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What people do in their spare time is none of a companies business and if recruiters can't tell the difference between a junkie during an interview and someone who uses drugs recreationally they are in the wrong line of work since with opiods especially it's very obvious, not to mention there is always the social control construct of your fellow workers.
I'd be the first to not be employed at that company. I'd wager that such a company would basically just not have employees at all.
There's a pretty straightforward difference between literally eating shit and asking that applicants not be engaged in illegal drug consumption though, right? I guess not, for the "fight the power" crew.
Drug tests are stupid. Most hard drugs are out of peoples system in a few days at the most. Marijuana is the only "drug" that stays in your system for weeks and it's the least dangerous / impairing. If someone doesn't want to hire a person because they smoke weed they better not approve of anything. Caffeine is more dangerous.
I do not function well enough to work safely and efficiently when I smoke. No one does, and if they are saying they do, it's a lie, mostly to themselves. My argument is that they need actual drug tests that work if they are going to implement them in the first place. I'd love a test I can give to people that could tell me if they are high RIGHT NOW, not if they smoked a joint a week ago. But they don't have it, so the whole system is pointless and a joke.
The problem isn't "idiots being high". It's idiots.
My previous employer drug tested us on average every 4-6 weeks, and always before or after a holiday. It was a mild annoyance, but I got paid to stand around for a couple hours until I actually needed to piss. It was more annoying to have those people standing next to you, watching your dick to make sure you are actually urinating in the cup.
I've never done drugs, but I don't see an issue with employers wanting their workers not under the influence when they can put peoples lives in danger.
And I saw, and behold, a pale horse: and he that sat upon him, his name was Death; and Hades followed with him. And there was given unto them authority over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with famine, and with death, and by the wild beasts of the earth.
The whole problem is blue collar workers are treated as second class in the US unlike somewhere such as Germany. Combine this with social media which makes everyone feel inadequate and the decline of rural communities and you end up with the current drug problems.
Most countries don't have legal high drug usage lol rather simple really, so this problem doesn't arise, ie its illegal lol
This is a new problem and yes it IS a problem, would you condone everyone one turning up to work drunk on alcohol, I seriously hope not,
drugs are the same even if legal. Why you advocate double standards is also concerning.
Last edited by Shakari; 2017-07-30 at 05:20 PM.
Science has made us gods even before we are worthy of being men: Jean Rostand. Yeah, Atheism is a religion like bald is a hair colour!.
Classic: "The tank is the driver, the healer is the fuel, and the DPS are the kids sitting in the back seat screaming and asking if they're there yet."
Irony >> "do they even realize that having a state religion IS THE REASON WE LEFT BRITTEN? god these people are idiots"
You probably aren't paying enough. Why don't the other 60% get hired?
If you have so many positions open that you need to recruit more than half your prospective employees, there's something else going on.
Thats not the point of the topic though its the fact that nearly half the potential workforce is intelligible for employment because of drugs use.
Science has made us gods even before we are worthy of being men: Jean Rostand. Yeah, Atheism is a religion like bald is a hair colour!.
Classic: "The tank is the driver, the healer is the fuel, and the DPS are the kids sitting in the back seat screaming and asking if they're there yet."
Irony >> "do they even realize that having a state religion IS THE REASON WE LEFT BRITTEN? god these people are idiots"
Given that operating conditions can get you shut down as a company, and allowing people who cannot focus due to working under the influence of drugs to operate heavy equipment isn't exactly a great operating condition, I don't see how you could consider the alternative an "option".