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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by LightClaw View Post
    Also the luckiest mofo ever with all his titan forged alts over 910 with only LFR and up to +5's lol.
    Just looking at one of my alts and 4 of its items are titanforged (one item is at 915 for example), 5 are warforged - mostly 900-905 gear and then add 2 ilvl 970 legendaries and you get 910+ easily. Is it tier or good itemisation? Hell no, which was kind of my point why I tend to up my required ilvl as people get more opportunities to obtain WF/TF gear from easy sources like world pvp quests and relinquished tokens. Buying a pvp token gives 895 item by default already so even without WF it's high for people who barely do any content. Also, occasional weekly events such as Mythic dungeon ones (which can be done at 0 difficulty) award ToS HC gear, so yeah. Getting decent ilvl (~910) is piss easy which is why people tend to make sure that the minimum ilvl they require is higher than an average casual would have.
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  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Nakloh View Post
    It sucks balls to try to do +15 on alts because of tryhard ***** looking at your m+ score. Haven't completed every dungeon on +18? Can't invite you to this NL+15.
    wowprogress shows your main score on your alts.

    Personally my score is like 900, I just didn't do all the dungeons, we do +15,16 or 17 every week but we always pick the easiest one to do it ASAP.. so it kind of tells you it's a useless metric on its own. It's only useful if that person has no raiding done and only focus on mythic+ IMO.
    Last edited by Sonnillon; 2017-08-05 at 07:10 PM.

  3. #23
    Its the easiest way for people to track who "knows" what they are doing. I wasnt a big MM+ fan myself but did a few +15 runs (because the gear you can get matches ToS Mythic ilvl, and some trinkets/items can be very strong, so no choice if you want to keep the pace) and trying to go in PUG was useless as I had no experience. With experienced guildmates, I was able to clean them all of time while being top dps and with enough reaction to not die. So it can be frustrating that you know what you're doing, but you don't have the score to "prove" it. But I can understand group leader that wants to have serious players to get 3 chests, and having a good score usually means that you do it often, so you're less likely to leave the group like some people do, which screw up your key lvl if you can't complete it, as you can't reset once its started.

    I see it like a a raid PUG where the Achievement is required to be able to join the group, people want people to know what they are doing, as explaining everything is PUG is quite tedious.

  4. #24
    Post your raid accomplishments as well. Lately I've been linking "Mythic: Desolate Host", 5/9M, "Keystone Master" and rarely denied even from "checking Wowprogress" groups and my wowprog score sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spotnick View Post
    wowprogress shows your main score on your alts.

    Personally my score is like 900, I just didn't do all the dungeons, we do +15,16 or 17 every week but we always pick the easiest one to do it ASAP.. so it kind of tells you it's a useless metric on its own. It's only useful if that person has no raiding done and only focus on mythic+ IMO.
    Just checked and it doesn't. My main has 1600 my alt has 680.
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  6. #26
    I just wish people would be smart about it. I have a +19 arcway on time that isn't too easy. I don't have a high M+ score because I have a zero score for 2.

    Does it really matter that I don't have a 2k score for your +16?

  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Deja Thoris View Post
    I just wish people would be smart about it. I have a +19 arcway on time that isn't too easy. I don't have a high M+ score because I have a zero score for 2.

    Does it really matter that I don't have a 2k score for your +16?
    I personally don't look at the score, but at the amount of +15 done in time and also how many high keys, like a +19, they've done.

  8. #28
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    two things happen quite often and are really funny:

    1: the openers requirements are way higher than his own rating (example: only 2.1k+ I will check WP | his own rating: 1850 without high rating alts linked and sometimes even worse than that)

    2: their rating requirements are sometimes insane for some keys like 2.2k or 2.3k only for a +16 or +17. I mean even if you had played all +17 in time you wouldn't have this rating.

    The funny thing is that a lot of the tryhard high scored players have a fully depleted dungeon portfolio, I don't know if this is a sign of quality. This is an awesome achievement, because even a +18 with a good time would be rated higher than a very bad +20 run. This means they didn't even have a key 1 or 2 levels lower in time.

    The ilvl thing is also quite funny. They looking for 915+, but to get a slot in those groups with 915 is actually quite hard since the queue is full of 925+ or even 930+ plebs, especially on the easier dungeons. The best chance to get a slot in m+ is in dungeons which are usually dodged like coen or kara.
    Last edited by mmoca163a27034; 2017-08-05 at 12:55 AM.

