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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    This is more descriptive of your extremism than everyone else's.

    For instance, I'm a market socialist, I support policies like a universal basic income and proportional salary caps for executives. I support strong progressive tax models. I'm not "a far-left extremist", though I'll freely admit I'm pretty left-wing. Most of these policies are at least being considered or tested in a lot of countries around the world; Canada's testing a basic income system right now in Ontario.

    "Far-left extremism" would be things like "there should be no private property at all" or "I want a pure communist state where everyone is equal in terms of 'income'" or the like. While you might see those things occasionally raise their heads among a tiny minority on campuses, that's mostly kids pushing boundaries and being shocking, nothing more. Their way of engaging in youthful rebellion.

    Pretending that fairly middle-of-the-road left-wing views are somehow "extremist" is nonsense, and paints you as the extremist.
    Its probably where i live (near cambridge in the greater boston area), but ideas like that are fairly common around here, and anything near center is pretty out of place. My area is about on par with San Fran in terms of ideology, and is the area in which i went to college, my school demanded the American flag be taken down because it represented hate and oppression, but was ultimately stopped. I also did my "green to gold" there, but wasnt allowed to do any military studies on campus, and had to commute about 45 minutes away to get to the ROTC unit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ujx View Post
    "Alt right" is a made up catch-all label for people who don't agree with the liberal echo-chamber. It's much easier to instantly dismiss them and brand them as racist, xenophobic, and misogynists instead of having actual debate. Basically if you disagree with my morally superior ultra-liberal opinion, you are an alt-right racist. That sure was a breeze and it saved me from having to step outside my bubble.
    Made up? Then why do you have "alt right" people calling themselves alt right if it is only made up by the left?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Dracula View Post
    Yes. Yes I do.

    Intimidation through Violence.
    Banning of certain speech.
    Group/Gang like bullying of any thought not in line with their own.
    Discrimination or hate put towards certain groups of people.
    Manipulation/Propaganda of Media

    All things done historically by fascists, also being done by the current Left.
    Both sides have factions that intimidate through violence. More people have been victims of conservative domestic terrorism in the US than Muslim terroism in the past decade.

    What speech has been banned again?

    The right does that.

    Seriously?

    Fox, Brietbart, Infowars, etc.

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    Do you know why the Alt-Right works?

    Because Hippy Dippy Liberals that are so eager to get offended by ANYTHING.

    So the Alt-Right instead decides to just overwhelm them with anything and everything that CAN be offensive.

    The reason it started was because of Pepe being an inside joke and then someone saw it and said it was a symbol of Anti-Semitism.

    Now the Alt-Right is a rejection of ideals that the Left are pursuing, Censorship, Group Think, and Virtue Signaling.

    We're all incredibly selfish to a degree that has not been seen before in Mankind since the Romans, AntiFa leaders cry out that the United States is a Racist Sexist Patriarchy but also want to have others join in on this Country that keeps black people down apparently.

    Black Lives Matter and AntiFa hiss and scowl at the slavery that Blacks endured in the formative years of the United States, yet I'm pretty sure most of them use an Iphone or at least an Android. Those very items are the culmination of the new version of Slave Labor in the 21st century (Chinese workshop labor is so bad they had to install nets to prevent people killing themselves)

    Shia LeBeouf made numerous 'artistic' displays of how Trump will not divide the US. However any dissent between group think is met with ridicule and violence, in effect helping to divide the country between Left and Right.

    Anita Sarkeesian, one of the biggest gag-worthy human beings in existence has perpetuated the idea that America is a Patriarchy with women at the highest spot on the totem pole of victimhood.

    The problem is the lack of understanding and self awareness on the left. While the right isn't any better in regards to climate change or investing in future technologies, I daresay I would rather wait a bit longer to get fuel efficient cars rather than side with a group that wants to make 'hate speech' a crime akin to assault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rym View Post
    The difference between this thread and that thread is, that this thread isnt invoking lies.
    Except it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SherriMayim View Post
    Do you know why the Alt-Right works?

    Because Hippy Dippy Liberals that are so eager to get offended by ANYTHING.

    So the Alt-Right instead decides to just overwhelm them with anything and everything that CAN be offensive.

    The reason it started was because of Pepe being an inside joke and then someone saw it and said it was a symbol of Anti-Semitism.

    Now the Alt-Right is a rejection of ideals that the Left are pursuing, Censorship, Group Think, and Virtue Signaling.

    We're all incredibly selfish to a degree that has not been seen before in Mankind since the Romans, AntiFa leaders cry out that the United States is a Racist Sexist Patriarchy but also want to have others join in on this Country that keeps black people down apparently.

    Black Lives Matter and AntiFa hiss and scowl at the slavery that Blacks endured in the formative years of the United States, yet I'm pretty sure most of them use an Iphone or at least an Android. Those very items are the culmination of the new version of Slave Labor in the 21st century (Chinese workshop labor is so bad they had to install nets to prevent people killing themselves)

    Shia LeBeouf made numerous 'artistic' displays of how Trump will not divide the US. However any dissent between group think is met with ridicule and violence, in effect helping to divide the country between Left and Right.

    Anita Sarkeesian, one of the biggest gag-worthy human beings in existence has perpetuated the idea that America is a Patriarchy with women at the highest spot on the totem pole of victimhood.

    The problem is the lack of understanding and self awareness on the left. While the right isn't any better in regards to climate change or investing in future technologies, I daresay I would rather wait a bit longer to get fuel efficient cars rather than side with a group that wants to make 'hate speech' a crime akin to assault.
    And this is why there is a chance that Trump will be reelected. The only reason it seems so dismal is that constant headlines that are reported in ways to make people think everything is doom and gloom when there is no new news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SherriMayim View Post
    Do you know why the Alt-Right works?

