[TV/Books] Game of Thrones ***SPOILER Discussion***

[I Push Buttons]

Its like D&D are over it and want to get to the end soon as possible

More like its HBO with that opinion... The show is super expensive to make now.

"Nikolaj Coster-Waldau, Emilia Clarke, Kit Harington, Peter Dinklage and Lena Headey are set to become the highest-paid actors in television history, with an approximate $2.5 million salary per episode in Season 7."

That's $90,000,000 just to pay the five main actors just for this seven episode season alone...

[Absintheminded]

"Actual expensive" That's bullshit and you know it, they are raining in money with GoT.

What the fuck are you talking about? All I'm saying is for people to stop crying because the stuff we've seen this far hasn't been mind-melting, when we're not even halfway through the season. We know a battle with dragons is coming and we know a battle with White Walkers is coming. Hold on to your horses, people.

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The battle scenes were short, because those battles were not that important. What is important is that Dany's, I mean Tyrion's plans were thwarted by Cersei. The important battle will be when Dany decides to follow Olenna's advice, be a dragon and ride with her Dothraki horde and Drogon to break the siege of Casterly Rock.

There won't be a siege of casterly rock because casterly rock is worthless. That was the whole point of the episode was that they outsmarted Dany by leaving only a fraction of their men there and then Euron sunk their fleet, effectively taking the Unsullied out of the picture.

[BarelyLegalBear]

What the fuck are you talking about? All I'm saying is for people to stop crying because the stuff we've seen this far hasn't been mind-melting, when we're not even halfway through the season. We know a battle with dragons is coming and we know a battle with White Walkers is coming. Hold on to your horses, people.

I mean, it's the last two seasons of GoT before it ends. We kind of want it to be mind-melting, you know? Personally not a huge deal to me because I deal with the same thing with TWD.

[Absintheminded]

I mean, it's the last two seasons of GoT before it ends. We kind of want it to be mind-melting, you know? Personally not a huge deal to me because I deal with the same thing with TWD.

As a fan I agree, but I still think it's unrealistic for us to expect a Hardhome or BotB every single episode. I have faith in the showrunners that they're giving us the best product they possibly can.

[Ilikegreenfire]

I mean, it's the last two seasons of GoT before it ends. We kind of want it to be mind-melting, you know? Personally not a huge deal to me because I deal with the same thing with TWD.

4-7 is where it heats up, you have to have some build up tho, it cant all be climax.

[BarelyLegalBear]

As a fan I agree, but I still think it's unrealistic for us to expect a Hardhome or BotB every single episode. I have faith in the showrunners that they're giving us the best product they possibly can.

I don't expect every single episode of the season to be spectacular, it's just that I hate how some shows are done. One or two big moments in an entire season? I want to WANT that next Sunday to hurry the hell up. Black Sails for instance, every episode had you wanting the next week to come faster.

[truckboattruck]

i just want the dragons to die, will probably only get one though

[BarelyLegalBear]

i just want the dragons to die, will probably only get one though

Reddit is dark and full of spoilers. I just couldn't contain myself last week and read everything that's going to happen this season. Just going to say you will more than likely get your wish!

[Ilikegreenfire]

I don't expect every single episode of the season to be spectacular, it's just that I hate how some shows are done. One or two big moments in an entire season? I want to WANT that next Sunday to hurry the hell up. Black Sails for instance, every episode had you wanting the next week to come faster.

Dany landing on Dragonstone wasn't big?

Euron capturing/killing the sandsnakes wasn't big?

Dany meeting Jon wasn't big......

Dany wiping out a massive portion of the lannister army and almost killing Jamie isn't big?

The formation of the fellowship of the wight hunt isn't big?

Visarion Dying and getting resurrected isn't big.

Epic boat sex isnt big?

There is something pretty fucking bigh for every episode of this season, and i was just sticking to one thing per episode, i didn't even bring up the fact that it is reveled Jon is a legitimate Targarian .

[truckboattruck]

Reddit is dark and full of spoilers. I just couldn't contain myself last week and read everything that's going to happen this season. Just going to say you will more than likely get your wish!

cheers to you sir

[Fincayra]

I know that Bran is a mystic now, but I believe he should have shown at least a little emotion when he saw Sansa. Speaking of whom, it looks like Sansa has the Kingdom well in hand. Although I don't believe her demand of grain will make her popular with the lords... LF is still, well, LF and woeing Sansa. "Treat everyone as an enemy, and everyone as a friend." Good advice Petyr. I'm sure Sansa will remember it...