  9. #29
    The score is just a way to filter people. I wowprogress and look at their runs of individual dungeons instead of asking for a specific score. As a tank whenever i'm forming my own groups for the higher keys i'm always looking up people on wow progress to see how many runs they have done to gauge how well they will preform. a 930+ tank can carry keys in in the 2-12 range pretty easily but past that if the dps is simply too low or people aren't familiar with the dungeon/affixes and die every 2 pulls itquickly becomes a shit show and don't wanna spend all day wiping and having a rough time on a dungeon i've done dozens of times already and know inside and out because I invited people who don't know what they're doing.

    The dungeons are harder than ever, and it's easier than ever to be completely fucked in higher keystone dungeons when players aren't familiar with the dungeons/affixes. As a result, people want to make sure their groups aren't complete shit and an entire waste of time, and the m+ score helps facilitate that.

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    I remember in high school in the 1980s, i would beat other kids in games that were more skilled than me. The trick was never to actually try to win. The goal was simply to make my opponent play inefficiently. Kids in the 80s were just as rabidly obsessed with efficiency as wow players are today. If you simply make them inefficient, they would utterly lose their composure and their will would collapse and i would stomp them.

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  11. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Saverem View Post
    Just checked and it doesn't. My main has 1600 my alt has 680.
    Hey, sometimes it is not possible to detect alts correctly. But it is easy to link your alts by yourself. If you registered on WoWProgress, go to https://www.wowprogress.com/profile and press "Sync with Battle.net" button. All your alts will be linked to your profile and your highest M+ Score character will be shown for each of them.
    It is also possible to hide selected alts if you don't want to reveal them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elprofessor View Post
    because even a +18 with a good time would be rated higher than a very bad +20 run. This means they didn't even have a key 1 or 2 levels lower in time.
    That is not entirely true, it is much less punishing. If someone missed timer by 5 seconds only, he gets almost the same amount of points as for just in-time run.
    Very long runs though grant much less points, it is correct.
    Last edited by Kernel; 2017-08-05 at 07:06 AM.

  12. #32
    Farm score on the easy fortified weeks like sanguine/volcanic/fortified. Or just fortified/non-explosive weeks in general. Sanguine/Grievous/Fortified is only a little over a couple weeks off. That said I just look to do the weekly nowadays, so "all you need is one"
    Last edited by MrExcelion; 2017-08-05 at 11:13 AM.

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    I have not experienced this yet, luckily. Reminds me WAY too much of gearscore. Sadly, it is a development of mind, people rather want the safer, easier option.
    FOMO: "Fear Of Missing Out", also commonly known as people with a mental issue of managing time and activities, many expecting others to fit into their schedule so they don't miss out on things to come. If FOMO becomes a problem for you, do seek help, it can be a very unhealthy lifestyle..

  14. #34
    This mythic score elitism is fucken bullshit, you can get points for completing even a 10 and people wanna act elitist over it, most of the people demanding high scores are shitters themselves

  15. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by Nakloh View Post
    It sucks balls to try to do +15 on alts because of tryhard ***** looking at your m+ score. Haven't completed every dungeon on +18? Can't invite you to this NL+15.
    If you have a low scorse, chances are you're useless though. Why take the risk?
    If you don't like it, start your own group. We all get keys.
    Last edited by Sonnillon; 2017-08-05 at 07:10 PM.

  16. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Ealyssa View Post
    Or just link you alt to your main so it shows main's score on wowprogress ?

    Yeah internet is crazy hard.
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    Holy shit

    Can that actually be done?

    The only thing I can do is show "confirmed user" or "registered to ______" and when they click that they get a list of my characters.

    How do I get my main's score to show on my alt?

  17. #37
    The whole mythic+ score shit is so inaccurate. and people actually use it as a guide to invite folks ?

    My clears on wowprogress are way off. We did arcway 15 and got a 17 key last week on monday. Yet wowprogress say that my highest arcway is a 7. So, there is that.

  18. #38
    So as somebody who doesn't PuG into M+ (always just use my key, run with whatever guildies I can grab, and PuG the rest if needed) this is the first I've heard of this system. Honestly it seems very strange, maybe over time it becomes a useful metric, but why would I care if a player has done everything on a +10 for example? How is that better than somebody who's cleared like 4 +15s?

    I guess if you're a DPS you're just looking for something to make you stand out from the other 20 DPS who also queued, and are looking for a better metric than ilvl?

  19. #39
    I have a very high m+ score but I still invite low scored people for easy mythic runs like weekly +15 if everything else fits. For pugged 20+ runs its usefull to filter out the unexpierenced but people who ask for any scores for a simple 15 key are just weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demonthor View Post
    How do I get my main's score to show on my alt?
    You check "is main" in your profile panel.

    https://www.wowprogress.com/post/192...main_character

    Looks like internet is indeed hard.
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