Charlie Gard's last days were turned into 'soap opera' says medic

[Elba]

Selfish for trying to help their son live.

You lack a soul and basic humanity.

Yes, selfish. Keeping someone alive who is suffering and has zero chance of getting better because you can't bear the truth is selfish.

[Deleted]

Didn't thier go fund me get 1million thanks to right wing evangelical crazies.

I'd totally trade my first born for 1million smackeroos.

[Elba]

Didn't thier go fund me get 1million thanks to right wing evangelical crazies.

I'd totally trade my first born for 1million smackeroos.

1.3 million. Yup. That money coulda gone to feeding poor children but nooooo, that's not Christian.

Pro-life is the greatest sham in the world.

[Deleted]

1.3 million. Yup. That money coulda gone to feeding poor children but nooooo, that's not Christian.

Pro-life is the greatest sham in the world.

They should really have just donated it to GOSH after all was said and done.

This online begging game is fucking mental, i need to get involved.

[Zeek Daniels]

They should have let him try the treatment if thats what the parents wanted and had the money for. If it saved the child what then? Governments having the power over peoples lives in the medical industry is exactly what conservatives are afraid of and what liberals ignore because they feel they are morally correct in letting the "suffering" baby die.

[Dangg]

good job wasting medical resources which could have helped other patient on this media stunt publicity case

[Deleted]

They should have let him try the treatment if thats what the parents wanted and had the money for. If it saved the child what then? Governments having the power over peoples lives in the medical industry is exactly what conservatives are afraid of and what liberals ignore because they feel they are morally correct in letting the "suffering" baby die.

You're aware it would never have saved the child

[WskyDK]

12 minutes. He lives for 12 minutes off life support. If the treatment extended his life 1,000 times, he would have lived for a bit over a week.

[Deleted]

Y'know actually I feel like I am just repeating myself to a wall

It wasn't a cure, he was always going to die, unnecessary prolonging of suffering life is unnecessary and wrong
It wasn't a cure, he was always going to die, unnecessary prolonging of suffering life is unnecessary and wrong
It wasn't a cure, he was always going to die, unnecessary prolonging of suffering life is unnecessary and wrong
It wasn't a cure, he was always going to die, unnecessary prolonging of suffering life is unnecessary and wrong
It wasn't a cure, he was always going to die, unnecessary prolonging of suffering life is unnecessary and wrong
It wasn't a cure, he was always going to die, unnecessary prolonging of suffering life is unnecessary and wrong
It wasn't a cure, he was always going to die, unnecessary prolonging of suffering life is unnecessary and wrong

[Ozyorkbourne]

That is just depressing. Though, I think it's unlikely any of those higher ups knew that he was supposed to stop receiving support already or that he should be dead already (as shitty as that sounds). They or their team probably wanted to do a publicity stunt, reached out to the hospital or whoever in UK, the hospital then instructed/was instructed to keep the child alive until all this was done.

They wanted a living subject for their experiments. The doctor who gave the family false hope had financial connections to the project, apparently. Also one of the journalists who was working for the family for 'free' as their publicist and media contact was actually still writing articles. A lot of people manipulated the desperate parents to further their own agendas - something that the hospital staff had to endure the consequences of. Utterly disgusting, honestly.

[storyline]

That's socialized medicine for you. "We pay the cost, so we can tell you when to kill your child or not." It doesn't matter if nothing would have cured it. The government should not be able to tell you whether you can treat your child or not. If he was going to be alive for 30 more seconds, it's the parent's right to choose that for their child. The UK is an actual disgrace.

[Socialhealer]

Y'know actually I feel like I am just repeating myself to a wall

It wasn't a cure, he was always going to die, unnecessary prolonging of suffering life is unnecessary and wrong
It wasn't a cure, he was always going to die, unnecessary prolonging of suffering life is unnecessary and wrong
It wasn't a cure, he was always going to die, unnecessary prolonging of suffering life is unnecessary and wrong
It wasn't a cure, he was always going to die, unnecessary prolonging of suffering life is unnecessary and wrong
It wasn't a cure, he was always going to die, unnecessary prolonging of suffering life is unnecessary and wrong
It wasn't a cure, he was always going to die, unnecessary prolonging of suffering life is unnecessary and wrong
It wasn't a cure, he was always going to die, unnecessary prolonging of suffering life is unnecessary and wrong

keep saying it we've got enough grade A morons around mmo-c who still won't understand a word you're saying, and think the child's life would of been saved.

