"Blizzard Games Will Stop Working on Older Windows Versions"

[ComputerNerd]

I know many won't be hindered by this. It was just strange that they aren't just stopping support for older OS's, the games just won't run anymore. Probably a reason, but just seems harsh.

Likely an update to the games or client, one which takes advantage of something the older OS's simply don't offer.
Though at the very least older hardware does make up some significant portion of the playerbase, as shown by the minimum hardware requirements not just for WoW but a lot of MMO's.

[Charge me Doctor]

Thank you. And good thing it can be turned off isn't it? Optional.

Except even after that it still sends your keystrokes to bing if you monitor your network activity. The only way to stop it is to, probably, remove all bing-related shit or buy an enterprise and change their data gathering policy to "0" (obviously MS doesn't want to fight with corporations, because they can actually take them by the balls for it)

[Gorgodeus]

you want a source that keystroke dynamics exist? what the fuck? Literally first like from google after typing "keystroke logging windows 10"

The telemetry tracking that was introduced in W10 was added to W7 and W8 as well via patches. So unless you have never updated your W7 OS, you are being tracked the same as if you were using W10. There are programs that disable tracking telemetry in W7, W8, and W10, such as :
https://www.safer-networking.org/spybot-anti-beacon/

[Lahis]

Just telling about the times we live in when your OS is actually just Spyware masquerading as an OS.

[Deleted]

Thank you. And good thing it can be turned off isn't it? Optional settings are the best thing ever.

You clearly know nothing about win10 and how background softwares work. Maybe you should learn to use google instead asking for "proofs". Cunt.

[Eleccybubb]

You clearly know nothing about win10 and how background softwares work. Maybe you should learn to use google instead asking for "proofs". Cunt.

When someone makes a claim the burden of proof is on them. If all you have though is to throw insults then I see you have nothing to actually discuss.

But of course lets keep claiming MS and Windows 10 give a damn about what we are doing at our computers. I'm sure they care that I just downloaded Discord for my computer.

A lot if not most of the privacy settings in Windows 10 are optional and are quite easy to opt out from. The only reason people are freaking about it is paranoia. Plain and simple.

[Deleted]

When someone makes a claim the burden of proof is on them. If all you have though is to throw insults then I see you have nothing to actually discuss.

But of course lets keep claiming MS and Windows 10 give a damn about what we are doing at our computers. I'm sure they care that I just downloaded Discord for my computer.

Well yeah, your posts still makes zero sense. I don't care either do they care what midgetporn you watch, but I do care, what they do with my stuff.

[Eleccybubb]

Well yeah, your posts still makes zero sense. I don't care either do they care what midgetporn you watch, but I do care, what they do with my stuff.

And again Microsoft don't care what you do with your stuff. They can't/don't want to see any of us through our webcams and they cant hack our WoW accounts and sell all our gear and then logout for the fun of it.

The simple reason is as I stated. Paranoia. Nothing more.

You can disable most if not all of these settings if you wish.

And these features have also been thrown into 7 and 8.1. So enjoy.

[Deleted]

And again Microsoft don't care what you do with your stuff. They can't/don't want to see any of us through our webcams and they cant hack our WoW accounts and sell all our gear and then logout for the fun of it.

The simple reason is as I stated. Paranoia. Nothing more.

Did I somewhere mention logging into your wow account? Okay, im done, you are just pure stupid.

[Eleccybubb]

Did I somewhere mention logging into your wow account? Okay, im done, you are just pure stupid.

So you have nothing to actually discuss here and just want to throw insults about? Gotcha. Want to have an actual discussion then I'm up for it. If not then well cool I guess.

Microsoft are not watching you. Period. Data Collection has been the norm long before Windows 10. Apple, Google and a lot of other big companies do it.

Hell they added the same stuff to 7 and 10 via patches some time ago.

[caervek]

It's easy to laugh at anyone affected by this, but at the end of the day most of them probably cannot afford to buy a new OS or computer.

It's a shame to see idiots at Blizzard cutting off paying customers for no good reason

[Eleccybubb]

It's easy to laugh at anyone affected by this, but at the end of the day most of them probably cannot afford to buy a new OS or computer.

It's a shame to see idiots at Blizzard cutting off paying customers for no good reason

You really want to try and say that many of WoW or Blizzard gamers in general are on XP or Vista? Very bold claim considering the usage share of both Operating Systems. XP is mostly used these days as a stripped down version called Embedded.

XP has a Usage share of 4.09%

Vista is at 0.72%

Not even 5% combined.

It's not idiotic at all. People should be upgrading from XP. It's an ancient OS. Especially for gaming. I mean great if it works but doesn't change the fact you are behind with the times. Blizzard are phasing out these older Operating Systems that are no longer supported so it saves the hassle of developing for them. As a lot of other game devs are doing.

[caervek]

It's not idiotic at all. People should be upgrading from XP

I was talking specifically about Vista, which is going to be supported by WoW for at least another decade even if it refuses to install/run on it. Not that the retards who made this decision would understand that.