Bran has seen him meeting his sister before. I'm sure he was overjoyed to see his sister after such a time, in his visions. He has been tempered by visions we wouldn't even begin to imagine, such as watching his sister being raped on her wedding night, watching her kill Ramsay, and countless other atrocities. I think his jaded performance underlies that. He's seen a lot more in the intervening time since The Door. To me the greeting was fitting. He is aged far beyond his years, after seeing the past, present and future all in such a short time.

[BarelyLegalBear]

Dany landing on Dragonstone wasn't big?

Euron capturing/killing the sandsnakes wasn't big?

Dany meeting Jon wasn't big......

Dany wiping out a massive portion of the lannister army and almost killing Jamie isn't big?

The formation of the fellowship of the wight hunt isn't big?

Visarion Dying and getting resurrected isn't big.

Epic boat sex isnt big?

There is something pretty fucking bigh for every episode of this season, and i was just sticking to one thing per episode, i didn't even bring up the fact that it is reveled Jon is a legitimate Targarian .

Dany Landing on Dragonstone was a pivotal moment, it was inevitable. Euron doing his thing was amazing, i've commented on that and was very happy about that scene. I'm looking forward to the rest of the season, never said I hate the show, just don't like how some episodes are slow or too fast in terms of progressing the story. Even though the fight at Highgarden was one-sided, it would of been nice to see that. I love a good story and we are definitely getting that this season. My point is that previous seasons have had episodes that could have just been cut, don't want that for these last two seasons. Maybe it's just me having high expectations!

Oh and have you not seen my avatar? I'm clearly a Jon fanboy and anything with him/dany are going to be great for me. Except for the council meeting that occurred during this episode. Hate how she feels entitled to everything. That food you're eating over there? You realize i'm the mother of dragons, give me that loaf of bread!

[melodramocracy]

Not digging the pacing / writing so far this season at all. Euron and his magical always-at-the-right-place boats are far too convenient, and that opening dialogue between JS and DT was some of the lamest shit on this show yet, considering how long it's been building up to that.

[Ilikegreenfire]

Dany leading on Dragonstone was a pivotal moment, it was inevitable. Euron doing his thing was amazing, i've commented on that and was very happy about that scene. I'm looking forward to the rest of the season, never said I hate the show, just don't like how some episodes are slow or too fast in terms of progressing the story. Even though the fight at Highgarden was one-sided, it would of been nice to see that. I love a good story and we are definitely getting that this season. My point is that previous seasons have had episodes that could have just been cut, don't want that for these last two seasons. Maybe it's just me having high expectations!

Oh and have you not seen my avatar? I'm clearly a Jon fanboy and anything with him/dany are going to be great for me. Except for the council meeting that occurred during this episode. Hate how she feels entitled to everything. That food you're eating over there? You realize i'm the mother of dragons, give me that loaf of bread!

Being inevitable doesn't not make something big R+L+ J was inevitable and big. Epic boat sex was inevitable, i mean its fucking called a song of ice and fire, and its probably the biggest event in the universe's history.

Tarly was the military might of the reach and he took many lords with him, Olenna didn't have jack shit without him or his men, likely just highguarden's garrison. It would have been like the battle at the rock without Tyrion getting one upped by Cersei There was really no filler in rhis episode they could have taken minutes from to devote to another battle, even then battles are costly. You can have expectation but its still la Tv show ran on a budget, yes its wildly successful but as the cgi is used more and more and actor cost skyrocket things balance out its not like its all going into an executive's pocket.

I am actually kind of glad some of the episodes are cut, as we have finally condensed/cut out most of the game/filler and are focusing on the main plot Jon and Dany vs the undead. They have been thinning the herd for quite a while now. Not that i wouldn't watch 3 hours of Jon and and Dany but i doubt that is what would happen with the time. As the filler game ends you need less episodes because you have less characters.

Iirc multiple episodes in season 8 are two hours long.

[BarelyLegalBear]

Being inevitable doesn't not make something big R+L+ J was inevitable and big. Epic boat sex was inevitable, i mean its fucking called a song of ice and fire, and its probably the biggest event in the universe's history.