[Ozyorkbourne]

Y'know actually I feel like I am just repeating myself to a wall

It wasn't a cure, he was always going to die, unnecessary prolonging of suffering life is unnecessary and wrong

I saw the child the treatment supposedly 'helped'. He was basically a living doll. They kept on talking how much he smiled, but he had the mental capacity of a young toddler, would never grow properly and was essentially a living doll unable to move anything below the neck. I'd rather be dead, personally.

When people who live normally have an accident and are rendered in such a condition, they fight for the right to die through assisted suicide or otherwise. It says a lot that when it's inflicted on a newborn we somehow change our standards and force them to live even though without machines, they last 12 minutes.

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That's socialized medicine for you. "We pay the cost, so we can tell you when to kill your child or not." It doesn't matter if nothing would have cured it. The government should not be able to tell you whether you can treat your child or not. If he was going to be alive for 30 more seconds, it's the parent's right to choose that for their child. The UK is an actual disgrace.

Holy fuck am I sick of you dumb idiots. It's not the government. It was the judiciary who made a judgement to the letter of the law, on the basis of actual medical experts rather than the rather extortionate American 'specialist' as is typical in cases of life support or requesting assisted suicide. The British Government didn't even make a statement on the case until Teresa May mentioned it after the child passed. Uninformed statements like this are why his life was a 'soap opera'. You hear 2 biased articles against the hospital and believe everything you read.

[Deleted]

That's socialized medicine for you. "We pay the cost, so we can tell you when to kill your child or not." It doesn't matter if nothing would have cured it. The government should not be able to tell you whether you can treat your child or not. If he was going to be alive for 30 more seconds, it's the parent's right to choose that for their child. The UK is an actual disgrace.

Education my dear

[Heladys]

He needs to stfu no one cares what he has to say if he is going to remain anon what a coward.

The people who need to STFU are the horse-fellationists who dragged this out, absolutely bereft of knowledge or anything useful to contribute, merely because "but think about the children!". Fuck those people.

[Templar 331]

read the fucking news previously? instead of sticking your clueless oar in? this has been going on for months if you're going to give a clueless uninformed opinion don't you think thats rather stupid?

but oh no we have to link everything or we're the liars.

Because I keep seeing people make the assumption he's suffering while at the same time say he's brain dead. Which one is it? Not a single fucking news site has clearly stated what his mental capacity is. If he's brain dead then he is not suffering because he is not conscious. If he's conscious then he's under pain medication. If that pain medication isn't sufficient then we'd be hearing about this boy LITERALLY suffering and so far I haven't heard jack shit about that. And if he is mentally capable of being conscious that makes the people calling for his death all the more monstrous.

So put the evidence up or shut up.

[Warning]

That's socialized medicine for you. "We pay the cost, so we can tell you when to kill your child or not." It doesn't matter if nothing would have cured it. The government should not be able to tell you whether you can treat your child or not. If he was going to be alive for 30 more seconds, it's the parent's right to choose that for their child. The UK is an actual disgrace.

It's not about the cost, we limit the power parents have over their child to the point they're not allowed to cause the child to suffer needless torment. Similarly, abusive parents have their children taken away from them. Parental power is not unlimited, nor should it be.

[Logwyn]

This next in will have espn asking what LaBron thinks! And Fox grabbing someone off the street for their input. Guess thats this day and age where everyone gets to put their two cents in.

[Templar 331]

Do you have evidence to the contrary?

You are the one making the claim. Burden is on you.

How do you ensure the survival of this particular child?

By doing anything possible, which is what these parents did. Even though it was fruitless from the start they did it anyway.

[storyline]

Would this have happened in the US? Absolutely not. That's all you need to know.