How are Antifa not Nazis?

[Wolfman31]

Well, you always end in totalitarism if you either go far right or far left. Still the basic ideology is very different.

It's not that different though. They both start from different intentions, but they always arrive at the same destination. It doesn't matter how they arrive at totalitarianism because every perceived right and liberty leading up to the point becomes null and void. "Absolute power corrupts absolutely."

[Zython]

Here's one of our "lovely" Off-topic posters advocating for eugenics. Does this make you as angry as leftists breaking property? If not, why not?

[Dextroden]

Here's one of our "lovely" Off-topic posters advocating for eugenics. Does this make you as angry as leftists breaking property? If not, why not?

He's an idiot with a stupid position. Unlike people that break property, he hasn't broken any laws believing in the garbage of eugenics.

But I guess he must be put in the gulag for having a stupid opinion.

[Nazrark]

In order to reach the level of Nazi. You would have to have done some truly disgusting things. I quite dislike the either you're a teddy bear or you're a Nazi. There are several steps before them. To loosely use the term Nazi to describe a group of people without it's severity undermines the word itself.

[LoLcano]

Terrorist ? sure
Nazi? Not so much

[Xarkan]

I can smell the nitpicks for calling them Stalinists already.

There is some validity to claiming i cherry picked factions. Because i did. Deliberately. I also did not call them Stalinists. I said Stalinists exist, being called one should be an insult.

It certainly seems like the "king" of evil titles is fascist, which truly makes me think it's about avoiding being called that. It's the same tactics with things like racism vs reverse racism.

Except if Antifa were fascists that'd make them right wing and i could bash the right for them. It'd be convenient. Too convenient.

Reverse racism is by the way deliberate racism.

[Dextroden]

There is some validity to claiming i cherry picked factions. Because i did. Deliberately. I also did not call them Stalinists. I said Stalinists exist, being called one should be an insult.



Except if Antifa were fascists that'd make them right wing and i could bash the right for them. It'd be convenient. Too convenient.

Reverse racism is by the way deliberate racism.

All actual racism is deliberate. That phrase exists to separate racism because "it's different". Fucking garbage.

And it's great that the left has nothing as buzzwordy as fascism to apply to "evil". Can't call them anything because of a chart.

[Xarkan]

And it's great that the left has nothing as buzzwordy as fascism to apply to "evil". Can't call them anything because of a chart.

I am unsure how to take that

You are apparantly claiming that Stalin did no evil or that he was right wing and/or that Stalinism is either a right wing -ism or not an evil thing

It might make sense if you were a closet Stalinist.. but that seems rather unlikely.

[Dextroden]

I am unsure how to take that

You are apparantly claiming that Stalin did no evil or that he was right wing and/or that Stalinism is either a right wing -ism or not an evil thing

It might make sense if you were a closet Stalinist.. but that seems rather unlikely.

I'm claiming no one will accept the term Stalinists either.

"Look at this chart. This half inch proves they have nothing in common."

Same with Mao. Can't call them fascists even though they quack like ducks. What does that leave to call the violent trash on the left that won't cause every Antifa fanboy to whip out a dictionary?

[Zecora]

I'm claiming no one will accept the term Stalinists either.

"Look at this chart. This half inch proves they have nothing in common."

Same with Mao. Can't call them fascists even though they quack like ducks. What does that leave to call the violent trash on the left that won't cause every Antifa fanboy to whip out a dictionary?

Maybe call them Antifa? Since that is what they are, instead of trying to apply a label that has nothing to do with them. What you and some others in this thread are trying to do amounts to "I don't like apples, so I am going to call them oranges because everyone hates oranges, and ignore that that is in no way what they are". What you SHOULD do is criticize them for what they actually are, and the things they actually do, instead of trying to equate them to some horrible evil in a pathetic attempt to make other hate them (and by association, "the Left") like you do.

What you do is both intellectually dishonest and sad.

[Deleted]

the extremes of Antifa
the extremes of Nazis

Never thought this would be an actual point of conversation.

[NineSpine]

No. I'm just running against the doctors that demand a disease kill X patients before any attention is paid to it. Especially if the disease mutates when allowed to fester.

I don't see where I say cancer funding should be cut because rabies is a problem. But lo and behold. Talking about rabies in any capacity leads to people foaming at the mouth about cancer.

Cancer is horrible. How does that magically make rabies not a problem?

Because rabies isn't a problem. Given the amount of people it effects, it is a non-issue. You have a much higher chance of dying by being struck by lightning. Demanding everyone consider it a serious medical issue when we have diseases that kills huge numbers of people is irrational, and borderline delusional.

But we all know, and even you know, that you aren't concerned because you think antifa is a serious issue. You are just virtue signaling and using this as a political tool.

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I'm claiming no one will accept the term Stalinists either.

"Look at this chart. This half inch proves they have nothing in common."

Same with Mao. Can't call them fascists even though they quack like ducks. What does that leave to call the violent trash on the left that won't cause every Antifa fanboy to whip out a dictionary?

Define fascism. You keep whining about every else using the normal definitions and parameters that modern political science uses, so if you are so much more brilliant than all of the political scientists of the world, provide your own definition.

[Deleted]

Are antisjw people sjw themselves?

[Deleted]

I have never in my life seen anyone defend antifa.

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Are antisjw people sjw themselves?

In the sense that they behave exactly the same way, yes. Yes they are.

[Stop Pretending]

So you don't know what Nazis actually are, that's all that can be taken from this long winded post.

[Ealyssa]

"The left needs to stop calling everyone Nazis!"
"Antifa are Nazis!"

*sigh*

The alt right in a nutshell.

[Crispin]

So the antifascist groups are nazi's/fascists... what? I'm sure you think Nazi's are Communists right?

[schwarzkopf]

OP - not every boat crash is the Titanic.

[Adam Jensen]

Do they support German Nationalism?
Do they support fascism?
Do they support lebensraum?
Do they support eugenics?
Do they believe the Aryan race is superior?

If they don't support most or all of those statements, they probably aren't nazis.

[Mekh]

There was this one man, quite the hero, did some amazing work with regards for African American rights. Did it non-violently too, in fact, he was completely against any form of political violence in furthering what was right and necessary.

So no, not everyone supports violence to get their way. Only stupid people who probably haven't any idea WHY they riot and loot.

"I contend that the cry of "black power" is, at bottom, a reaction to the reluctance of white power to make the kind of changes necessary to make justice a reality for the Negro. I think that we've got to see that a riot is the language of the unheard." - Martin Luther King, 1966