Intercepts: Sessions discussed the campaign with Russian Ambassador in 2016.

[downnola]

Well it was looking like we might make a whole page without it. Pretty sure I hit all the key points but I'm no expert on how to Trumpkin.

-Not a Tump fan
-But her emails!
-Everyone but me is Partisan
-It's all fake news
-Evil MSM

What am I missing?

Forgot to stuff Obummer in there somewhere.

And Benghazi.

[Machismo]

Well it was looking like we might make a whole page without it. Pretty sure I hit all the key points but I'm no expert on how to Trumpkin.

-Not a Tump fan
-But her emails!
-Everyone but me is Partisan
-It's all fake news
-Evil MSM

What am I missing?

-Trump is not a politician, he speaks his mind.

[Arvei]

Well it was looking like we might make a whole page without it. Pretty sure I hit all the key points but I'm no expert on how to Trumpkin.

-Not a Tump fan
-But her emails!
-Everyone but me is Partisan
-It's all fake news
-Evil MSM

What am I missing?

-Collusion is okay, everyone does it
-Don Jr. was lured into taking that Russian meeting in the pizza parlor basement by demongod Killary

[Ripster42]

Huh.

Firing Sessions has its own ups and downs for Trump, but I'm fairly sure his replacement can't fire Mueller. I think only Rosenstein has that authority. Anyone want to back that up or refute it?

Refute. Rosentein only has that authority because sessions has recused himself and sessions is basically the only person above him in the DoJ. If a new AG who doesn't recuse themselves gets installed they'll have that authority in rosentein's stead.

[fengosa]

Well it was looking like we might make a whole page without it. Pretty sure I hit all the key points but I'm no expert on how to Trumpkin.

-Not a Tump fan
-But her emails!
-Everyone but me is Partisan
-It's all fake news
-Evil MSM

What am I missing?

He's new at this. Go easy on him.

[Wyrt]

He's new at this. Go easy on him.

Give him a chance! We gave Obama a chance!

[lockedout]

And just when you thought it was safe go see Dunkirk...






So let's be clear about this:
-> Obviously more Collusion evidence. Policy promises/positions in exchange for help.
-> Sessions committed perjury, period. Will likely want to strike a plea deal. Inc. Mueller informant?
-> Sessions almost certainly has to resign.
-> Going by the example of how Trump has had to replace Comey with Wray, the only new Attorney General he'd get would be a person of impeccable character who will have to promise not to fire Mueller or interfere in the investigation.

Get fucked Trump. Enjoy your two scoops Trumpkins.

“Obviously I cannot comment on the reliability of what anonymous sources describe in a wholly uncorroborated intelligence intercept that the Washington Post has not seen and that has not been provided to me,” said Sarah Isgur Flores, a Justice Department spokeswoman in a statement. She reiterated that Sessions did not discuss interference in the election."

You are grasping at straws here.

[Orbitus]

“Obviously I cannot comment on the reliability of what anonymous sources describe in a wholly uncorroborated intelligence intercept that the Washington Post has not seen and that has not been provided to me,” said Sarah Isgur Flores, a Justice Department spokeswoman in a statement. She reiterated that Sessions did not discuss interference in the election."

You are grasping at straws here.

Says the liar for Trump. You have been trying to play semantics every fucking post you have been posting in defense of Trump.

[Chingylol]

But.. but.. Fake NEWS!!!!

[lockedout]

Says the liar for Trump. You have been trying to play semantics every fucking post you have been posting in defense of Trump.

I could care less who is president. I am just pointing out the obvious.

[Breccia]

“Obviously I cannot comment on the reliability of what anonymous sources describe in a wholly uncorroborated intelligence intercept that the Washington Post has not seen and that has not been provided to me,” said Sarah Isgur Flores, a Justice Department spokeswoman in a statement. She reiterated that Sessions did not discuss interference in the election."

Wow. Doesn't look at all like a denial to me. They're going with "you can't get a second person to say this" instead of "Sessions didn't do it"?

Also, which paper was it that broke the news of Session's first and second meetings with Kislyak, the ones Sessions failed to disclose, and because he failed to disclose them, Sessions was forced to recuse himself? Was it the same Washington Post, or a different one?

Tell you what: let's see if Sessions himself personally refutes this story. This "there is no second source" defense is pretty limp-dick, especially coming from a Trump supporter who is the only source of some pretty unbelievable lies. Like $12 a year health care!

[Orbitus]

I could care less who is president. I am just pointing out the obvious.

And yet, it is still true. But hey, you keep doing that whole liar for Trump lifestyle you currently have.

[Paranoid Android]

Give him a chance! We gave Obama a chance!

This is despicable and he should never fire Sessions, yet I will stay quiet and vote for his crony replacement AG

[Deleted]

You are grasping at straws here.