Tarly was the military might of the reach and he took many lords with him, Olenna didn't have jack shit without him or his men, likely just highguarden's garrison. It would have been like the battle at the rock without Tyrion getting one upped by Cersei There was really no filler in rhis episode they could have taken minutes from to devote to another battle, even then battles are costly. You can have expectation but its still la Tv show ran on a budget, yes its wildly successful but as the cgi is used more and more and actor cost skyrocket things balance out its not like its all going into an executive's pocket.

I am actually kind of glad some of the episodes are cut, as we have finally condensed/cut out most of the game/filler and are focusing on the main plot Jon and Dany vs the undead. They have been thinning the herd for quite a while now. Not that i wouldn't watch 3 hours of Jon and and Dany but i doubt that is what would happen with the time. As the filler game ends you need less episodes because you have less characters.

Iirc multiple episodes in season 8 are two hours long.

Not disagreeing with you at all, lot of valid points. You've won this battle, but there's more to come. R+L=J is the greatest thing to exist to mankind. Now if he's Azor Ahai, then we're fucking talking. Killing half the cast off does help budget wise, and does allow higher quality episodes where they can focus on more important things like boat sex. Here's the real question that I have for you. Will boat sex be better than cave sex?

[Ilikegreenfire]

Not disagreeing with you at all, lot of valid points. You've won this battle, but there's more to come. R+L=J is the greatest thing to exist to mankind. Now if he's Azor Ahai, then we're fucking talking. Killing half the cast off does help budget wise, and does allow higher quality episodes where they can focus on more important things like boat sex. Here's the real question that I have for you. Will boat sex be better than cave sex?

Well

https://www.reddit.com/r/freefolk/co...review_and_qa/

Back to Winterfell…. Jon’s Origin… Bran is visited by Sam who bran recognizes, asks what he is doing there and Sam tells him he needs to see JS, Bran says he also needs to tell him a lot, Sam asks bran what he needs to tell JS, to which bran says that Jon isn’t Ned’s bastard but Lyanna’s and Rhaegar’s son and that he was born in dorne and that his name isn’t Jon Snow but Jon Sand but Sam tells bran that he is not a sand… that he has seen it in record that Raeghar had his marriage with Elia annulled and married Lyanna which shocks Bran…Sam then tells Bran that if he can see into the future and past that he should go see for himself…which Bran then does, which is the wedding between Raeghar and Lyanna in a forest (not in front of a weir wood, Friki says the same way Robb and Talisa were wed) as he sees this he realizes that Roberts rebellion was all based on a lie because Robert was pissed and said that lyanna was kidnapped (Friki doesn’t state that Robert lied on purpose to get the other lords to back him) as this flashback is happening we are switching back and forth between Raeghar with lyanna and Jon and Dany on the boat (HYPPPEEE) as the romantic scene between Raeghar and lyanna happen we see Jon and Dany’s romantic scene… Jon and Dany enter a cabin together (no words are being spoken) in which they begins to take each others clothes off and have as friki said “EL BOATSEX” (girl in the background “woooo wooo wooo”) (no specific sexual positions or how long our boy JS lasted where mentioned) Tyrion is the only one who notices that they are having BOATSEX… as the BOATSEX intensifies we see the scene where Lyanna is in the tower of joy where she tells Ned that the baby’s name is Aegon Targaryen…(friki then brings out his shirt that shows Jon’s snows picture with the word Aegon underneath it) Bran then says Aegon Targaryen is the legitimate heir to the iron throne…. After Arya and sansa finally make up and reconcile Arya tells Sansa she’s the strongest woman she has ever met and Sansa tells her that she could have never achieved the things Arya has and they make up.

This actually makes me think Jon an Dany actually get married, not sure why else Tyrion would be hanging out outside Dany's chambers when he knows she and Jon are starting to become a thing other than to be a witness for the bedding, That or Tyrion is a peeping tom. And given all of Dany's talk about her fertility in the last episodes of the season is pretty safe to say she conceives during the boat sex so ya its gonna be better than cave sex.

[BarelyLegalBear]

This actually makes me think Jon an Dany actually get married, not sure why else Tyrion would be hanging out outside Dany's chambers when he knows she and Jon are starting to become a thing other than to be a witness for the bedding, That or Tyrion is a peeping tom. And given all of Dany's talk about her fertility in the last episodes of the season is pretty safe to say she conceives during the boat sex so ya its gonna be better than cave sex.

