What is the secondary stat you miss the most?

[Jarg]

mp5 along with 5 sec rule, it actually led to meaningful decisions

[Deleted]

That's now their mastery.

That is so not true.

[Sylvaeres]

Armor Penetration. It gave pure physical dps something to look for that made sense

[Highwhale]

Aggro. Enough said. Also fire/ice/etc resistance.

[Tradu]

I guess Arpen. Not because it was some deep, complex, gameplay-enhancing stat, but because as an Arms warrior, it was fucking delicious to get gear with lots of Arpen on it and crush through everything even harder.

This. Armor Pen just felt cool, even though it was really similar to what vers does now(just with an actual cap)

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Aggro. Enough said.

Fuck no. Having your performance directly limited by another person is not fun gameplay.

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That's now their mastery.

And it was their mastery before multistrike as well, I'm pretty sure.

[kalaratic]

multistrike because removing it gave an excuse for the class design team to go full retard on the best spec the game had ever seen

[Paulosio]

spirit was the same as MP5 though

mp5 was continuous mana regen.

Originally spirit was mana regen while not casting I believe. I think it only became continuous mana regen in later xpacs.

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Multistrike, Armor Pen and Hit (Hit is mostly due to the fact that I missed having to do gear management).

And by that you mean going to the reforger and have an addon do it all for you.

[Deleted]

I always liked defense in a "you need to be this tall to ride the tank ride" sort of way.

[huth]

And it was their mastery before multistrike as well, I'm pretty sure.

Yes. They actually made it work differently on Chain Lightning to keep the Mastery functionality.

IMO they should have combined it with Crit and have it depend on the spec whether you get bigger hits or more.

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Hit, Expertise, Defensive Rating (resistances dunno if they count)

[Lochton]

y that you mean going to the reforger and have an addon do it all for you.

Hah! I'm not a rookie, never had an addon do my work on the reforging. I was being honest when I said, I enjoy gear management.

[Highwhale]

Fuck no. Having your performance directly limited by another person is not fun gameplay.

Aggro in vanilla was badly designed. But if it will be made properly it would be more interesting than current tanking model. Google some Tera Online Lancer tanking videos - aggro and tanking as whole is best part of this game. Every second if you do something wrong or miss opportunities to attack boss (while shielding between his attacks) you risk to lose aggro. Tanking in Tera is dynamic and intense gameplay. I wish WoW had something like it.

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Attack power

[grondik]

I miss my 55% dodge from ICC. Every time dodged Reaper of Souls my Rl told me "Great Job, Grond.." He had no idea bears didnt have evasion cooldowns)

[NorthWay]

Resistance.
It was kind of overlooked though as I think only rogues had talents that revolved around it, and there wasn't really enough of it to be worth speccing for, plus it capped before 100%.
The 1.x Subtlety talents feel like you should stack dodge and resistance to get lots of free combat points, but then nobody did and they changed it in 2.x(?) to be free cp on group crits instead.

[Thoughtful Trolli]

Armor penetration

Thank heavens its the first reply.

RIP 11,000k Shreds ICC

[Deleted]

Block value....


and how prot warrs stacked shitload of it and raped everything that moved in pvp

[Echocho]

Mp5 hands down. Defense a close second.

[Orange Joe]

Well, at one point they were different. For a long time we had what was called the five second rule, wherein our mana regen from spirit would completely cease for 5 seconds after we spent mana. So we'd cast spells in bursts, then rest to allow ourselves to regen. MP5 worked all the time, but we almost always have much less of it than regen from spirit.

Mana didn't regen during combat. Had nothing to do with not casting for 5 seconds. MP5 would give mana back every 5 seconds in/out of combat.

[cparle87]

Mana didn't regen during combat. Had nothing to do with not casting for 5 seconds. MP5 would give mana back every 5 seconds in/out of combat.

http://wow.gamepedia.com/Five_second_rule