How are alt rights not just Neo Nazis?

[Elba]

A because the alt-right doesn't exclude non-whites, or Jews.
B because Antifa are the fascists.

a) That's the alt light. The Alt Right wants a white ethno state and asks the Jewish question.

b) As was shown in the other thread, antifa have no political overlap with fascism. They are anarcho communists, the polar opposite. Punching someone not a Nazi make.

[Elba]

Left wing extremists are violent and even kill, just as well as right wing extremists.

Who did antifa kill?

[Heladys]

Who did antifa kill?

Richard Spencer's tenuous hold on self-respect.

[Theinquisition]

Well, to folks that associate with ANTIFA or sympathize with them, everyone right of trotsky is a alt-right nazi.

[SherriMayim]

Actually as a lefty European I do think the USA should pay a shit ton of reparations to NAs. Also AAs.

Sounds good!

If you're English, you can send checks made out to various Native American reservations for your nations part in Colonizing the North Americas.

If you're Spanish then you can send money to Brazil and Mexico for the atrocities of the Cortez Campaign.

If you're Polish/German/Austrian then you can send money to my paypal account for your nations role in allowing the Holocaust to happen.

If you're French. You can send double the money, first for turning over Jews to German interrogators, then trying to cover up your 'heroism' of the French Resistance.

If you're Irish/Scottish, you're cool, send an Invoice to the English for all their bullshit over the past thousand years.

If you're Native American, send an invoice to the other Native Americans who sold your people out and or conquered them causing the disparity of power in the North Americas.

If you're Dutch or from the Netherlands, please send checks payable to African Americans for creating a business model based on enslaving them.

If you're Black, send an invoice to the other Africans for selling your ancestors to Dutch people.

if you're African, send a check payable to Black people for enslaving them and selling them to Dutch people.

[Daneman]

Who did antifa kill?

Leading figures in AFA in Sweden have boasted about being suspected of murder on political opponents and not being convicted for it. I find it likely they did commit those murders but walked due to lack of evidence.

[SherriMayim]

Israel is the problem by the fact that they are an occupational power who stole the land from the natives.

According to Ottoman statistics studied by Justin McCarthy,[29] the population of Palestine in the early 19th century was 350,000, in 1860 it was 411,000 and in 1900 about 600,000 of which 94% were Arabs. In 1914 Palestine had a population of 657,000 Muslim Arabs, 81,000 Christian Arabs, and 59,000 Jews.[30]

...Right because Jews have never lived in the area and had no claim to it.

Palestine doesn't want a free nation, they want a Muslim Controlled Country to bring into a Caliphate.

There's roughly 50 Muslim Countries in the world, yet having ONE Jewish country is such a big offense to people?

[Elba]

Do you know why the Alt-Right works?

Because Hippy Dippy Liberals that are so eager to get offended by ANYTHING.

Don't know about you, but I think any decent person is offended by racism, sexism or other bigotry.

So the Alt-Right instead decides to just overwhelm them with anything and everything that CAN be offensive.

"I'm not a Nazi, I just LARP as one to trigger people."

The reason it started was because of Pepe being an inside joke and then someone saw it and said it was a symbol of Anti-Semitism.

Like the swastika, symbols aren't inherently fascist, but if fascists make certain symbols their own they become part of fascist iconography.

Now the Alt-Right is a rejection of ideals that the Left are pursuing, Censorship, Group Think, and Virtue Signaling.

None of those are leftist ideals.

We're all incredibly selfish to a degree that has not been seen before in Mankind since the Romans, AntiFa leaders cry out that the United States is a Racist Sexist Patriarchy but also want to have others join in on this Country that keeps black people down apparently.

Black Lives Matter and AntiFa hiss and scowl at the slavery that Blacks endured in the formative years of the United States, yet I'm pretty sure most of them use an Iphone or at least an Android. Those very items are the culmination of the new version of Slave Labor in the 21st century (Chinese workshop labor is so bad they had to install nets to prevent people killing themselves)

Shia LeBeouf made numerous 'artistic' displays of how Trump will not divide the US. However any dissent between group think is met with ridicule and violence, in effect helping to divide the country between Left and Right.

Nah, idiocy is met with ridicule. Open bigotry to someone's face might be met with catching some hands.

Anita Sarkeesian, one of the biggest gag-worthy human beings in existence has perpetuated the idea that America is a Patriarchy with women at the highest spot on the totem pole of victimhood.

Oh no, video game feminism is taking our games away! The end of Western civilization is nigh!

The problem is the lack of understanding and self awareness on the left. While the right isn't any better in regards to climate change or investing in future technologies,

We understand the right actually pretty well. That's why we see through their bullshit constant relabeling. Nazi > white nationalist > alt Right > identitarian.

I daresay I would rather wait a bit longer to get fuel efficient cars rather than side with a group that wants to make 'hate speech' a crime akin to assault.

Hate speech isn't assault, but something that has and should have social consequences.

[NineSpine]

Because I don't have any feelings of hatred towed anyone based on skin color. I also have absolutely zero animosity twords Jewish people. I often even forget they are considered a diff race or whatever. My right wing beliefs are a direct response to the lefts frothing insanity and social conditioning. Just because you don't belive some people can really hate identity politics without being racist doesn't mean it's true. In fact I find identity politics inherently racist.