    Because Hippy Dippy Liberals that are so eager to get offended by ANYTHING.
    Lol I found the comment funny, meanwhile random right people get offended because I'm gay.

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    Considering Antifa's actions I consider more terrorist and neo-nazi than anyone else right now. They only get away with so much of the shit they do because they're doing it in the West.
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    Quote Originally Posted by purebalance View Post
    Except it is.
    And where is that lie? Your arguments are, once again, not very astounding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanEX View Post
    Considering Antifa's actions I consider more terrorist and neo-nazi than anyone else right now. They only get away with so much of the shit they do because they're doing it in the West.
    What terrorist attacks have antifa done?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    You can say all those things, but they just aren't true - not in the way you are referring. If someone is banning racist speech, that's not a bad thing. You need to keep in mind that context is very important.

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    Yeah, it really is, at least for the most part, and certainly how the Trumpette's and their blind legion spread it out.
    Bernie also appealed to populism to try and get nominated. Is he as bad as the hairpiece in charge?

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    The amount of right-wing triggering in this thread would be funny, if only you guys could see yourself.

    Any label ya'll apply to "the left" is easily appliable to you. Horseshoes and all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belize View Post
    Any label ya'll apply to "the left" is easily appliable to you. Horseshoes and all.
    The difference is that there are labels which are true, and labels which arent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazyyrogue View Post
    You're right, they fall more in line with Stalin/Mao style authoritarian communism, apples to oranges though, both are fucking insane
    Even then fundamentally that's an error Antifa isn't authoritarian. They're Anarchocommunists, they have no interest whatsoever with the government, they simply believe in using force to bully those that disagree with them into accepting their view points.

    That being said "Stalinism" is just another word for fascism. In a fascist society there is only the state, it controls every aspect of life from media, commerce and industry. All serve the state, and those that would pose a threat to the state are exterminated. The only difference is the justification they use, whether it's racial or populist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Assbandit View Post
    It's not just 4chan though. 4chan, especially /pol, used to almost never have a centralized theme to their madness but if you take an honest look at the content of their "jokes" there is a definite pattern which signals a shift in ideology or demographic. I've also seen discontent from old 4chan posters who enjoyed shitposting complain now that it just isn't the same when shitposting is being targeted towards certain topics rather than everything being game.

    If it was just limited to 4chan then you would be absolutely correct. The same theme can be seen from comments on Breitbart, Stormfront, Infowars, and r/the_donald. For your initial premise to be true there is no way there would be a common ground across that many and more conservative media outlets.
    The only trend I notice is that the worlds smallest violin is being played for anti-semitism(it even gets its own word). Breitbart was a Jew, so is Milo. Infowars is not anti Semitic and Reddit and pol are satire. As long as Jews are disproportionately rich and intelligent they will be targets of jokes, just like everyone else

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    Quote Originally Posted by satimy View Post
    The only trend I notice is that the worlds smallest violin is being played for anti-semitism(it even gets its own word). Breitbart was a Jew, so is Milo. Infowars is not anti Semitic and Reddit and pol are satire. As long as Jews are disproportionately rich and intelligent they will be targets of jokes, just like everyone else
    Breitbart was a Jew, but he no longer runs that rag; Milo is a troll who doesn't care about anything. And Reddit and /pol being satire? No, the word you're looking for is trolling, not satire.
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    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maklor View Post
    Ehhh no, it is a term they invented themselves - as opposed to the alt left which is made up as a derogatory term.
    Actually no. Alt left was made by liberals, because they thought they could win using similar tactics as alt right. They failed, what can I say. It's ridiculous, gender being fluid like a rainbow is a meme because it's ridiculous bullshit, it's already a meme, you can't "meme" it into it becoming a norm, like alt righters did with some things that couldn't be said just 5 years ago.

    Alt left is a joke. And we didn't even make it. Left is destroying itself.

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    The alt right and its neo nazis just replaced the jews of the 20th century as scapegoat with the muslims of the 21st century.

    At the end it is the same basic scheme: Taking the believers of a world religion as scapegoat for every evil in the world. And questioning their rights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurin View Post
    "“What is the worldly religion of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly God? Money.…. Money is the jealous god of Israel, in face of which no other god may exist. Money degrades all the gods of man – and turns them into commodities…. The bill of exchange is the real god of the Jew. His god is only an illusory bill of exchange…. The chimerical nationality of the Jew is the nationality of the merchant, of the man of money in general.”"

    -some leftist guy in the 1800s
    Are you really bringing up Karl Marx to prove your point? Really?
    Well here you go bud, http://forward.com/news/breaking-new...pean-or-white/
    I can find hundreds of sources on the alt-right hatred towards Jews, but instead of linking more, i'll just suggest checking out /pol/ or any alt-right subreddit.

    But please, continue spouting off someone from the 1800s, when politics was VERY different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by b2121945 View Post
    Actually no. Alt left was made by liberals, because they thought they could win using similar tactics as alt right. They failed, what can I say. It's ridiculous, gender being fluid like a rainbow is a meme because it's ridiculous bullshit, it's already a meme, you can't "meme" it into it becoming a norm, like alt righters did with some things that couldn't be said just 5 years ago.
    There is no such thing as the 'alt left'; whereas alt-right was a term created by the group it describes to mark them as distinct from modern neoconservatism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nasuuna View Post
    theres actually two factions of alt-right

    the Richard Spencer socialist/white supremacist (dunno why the are called right when they are authoritarian socialists /shrug)

    and what you posted, the social liberal/economic conservative is pushing the richard spencers out.
    The only difference between these two factions is that they can't agree if they should hate jews openly or not, they won't see a jew as a white person and see them as a different race but one side just won't go full nazi on their ass.

    They are happy to agree with everything else.

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