How are Antifa not Nazis?

[Zecora]

Here it is again. Someone has to die to the stupidity for it to count. How does this not constitute as support if you'll justify rioting and violence because no one died?

No-one has justified rioting, simply not accepting the "Antifa is nazi's / Antifa is facists" bullshit is not the same as justifying riots or violence.

[KrazyK923]

Right? Sargon (and others like him, like Thunderf00t) are just as histrionic, misinformed/misinforming, and easily-triggered kidults as Anita Sarkeesian or however you spell her last name.

They're exactly the same as the people they whine about.

[Mehrunes]

Here it is again. Someone has to die to the stupidity for it to count. How does this not constitute as support if you'll justify rioting and violence because no one died?

Saying that X is worse than Y is not justifying Y, let alone the specific actions of Y. Learn what the words you use mean before you flail around in public.

[Torgent]

Remember when Bush and Obama were Nazis? Fuck. I'm sure someone called Bill a Nazi.

It means bad people now.

Maybe to the uneducated. To the rest of us, words have meanings. And one person misusing a word doesn't suddenly change the meaning.

[Thage]

The Sargon video was literally the least important part of my post. All he really says in that video is that Antifa are Anarcho-Communists, a point that you seem to agree with. As I said, if you have a better video that explains what Antifa is more succinctly, I will that into my post.

Or you could--gasp--read about fascism and anarcho-communism as ideologies. Nine out of ten videos will misinform you one way or the other by trying to boil down complex ideologies and large groups with disparate interpretations of said ideologies into easily-quotable sound bites.

I also addressed your argument in my post where I broke down the fundamentals of Fascism and how Antifa meets 4 of the 5 criteria, and the 5th criteria is not that important. I know it's a lot of text, but please read it before trying to criticize.

Your criteria and the actual definitions of fascism and anarcho-communism/Antifa are at odds. Fascism is a totalitarian ideology driven primarily by racial supremacy and a cult of personality, wherein anyone who is not part of said personality cult's central figure's preferred racial makeup are ostracized, systematically denied their rights, and eventually put through ethnic cleansing that has, historically, always involved genocide.

Antifa, on the other hand, are violent protestors speaking out what they see is a totalitarian figure and a rise in racial-supremacist activity.

Physician, educate thyself.

[Kraenen]

No-one has justified rioting, simply not accepting the "Antifa is nazi's / Antifa is facists" bullshit is not the same as justifying riots or violence.

To call it bullshit seems like you have some feelings for these people, no?

[Mehrunes]

I don't think you got him. He didn't say that he didn't get any results when googling the Hamburg riots, just that only sites like Breitbart and RT couple those riots with Antifa. In other words, he is implying (and I rather think he is right) that the Riots had nothing to do with Antifa, EXCEPT in Breitbart and RT "news" and in the minds of certain (americans) with a right bent mind.

That is correct.

[Alydael]

I would be wary of anybody showing up dressed in black masks.

I would call that "common sense."

Of course they are facists, if you don't agree with them they disrupt your town and do things like break windows, burn stores, riot and hit people with bicycle locks....

They are far from Nazi's though, I have yet to see antifa rounding up people and sending them to death camps, nor have I seen them take over a neighboring country or start bombing London.....

Of course they are facists though: if you don't agree with you they disrupt your town and do things like break windows, riot and hit people with bicycle locks....

They really should be charged as domestic terrorism.

[Dextroden]

Saying that X is worse than Y is not justifying Y, let alone the specific actions of Y. Learn what the words you use mean before you flail around in public.

Except the part where you and Ninespine needed to see deaths. Why do they need to kill people to matter? Smashing property to affect politics isn't a problem until we have to bury someone?

[Mehrunes]

Except the part where you and Ninespine needed to see deaths. Why do they need to kill people to matter? Smashing property to affect politics isn't a problem until we have to bury someone?

OK, humor me. What exactly did I "need to see deaths" for?

[Dextroden]

No-one has justified rioting, simply not accepting the "Antifa is nazi's / Antifa is facists" bullshit is not the same as justifying riots or violence.

I'm sorry. How many people used the "they haven't killed anyone" dodge?

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OK, humor me. What exactly did I "need to see deaths" for?

You tell me, show me piles of bodies.

[Zecora]

To call it bullshit seems like you have some feelings for these people, no?

Which is not relevant to whether someone is justifying rioting and violence either, just like not accepting the aforementioned bullshit.

You people really don't have any actual arguments, do you.

[Mehrunes]

You tell me, show me piles of bodies.

You're the one who made this patently retarded claim about me. So it's on you to prove anything. And I didn't even ask you for proof, I asked you for an explanation. Alas, even that was beyond your capabilities.

[Zecora]

I'm sorry. How many people used the "they haven't killed anyone" dodge?

To illustrate that they are not the same as nazi's / neo-nazi's / facists? Plenty. To "justify rioting and violence"? No-one.

[Dextroden]

To illustrate that they are not the same as nazi's / neo-nazi's / facists? Plenty. To "justify rioting and violence"? No-one.

You don't have to be the same to be shit.

Revolutionary, right? Next you'll learn Clinton wasn't a good choice just because Trump is awful.

[Kraenen]

Which is not relevant to whether someone is justifying rioting and violence either, just like not accepting the aforementioned bullshit.

You people really don't have any actual arguments, do you.

I was actually just checking. I'm not sure who "you people" refers to. You don't really need to have much more ideology than "stop taking to violence for political beliefs" to be against antifa. You seem to have some kind of emotional stake in whether antifa gets attacked or not, which is both weird and potentially criminal.

[Zecora]

You don't have to be the same to be shit.

Revolutionary, right? Next you'll learn Clinton wasn't a good choice just because Trump is awful.

The thread is not about "How are Antifa not Shit", the claims being made are not "Antifa is Shit", the claims are "Antifa is Nazi's / Facists / Worse than neo-Nazi's". Pointing out that that simply Is. Not. True. -is NOT the same as "justifying riots and violence".

Also, keep your crappy american politics away from me, BOTH Trump and Clinton are utter shits as far as I am concerned.

[Dextroden]

You're the one who made this patently retarded claim about me. So it's on you to prove anything. And I didn't even ask you for proof, I asked you for an explanation. Alas, even that was beyond your capabilities.

Fuck it.

If they don't kill, they must be good. That has to be the logic to deflect to deaths so you don't have to talk about riots.

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The thread is not about "How are Antifa not Shit", the claims being made are not "Antifa is Shit", the claims are "Antifa is Nazi's / Facists / Worse than neo-Nazi's". Pointing out that that simply Is. Not. True. -is NOT the same as "justifying riots and violence".

Also, keep your crappy american politics away from me, BOTH Trump and Clinton are utter shits as far as I am concerned.

Saying they didn't kill anyone doesn't disallow the violence comparison.

[Mehrunes]

Fuck it.

If they don't kill, they must be good. That has to be the logic to deflect to deaths so you don't have to talk about riots.

Quote me saying that. Given how I did talk about riots (in the very post that triggered you) and managed to do so without justifying the riots (contrary to your horseshit slander), you're simply full of crap and your reading comprehension is as atrocious as always.

[Volardelis]

Why do people keep forgetting the worst/most important part of the nazi ideology? The whole wanting to genocide the jews/gypsies/disabled/non-whites?


A shitty sargon vid and a wall of text wont change that, you wasted you time, congratz OP.

Some people these days see a group that is extreme and instantly think they are nazi's. Even if said extreme group is on the far left, which were the mortal enemies of the nazi's. Since the first groups of people locked into the camps were socialists and communists. Maybe it is because these people think national socialism = marxist socialism, even though they are different