The right thrives on identity politics, so your point is nonsensical.

[truckboattruck]

They already do this, notice how Spencer promotes ethnic cleaning of 'non-whites'?


I'm sure neo-nazis have it terrible that they are made out for nazis.



Spencer? A socialist?

lol

neo nazis wish they were nazis
but that doesnt make them nazis.

and yes spencer openly claims he thinks socialism works and is the future

[Elba]

If you're Polish/German/Austrian then you can send money to my paypal account for your nations role in allowing the Holocaust to happen.

We already did. Thanks for your concern, though.

[NineSpine]

According to Ottoman statistics studied by Justin McCarthy,[29] the population of Palestine in the early 19th century was 350,000, in 1860 it was 411,000 and in 1900 about 600,000 of which 94% were Arabs. In 1914 Palestine had a population of 657,000 Muslim Arabs, 81,000 Christian Arabs, and 59,000 Jews.[30]

...Right because Jews have never lived in the area and had no claim to it.

Palestine doesn't want a free nation, they want a Muslim Controlled Country to bring into a Caliphate.

There's roughly 50 Muslim Countries in the world, yet having ONE Jewish country is such a big offense to people?

There are a lot more Christian nations than Zoroastrian nations. How about we take your land and give it to zoroastrians since they don't have a country yet? Oh, you wouldn't like that?

Your post actually shows the exact problem:

657,000 Muslim Arabs, 81,000 Christian Arabs, and 59,000 Jews.

Why would a territory containing those demographics be turned into an religious ethno-state for the Jews?

[Elba]

According to Ottoman statistics studied by Justin McCarthy,[29] the population of Palestine in the early 19th century was 350,000, in 1860 it was 411,000 and in 1900 about 600,000 of which 94% were Arabs. In 1914 Palestine had a population of 657,000 Muslim Arabs, 81,000 Christian Arabs, and 59,000 Jews.[30]

...Right because Jews have never lived in the area and had no claim to it.

Palestine doesn't want a free nation, they want a Muslim Controlled Country to bring into a Caliphate.

There's roughly 50 Muslim Countries in the world, yet having ONE Jewish country is such a big offense to people?

No problem with a Jewish country. Just built it on your own land, not the one taken from others.

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The leader of Swedish revolutionary front is in jail for attempt murder, violence and abuse towards a minor. The attempt murder was him stabbing a Nazi in the back several times with a knife.
There are still demonstrations from the left to have him released. After all, he only stabbed a guy with the wrong political views.

So he didn't actually kill him?

Number of lefty murders, still 0. Noice.

I am sure you guys will find one or two fringe cases. Nothing is ever 100% clear cut, buuuuuuuuuuuut lefty violence still and forever pales in comparison to right wing violence.

[NineSpine]

The leader of Swedish revolutionary front is in jail for attempt murder, violence and abuse towards a minor. The attempt murder was him stabbing a Nazi in the back several times with a knife.
There are still demonstrations from the left to have him released. After all, he only stabbed a guy with the wrong political views.

In the US, we are a little busy with the right wingers that commit mass murders and bomb buildings, but I appreciate how one dude stabbing another might be a big deal in a country that doesn't have the right wing violence we do.

[Daneman]

So he didn't actually kill him?

Number of lefty murders, still 0. Noice.

I am sure you guys will find one or two fringe cases. Nothing is ever 100% clear cut, buuuuuuuuuuuut lefty violence still and forever pales in comparison to right wing violence.

There's close to no right wing violence in the nordic countries, it's mostly left wing.

[Spiffums]

"Alt right" is a made up catch-all label for people who don't agree with the liberal echo-chamber. It's much easier to instantly dismiss them and brand them as racist, xenophobic, and misogynists instead of having actual debate. Basically if you disagree with my morally superior ultra-liberal opinion, you are an alt-right racist. That sure was a breeze and it saved me from having to step outside my bubble.

So they are Nazi's......like literally!! haha

[Elba]

Ya, no. Nice one tho.

Muh white genocide. Muh war on Christmas. Muh bathrooms.

[NineSpine]

Ya, no. Nice one tho.

Trump became popular on the right by appealing to a conspiracy theory that the black president must be a secret African who shouldn't be allowed to be president. Two major planks of his platform were banning Muslims from the country and building a wall to protect us from Mexicans.

I don't think you know what identity politics is.

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Muh white genocide. Muh war on Christmas. Muh bathrooms.

THE COAL MINERS THE COAL MINERS THE COAL MINERS THE COAL MINERS

[Jeezy911]

I have a bunch of wight wing friends and acquaintances but have never met this mythical Alt -Right creature. I thought Milo is the leader of the Alt right, which doesn't make sense being gay and such. Ben Shapiro? More conventional conservatism. Anne Coulter? Probably the closest thing, but she has been around politics forever and I thought this Alt right was the new blood?

[Elba]

THE COAL MINERS THE COAL MINERS THE COAL MINERS THE COAL MINERS

50 thousand jobs! Let's fuck the entire planet and fall behind in future technologies for 50k people who could be retrained for a fraction of the costs of trying to prob them up in a failing industry that will die to automation no matter what we do!