I wonder how she'll feel once she realizes Jon is the heir to the throne and that he is also a Targaryen. All I can say is i'm hyped as fuck for episode 7 already.

[Ilikegreenfire]

I wonder how she'll feel once she realizes Jon is the heir to the throne and that he is also a Targaryen. All I can say is i'm hyped as fuck for episode 7 already.

Happy probably, he wont be a threat when they are married and she has his babies, Jon might be a bit weirded out tho.

[Derah]

Well, here's my thoughts for this episode:

1: Kinda sad at how underwhelming Casterly Rock was. That's supposed to be the biggest, fanciest, most awesome castle in the backstory. But here it looked rather small. Something similar can be said of Highgarden. Considering these are two very important places in the lore, and this is the very first time we get to see them, I was expecting more scenery porn out of them. If I'm not mistaken, they're lavishly described in high detail on the books, as some of the most jawdroppingly gorgeous places in Westeros, but here, not only they show up for less than 2 minutes total, their actual appearance is underwhelming. I think Tarly's castle looked more impressive, and that's just sad.

2: There's some serious bad logic behind the people of King's Landing throwing food at the Sand Snakes. Lets put aside the fact that the people HATE Cercei, and if anyone smiles in her general direction, they do so at sword point, isn't Kings Landing supposed to be undergoing a famine right now? People starving, but they somehow have the luxury to throw food at people they barely know and have little reason to hate?

3: Holy shit, was that REALLY Lena naked as Cercei? She used a body double for her walk on shame in Season 5. Don't tell me she actually got over her shyness and did an honest-to-god real nude scene in the show for the first time.

4: God dammit >_> I was hoping Cercei would be taken out within the first 3 episodes, so the rest of the show could be dedicated to the White Walkers. Now apparently, it seems Cersei remains the arc villain for the rest of the season. I sure hope she doesn't make it past season 7. She's lived long enough.

5: Gotta be honest here, while Ellaria's punishment is pretty bad (Watching her kid die, then forced to watch her corpse rot), I was expecting far worse. I was expecting something along the lines of The Mountain giving the Unella Treatment to Tyenne in front of Ellaria. I am VERY glad that wasn't the case.

6: I guess it makes sense for Tyrion to be outgambitted by Jaimie. The Lannisters being flat out broke is a closely guarded secret that Tywin shared with very few people. I'm sure Tyrion thought the wealth of the family was still there, and wasn't expecting them to simply vacate the whole place and sack highgarden instead.

7: Holy shit, even when getting executed, Olenna knows how to go down like a fucking boss. She didn't plead, she didn't beg. She didn't lose her composure or dignity, and just after swallowing the poison, she goes and says "ohh by the way, I killed your boi, be sure to tell Cersei it was me" All that was missing was her dropping her cup mimicking a mic drop. Because that's basically what she did.

8: This episode had a lot of great lines. There's Missandei listing Dany's incredibly long and bloated list of titles, only for Davos to simply counter by saying "He's Jon". Then there's Tyrion remarking how he came to brood over his failure to predict the loss of the fleet, only to notice that Jon looks a lot better brooding than he does. To Euron taunting Jaime about how to have sex with Cersei.

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9: I also gotta love how Littlefinger begins giving yet another of his longwinded spiels to sansa about how she must trust nobody, and blah blah blah, and Sansa just leaves him midsentence the moment ANYTHING comes up

10: I liked the way the Archmaester acted with Sam. Giving him a proper scolding, while also praising his ability to perform a surgery that far better experienced maesters failed to do. I get the feeling that the "chore" he gives Sam to do, is also an actual reward. Sam has been begging for a chance to look at the restricted scriptures, and I just get this feeling that among those scrolls he wants Sam to transcribe, is the stuff he wanted to read from the start.

[Derah]

11: lastly, given how people in this thread react to changes from the books, I'm surprised nobody has mentioned yet at the strange retcon of the Iron Bank stance regarding slavery. I haven't read the books, but a friend of mine who did, said that they are staunch opponents of slavery in the lore, and the idea of them siding with Cersei because Dany's activities have somehow made them lose money was preposterous at best.