[Eleccybubb]

I was talking specifically about Vista, which is going to be supported by WoW for at least another decade even if it refuses to install/run on it. Not that the retards who made this decision would understand that.

Vista Extended Support has already ended. Why support an unsupported OS anymore when MS made 7 to replace Vista because of the bad reception it got?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Vista

Extended support ended as of April 11th this year.

Also again 0.72% use Vista. If you want to claim that the majority of Vista users are playing WoW or Blizzard games then go for it I guess. The decision was made so they can phase out an officially unsupported OS. Lot of game companies have started to phase out Vista or lower to design on because it is not worth the time or effort.

[Polarthief]

But how do I play Warcraft III then? D:

In all seriousness, I hope this means we'll actually see HD remakes of WC3 and D2 like they have with SC1.

[caervek]

Vista Extended Support has already ended

Support from Microsoft, not from Blizzard. They can block WoW from installing/running on Vista but they can't actually support because they support 7/8/10 and so defacto support Vista, they just have it blacklisted because they allow idiots to make decisions about things they don't understand

Basically their budgeting department thinks that if they cut support for Vista specific issues (which don't really exist) they will save money by not having to help/assist people with those illusionary issues, and that this will offset any money lost (via losing subs from people who cannot afford a new OS/computer). To then ensure that people cannot use an unsupported OS they then have the tech department configure the software to refuse to install/run on said OS (and sadly nobody in the tech department dares to tell them they're being stupid and that Vista/7/8/10 all share the NT6 kernel, meaning supporting one means supporting all).

The major flaw in their plan is obviously that it won't really save any money just alienate customers, it's one of those things that only makes any sense to a person with limited understanding of what's happening/involved.

They did the same thing with Windows 2000 a number of years back (Which being the same core OS as XP was defacto supported until this year).

[Eleccybubb]

Support from Microsoft, not from Blizzard. They can block WoW from installing/running on Vista but they can't actually support because they support 7/8/10 and so defacto support Vista, they just have it blacklisted because they allow idiots to make decisions about things they don't understand

Basically their budgeting department thinks that if they cut support for Vista specific issues (which don't really exist) they will save money by not having to help/assist people with those illusionary issues, and that this will offset any money lost (via losing subs from people who cannot afford a new OS/computer). To then ensure that people cannot use an unsupported OS they then have the tech department configure the software to refuse to install/run on said OS (and sadly nobody in the tech department dares to tell them they're being stupid and that Vista/7/8/10 all share the NT6 kernel, meaning supporting one means supporting all).

The major flaw in their plan is obviously that it won't really save any money just alienate customers, it's one of those things that only makes any sense to a person with limited understanding of what's happening/involved.

They did the same thing with Windows 2000 a number of years back (Which being the same core OS as XP was defacto supported until this year).

Still a big thing that MS don't support it anymore. That means down the line the OS is vulnerable to security flaws since it will no longer receive security updates.

Again who the hell of the 0.72% is it alienating? You got some evidence that the majority of Blizzard/WoW players are on Vista or a sizeable amount? Or are you just going to keep calling it a "stupid decision" that they are phasing out an OS barely anyone uses so it saves them time and effort?

Sounds to me like you are just looking to get a few swings in at Blizzard here. I mean sure go for it I don't agree with some stuff they do either. But throwing dirt at them for dropping an unsupported OS with barely any usage? That's grasping at straws.

[Thage]

Is there any reason you are avoiding the huge memory and HDD performance enhancements from 8 on ?

I think anyone who is stuck on Windows 7 has no right to criticise people stuck on Windows XP

Personal taste, at the moment. I didn't upgrade to 8 because the interface looked absolutely awful compared to earlier versions, and I've been hearing Vista-esque stories about 10 that have prompted me to give it another couple years before I upgrade to ensure it doesn't shit out on me.

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But how do I play Warcraft III then? D:

In all seriousness, I hope this means we'll actually see HD remakes of WC3 and D2 like they have with SC1.

Didn't they upgrade Warcraft 3's framework to run on 7/8/10 along with Diablo II and Starcraft? That being said, I keep hearing rumors an official D2 remake is in the pipeline and a WC3 remake is a safe bet, considering the popularity of the two fan-remake mods being worked on for the SC2 Arcade.

[caervek]

Still a big thing that MS don't support it anymore.

It is for the people still using it, but that shouldn't reallly be any of Blizzard's concern.

Again who the hell of the 0.72% is it alienating?

I don't actually know how many of the 1.1% of users still on Vista play WoW, but as it's obviously >1 it is still relevant.

are you just going to keep calling it a "stupid decision" that they are phasing out an OS barely anyone uses so it saves them time and effort?

Yes, because it is a stupid decision, but it will not save them any time/effort, hence the stupid part of the decision.

Sounds to me like you are just looking to get a few swings in at Blizzard here.

Not at all, I just work in IT and it irks me when I see tech guys get incompetent orders from non tech guys.

[haxartus]

Here is the full amount of information that is collected in the basic mode:
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/win...nts-and-fields

No, tanks.