragon, but she's taken Gnome form, so she counts at least partially.)
    Night Elf - Tyrande, Illidan, and Tyrande
    Blood Elf - Kael'Thas and Valeera

    Dreanei -

    Yes, we need a Dreanei.
    No, she doesn't count. She is not a gnome. If you want to follow this road - protoss are your dreanei
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    If we have to get other Warcraft paladin the order of inclusion should be Tirion > Turalyon > Maraad > Lady Liadrin > Quin'thalan Sunfire > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paladin Murky > Yrel

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralqadar View Post
    Not really, it sounds like Garrosh Hellscream.
    No, it doesn't. He should summon his warriors, not buff random units that happen to march on the lanes - remember how he was a huge xenophobe with all this orc supremacy stuff? Yeah, doesn't inspire much.

    I wouldn't mind him summoning siege engines and kor'kron elite units into the fray, but a "melee bard" is an ETC, no need to make another one
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    Why not both?
    That would be awesome but since they ditched master skins, Heroes release with a base skin and 1 elaborated skin but yeah hoping for both eventually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by De Lupe View Post
    Goblin - Gazlowe
    Tauren - ETC
    Human - Varian, Jaina, Uther
    Troll - Zul'Jin
    Worgen - Greymane
    Forsaken - Sylvanas and Stitches
    Pandaren - Li Li and Chen
    Orc - Thrall, Samuro, Gul'Dan, Garrosh, and Rehgar
    Gnome - Chromie (technically a dragon, but she's taken Gnome form, so she counts at least partially.)
    Night Elf - Tyrande, Illidan, and Tyrande
    Blood Elf - Kael'Thas and Valeera

    Dreanei -

    Yes, we need a Dreanei.
    Draenei suck and so do their characters.

    If we have to have any of the hentai-faced aliens, it better be Archimonde or Kil'Jaeden.
    Me not that kind of Orc!

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    I wouldn't exactly call him racist...
    He never had any issues with other breeds of orcs after all.
    He's just as racist you are, when you kill a mosquito. :P
    So I guess that's why I like him so much! Maybe I should have that checked out at the shrink in little over an hour while I'm there anyway! :P

    Quote Originally Posted by Zmago View Post
    His Rs will be:
    - a self-empower (most probably Sha empowerment)
    - an iron star
    Also this, basically. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by De Lupe View Post
    Velen could be a support with a holy priest theme.
    Anduin could be a multi with a choice between disc support with lower damage and shadow assassin with lower healing.
    Yrel could be an assassin with a ret paladin theme.

    It's easy to separate characters when they only use a few spells.
    yrel instead of maraad or tiron for ret pally would be a travesty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charge me Doctor View Post
    No, she doesn't count. She is not a gnome. If you want to follow this road - protoss are your dreanei
    Only if a Protoss was physically indistinguishable from a Draenei and was literally attempting to look like one to every person they'll ever meet.
    Soothing Mist:"Healing them for a minor amount every 0.5 sec, until you take any other action."
    Jade Serpent Statue: "The statue will also begin casting Soothing Mist on your target. healing for 50% as much as yours. "
    [What's half of minor?]
    "Statue casts Soothing Mist at a nearby ally for toddler healing."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charge me Doctor View Post
    No, it doesn't. He should summon his warriors, not buff random units that happen to march on the lanes - remember how he was a huge xenophobe with all this orc supremacy stuff? Yeah, doesn't inspire much.

    I wouldn't mind him summoning siege engines and kor'kron elite units into the fray, but a "melee bard" is an ETC, no need to make another one

    So what you're saying, the defining part of being a Hellscream means -nothing- to you.

    Because you some how see using WAR CRIES as being a "Melee bard"?

    Hellscream with out his Warsong cries makes no sense what so ever, it's a defining trait, if they wanted to make an Orc who was about summoning Kor'kron they would have just used General Nazgrim.

    I also am questioning your understanding of how the ETC works.

    Quote Originally Posted by Charge me Doctor View Post
    No, she doesn't count. She is not a gnome. If you want to follow this road - protoss are your dreanei
    Know what, never mind after reading this I've decided there is no intelligent discussion to be had here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zmago View Post
    He will probaby have a Grommash skin... mechanic-wise they are pretty much the same anyway.

    I'd say he will be a warrior hero.
    His QWE will be some warrior abilities; most probably "bleed" oriented.
    His Rs will be:
    - a self-empower (most probably Sha empowerment)
    - an iron star



    Please take this idea, kill it, burn it's remains and burry it in hallowed ground, so it never returns again.
    We want an ashbringer, not this russian-accent marry-sure.


    I wouldn't exactly call him racist...
    He never had any issues with other breeds of orcs after all.
    He's just as racist you are, when you kill a mosquito. :P
    i don`t want yrel either but to be fair shes not a marry sue in any sense.

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