That's an understatement.


@lockedout -

You know what I find interesting?

For six straight months anti-Trumpers, like the OP, have been screaming about "the Russians", basically inferring that any person of Russian nationality that has come into contact with President Trump, or anyone he has ever known, is somehow connected to "the Kremlin." They believe all "Russians" are suspect, that you cannot trust ANY Russian or ANYTHING they may say or do. After all, every "Russian" is just a puppet for Putin.

So, now, along comes a story about the former Ambassador for Russia, being spyed on by U.S. intelligence (wait... I thought only Russia did the spying? You mean we do that too?) and they supposedly have Kislyak on tape contradicting Session's statements about his contacts with "the Russians".

Now, I would think that folks like the OP would question the veracity of the Russian Ambassadors account of his meeting with Sessions, given their complete distrust of "the Russians" - but instead they are willing to buy this story hook, line, and sinker. They are willing to betray their convictions, at the drop of hat, because it bolsters their overall narrative - to destroy Trump, at all costs (including their convictions.)

They don't stop to think for one second that Kislyak KNOWS he is being recorded by US intel (hell, we all know from the Flynn intercepts that US intel is recording everyone - and the people being recorded know it as well) and he purposely mischaracterized the meeting specifically to do what the anti-Trumpers scream about - to undermine our democracy. They are so blinded by their hatred for Trump, they don't even realize that they are ones actually being manipulated by Russian propaganda.

As the article said:

Russian and other foreign diplomats in Washington and elsewhere have been known, at times, to report false or misleading information to bolster their standing with their superiors or to confuse U.S. intelligence agencies.

In their Quixotic mission to destroy Trump, it is laughable to watch the antii-Trumpers sell out their convictions and beliefs for a measly scrap of leaked intel that was designed to sow the very discord it has.

The only thing that is even of any note in all of this is that, once again, someone in the intel community has committed a MAJOR felony and released classified information. The people leaking the info (just like the phone calls between Trump/Mexico/Australia) need to be arrested, indicted, convicted, and forced to serve the maximum prison penalty with no chance of parole.

[schwarzkopf]

-Trump is not a politician, he speaks his mind.

This is correct, and given his mind is an incoherent wasteland - what he says tends to be complete rubbish.

If Trump had got into power and ACTUALLY drained the swamp - then he'd have gathered huge support from not just the right.

[Orbitus]

That's an understatement.


@lockedout -

You know what I find interesting?

For six straight months anti-Trumpers, like the OP, have been screaming about "the Russians", basically inferring that any person of Russian nationality that has come into contact with President Trump, or anyone he has ever known, is somehow connected to "the Kremlin." They believe all "Russians" are suspect, that you cannot trust ANY Russian or ANYTHING they may say or do. After all, every "Russian" is just a puppet for Putin.

So, now, along comes a story about the former Ambassador for Russia, being spyed on by U.S. intelligence (wait... I thought only Russia did the spying? You mean we do that too?) and they supposedly have Kislyak on tape contradicting Session's statements about his contacts with "the Russians".

Now, I would think that folks like the OP would question the veracity of the Russian Ambassadors account of his meeting with Sessions, given their complete distrust of "the Russians" - but instead they are willing to buy this story hook, line, and sinker. They are willing to betray their convictions, at the drop of hat, because it bolsters their overall narrative - to destroy Trump, at all costs (including their convictions.)

They don't stop to think for one second that Kislyak KNOWS he is being recorded by US intel (hell, we all know from the Flynn intercepts that US intel is recording everyone - and the people being recorded know it as well) and he purposely mischaracterized the meeting specifically to do what the anti-Trumpers scream about - to undermine our democracy. They are so blinded by their hatred for Trump, they don't even realize that they are ones actually being manipulated by Russian propaganda.

As the article said:


In their Quixotic mission to destroy Trump, it is laughable to watch the antii-Trumpers sell out their convictions and beliefs for a measly scrap of leaked intel that was designed to sow the very discord it has.

The only thing that is even of any note in all of this is that, once again, someone in the intel community has committed a MAJOR felony and released classified information. The people leaking the info (just like the phone calls between Trump/Mexico/Australia) need to be arrested, indicted, convicted, and forced to serve the maximum prison penalty with no chance of parole.

Poor Ransath, doesn't like that his candidate of choice wasn't his candidate legitimately.

[jdbond592]

That's an understatement.


@lockedout -

You know what I find interesting?

For six straight months anti-Trumpers, like the OP, have been screaming about "the Russians", basically inferring that any person of Russian nationality that has come into contact with President Trump, or anyone he has ever known, is somehow connected to "the Kremlin." They believe all "Russians" are suspect, that you cannot trust ANY Russian or ANYTHING they may say or do. After all, every "Russian" is just a puppet for Putin.

