How are alt rights not just Neo Nazis?

[Machismo]

Anarchy = chaos

I'm not condoning or defending them in any way - but they are not authoritarian, authoritarian means the are part of a group that supports an oppressive regime and they don't.

Well, they certainly want to force their views onto others, and are willing to use violence to do so. The use of violence is authority.

[Flarelaine]

Germany did have to pay massive reparations. They paid over $600B to Poland alone. They even had large chunks of land annexed by other nations in order to compensate them.

Well, more like they had huge chunks of land annexed by Poland to compensate the Poles... for even huger chunks of land the Soviets annexed from them.

[Zecora]

Richard Spencer is quite the White Nationalist, but that is the only thing about him that is exactly "Nazi" esq.

With the big government, government takeover of business, high regimentation of the people and the restricting of rights I will never understand how Fascism can be called a Right Wing form of government.

To put it in more understandable terms:
Right Wingers think: The state can't be trusted to handle much of anything
Fascists think, and I quote: "All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state" - Benito Mussolini.

Either fascists are left wing or fascists don't fit on the right-left spectrum. But to me with the state basically running everything and all businesses and workers answering to the state it sounds like Fascism and Communism have more in common than not in common.

There is nothing inherent to right-wing politics in general that prohibits a large and strong state. In fact, the "Big gubberment's eeevil" line is something that has crept in mainly in the US, in opposition to social safety nets. Capitalism co-exists quite well with a large and powerful government (see China, where they have managed to combined the worst aspects of authoritatian "communism" and capitalism), and the roots of the "right wing" was after all the conservation of power in the hands of the royalty and those with money and power, which is achieved just as well with a large state, so long as it doesn't interfer (or preferably actively upholds) their money, power and priviledge.

As for the underlined, many right-wingers think that in the US, but FAR from all. Those who do are right-wingers not BECAUSE they believe that, but they believe that BECAUSE they are right-wingers.

[Flarelaine]

The French or Polish had the right to kill the shit out of us Germans.

That is probably true and yet through all the stories of partisans or La Résistance I fail to recall widespread targeting of noncombatants.

[Scathbais]

0% of this post is worthwhile.

There is a difference between being a Jew and being a Zionist. The latter is an extremist, and their attitudes are why Palestinians live in fear every single god damn day.

If you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, be quiet. Thanks.

I am pretty certain Zionism doesn't mean what you think it does, but it just literally means a Jewish state in Israel. All Israeli Jews are Zionists. That is literally what I wrote, what is in their declaration of Independence and what is in the 1947 UN a Jewish state.

What I see in this thread is deliberate confusion between anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism just to avoid criticism of anti-Jewish sentiment on the left.

Hint: your opinion on the value of my post means nothing to me. However, logical well-thought arguments mean a great deal to me. You could try starting there instead.

[raz98]

a) That's the alt light. The Alt Right wants a white ethno state and asks the Jewish question.

b) As was shown in the other thread, antifa have no political overlap with fascism. They are anarcho communists, the polar opposite. Punching someone not a Nazi make.

+ brownshirt tactics of assault political opponents.

[Elba]

Congratulations, you just stated another prime example of extreme right terrorism.

So umm, thank you for supporting us?

This. It doesn't get more right wing than religious fundamentalism.

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-SNIP- + brownshirt tactics of assault political opponents.

Some random burning a sign not a fascist make. And kek calling punching Spencer in the face brown shirt tactics. More like hilarious tactics.

You know that fascism has specific qualifiers that go beyond hitting people, right? (Google is free, btw)

[raz98]

Some random burning a sign not a fascist make. And kek calling punching Spencer in the face brown shirt tactics. More like hilarious tactics.

You know that fascism has specific qualifiers that go beyond hitting people, right? (Google is free, btw)

You can use mocking to deflect all you want, but thats how these things start. Punching people, hitting them with bike locks, burning flags, burning books. Thats how it started in Germany: violence against non-combats and the destruction of objects that represented opposing views, and I dont want to live in an America where Antifa gets its way.
I prefer Bing myself.

[JohnBrown1917]

You can use mocking to deflect all you want, but thats how these things start. Punching people, hitting them with bike locks, burning flags, burning books. Thats how it started in Germany: violence against non-combats and the destruction of objects that represented opposing views, and I dont want to live in an America where Antifa gets its way.
I prefer Bing myself.

Its okay, not everybody understands fascism.

[raz98]

Its okay, not everybody understands fascism.

Beating down opposition is part of Fascism.

[Zecora]

Beating down opposition is part of Fascism.

It is an incidental part, not a defining part. But like Gilrak said, it's okay, not everybody understands fascism (or even have an idea what it is, beyond a buzzword).

[Elba]

I prefer Bing myself.

It -is- better for porn, indeed.

[schwank05]

Why are there so many damn labels for people when it comes to politics? I don't get it I mean hell yeah I voted for Trump, but that is because he is a Business man and the country should be run like a business not a charity where we give everything and get nothing in return.

[JohnBrown1917]

Why are there so many damn labels for people when it comes to politics? I don't get it I mean hell yeah I voted for Trump, but that is because he is a Business man and the country should be run like a business not a charity where we give everything and get nothing in return.

Because that is how we describe ideologies?

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Beating down opposition is part of Fascism.

And it does not define it.

[Jeezy911]

Never heard of Richard Spencer?

Heard of him yes, but his influence is relatively small.

[Venant]

Because that is how we describe ideologies?

You know, we have alt-right people moderating on this forum now right? I doubt they would appoint literal Nazis to be mods.

[JohnBrown1917]

You know, we have alt-right people moderating on this forum now right? I doubt they would appoint literal Nazis to be mods.

Oh how far MMO-C has fallen if it accepts mods who support ethnic cleaning and other nazi-like ideas, but is totez not a nazi. They just like Hitler's ideas, thats all.

[KyrtF]

As far as I can see...that's what they are.

Just rebranded to be more acceptable.

[Gaexion Ramza Beoulve]

wew...lad.

[Alexeht]

I believe the alt right is nothing but a modern version of the old already known nazi agenda of the early 20th century

And I believe that left and far left are blind to real issues and this is why alt right was made. This is what happen when people tolerance is unlimited.

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Oh how far MMO-C has fallen if it accepts mods who support ethnic cleaning and other nazi-like ideas, but is totez not a nazi. They just like Hitler's ideas, thats all.

lol

Do you even have anything to backup your asinine assumptions? Or you just like to talk smack?