So, now, along comes a story about the former Ambassador for Russia, being spyed on by U.S. intelligence (wait... I thought only Russia did the spying? You mean we do that too?) and they supposedly have Kislyak on tape contradicting Session's statements about his contacts with "the Russians".

Now, I would think that folks like the OP would question the veracity of the Russian Ambassadors account of his meeting with Sessions, given their complete distrust of "the Russians" - but instead they are willing to buy this story hook, line, and sinker. They are willing to betray their convictions, at the drop of hat, because it bolsters their overall narrative - to destroy Trump, at all costs (including their convictions.)

They don't stop to think for one second that Kislyak KNOWS he is being recorded by US intel (hell, we all know from the Flynn intercepts that US intel is recording everyone - and the people being recorded know it as well) and he purposely mischaracterized the meeting specifically to do what the anti-Trumpers scream about - to undermine our democracy. They are so blinded by their hatred for Trump, they don't even realize that they are ones actually being manipulated by Russian propaganda.

As the article said:


In their Quixotic mission to destroy Trump, it is laughable to watch the antii-Trumpers sell out their convictions and beliefs for a measly scrap of leaked intel that was designed to sow the very discord it has.

The only thing that is even of any note in all of this is that, once again, someone in the intel community has committed a MAJOR felony and released classified information. The people leaking the info (just like the phone calls between Trump/Mexico/Australia) need to be arrested, indicted, convicted, and forced to serve the maximum prison penalty with no chance of parole.

I have two words:

Deep State!


Fight on! Save Trump from deep state. Sessions did nothing wrong!

[Bullettime]

Definitely agree that this is more likely to be a leak from the Trump camp. Sessions was originally considering stepping down but was convinced to stay on. Since then, the situation and optics of the investigation is getting far worse but Sessions recently took a hard stance that he's changed his mind and is adamant about not leaving his post. Now this report a few days later and the fact that Trump has flipped on Sessions publicly and wants him gone because of how badly Sessions's recusal is playing out for him means that it's more likely for Trump's camp to pull something like this.

Outright firing Sessions after the recent comments would be way too suspicious whereas this gives a cover.

Mueller doesn't have anything really to gain by having this leaked. If Trump manages to ram through a sycophant that doesn't recuse themselves and attempts to remove Mueller from his position, it adds more to the obstruction file but makes the affair that much messier. Sessions is a fucking idiot with his own bullshit agenda he's working on the whole time this is all going on, but he's not really impeding the investigation. If anything, he's making their jobs easier since he's continually perjuring himself when it comes to Russia related topics.

[Wyrt]

Definitely agree that this is more likely to be a leak from the Trump camp. Sessions was originally considering stepping down but was convinced to stay on. Since then, the situation and optics of the investigation is getting far worse but Sessions recently took a hard stance that he's changed his mind and is adamant about not leaving his post. Now this report a few days later and the fact that Trump has flipped on Sessions publicly and wants him gone because of how badly Sessions's recusal is playing out for him means that it's more likely for Trump's camp to pull something like this.

Outright firing Sessions after the recent comments would be way too suspicious whereas this gives a cover.

Mueller doesn't have anything really to gain by having this leaked. If Trump manages to ram through a sycophant that doesn't recuse themselves and attempts to remove Mueller from his position, it adds more to the obstruction file but makes the affair that much messier. Sessions is a fucking idiot with his own bullshit agenda he's working on the whole time this is all going on, but he's not really impeding the investigation. If anything, he's making their jobs easier since he's continually perjuring himself when it comes to Russia related topics.

It's the nuclear option, but what other option does Trump have?

[fengosa]

They don't stop to think for one second that Kislyak KNOWS he is being recorded by US intel (hell, we all know from the Flynn intercepts that US intel is recording everyone - and the people being recorded know it as well) and he purposely mischaracterized the meeting specifically to do what the anti-Trumpers scream about - to undermine our democracy. They are so blinded by their hatred for Trump, they don't even realize that they are ones actually being manipulated by Russian propaganda.

In their Quixotic mission to destroy Trump, it is laughable to watch the antii-Trumpers sell out their convictions and beliefs for a measly scrap of leaked intel that was designed to sow the very discord it has.

The only thing that is even of any note in all of this is that, once again, someone in the intel community has committed a MAJOR felony and released classified information. The people leaking the info (just like the phone calls between Trump/Mexico/Australia) need to be arrested, indicted, convicted, and forced to serve the maximum prison penalty with no chance of parole.

2/10

Your conspiracy theory ignores the fact that Trump Jr received an email that explicitly stated Russia was supporting their bid for president. If you're trying to secretly manipulate people you don't inform them in writing that you are trying to do so. Similarly if Sessions were just a pawn in all of this he'd likely have much better memory of it when he testified before congress.

The excuses are getting worse and worse by the day.