Canada denying asylum seekers into Canada.

[TheRainman]

Good for them. They have every right to control their national borders and choose who enters. Just like any sovereign country should.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

I'm just saying what people said would happen if Trump won. In fact, I think I remember the phrase internment popping up to scare minorities.

You have to understand. People need to be reminded that this isn't a place for minorities anymore. That's why I have to go back to Guam.

what people were saying would happen when trump would win is irrelevant to me i don't care about trump in the slightest and america had theses problems long before he was any where near the white house.

[Jeezy911]

what people were saying would happen when trump would win is irrelevant to me i don't care about trump in the slightest and america had theses problems long before he was any where near the white house.

In Democrats defense, it was really Regan that started the whole immigration mess.

[kasuke06]

so do you have any legit criticism of Canada or just memes?

because america has a horrible prison system, under trained cops who are to quick to use lethal force, a lack of health care, an unreasonable minimum wage. i could go on but i wont, but i could.

Could you use proper grammar and punctuation? Thought Canada was supposed to have better education...

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Could you use proper grammar and punctuation? Thought Canada was supposed to have better education...

ya that's not refuting any thing i said id guess you cant so you have to go after grammar and punctuation instead.

[kasuke06]

ya that's not refuting any thing i said id guess you cant so you have to go after grammar and punctuation instead.

Because you have nothing to go after. Your "arguments" have less than no basis in reality.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Because you have nothing to go after. Your "arguments" have less than no basis in reality.

less then no basis? compare the incarnation rate in america to any other country. compare the re offender rate. compare how the police deal with the mentally ill, there level of training or education required. compare ho people deal with the cost of health care or the people who work more then one job and can just barley get by.

your either comply blind to reality or have been force fed so much patriotism you just don't care.

[Zython]

Good for them. They have every right to control their national borders and choose who enters. Just like any sovereign country should.

Great. So when do we start deporting white nationalists?

[SherriMayim]

God damn America's racist immigration policies! -Canada

God damn Asylum seekers coming from America to take our jobs and squat on our land demanding benefits! -Also Canada

[kasuke06]

less then no basis? compare the incarnation rate in america to any other country. compare the re offender rate. compare how the police deal with the mentally ill, there level of training or education required. compare ho people deal with the cost of health care or the people who work more then one job and can just barley get by.

your either comply blind to reality or have been force fed so much patriotism you just don't care.

Compare how your cops dump people out in the wilderness to die slowly for the crime of being born a different race. Compare the long waits for simple procedures. Compare how you have to brag about taking in less refugees the US does even though you're doubling up. Face facts, you're a hat.

[cparle87]

It's not baiting when that has been the classic excuse for not saying no. And a lot of our out of country friends like to talk about how horrible it must be a minority in America.

So. Why are you against helping this group of people fleeing for their lives? Statue of Liberty quote.

But they AREN'T fleeing for their lives. This thread is about people who have already fled to the US, are here now, are safe, and are now trying to move into Canada which they believe will give them more benefits.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Compare how your cops dump people out in the wilderness to die slowly for the crime of being born a different race. Compare the long waits for simple procedures. Compare how you have to brag about taking in less refugees the US does even though you're doubling up. Face facts, you're a hat.

ya none of those things are comparable to the problems america has and the starlight tours were back in 2000 so your about 17 years to late to use that.

[Zeta333]

I'm sorry but your last sentence sounds as hateful as Donald trump. Both countries are rich enough and have enough space to take in a lot more than they do now. We were lucky enough to be born into such great countries, we didn't earn it. We should be helping these people. Not throwing them away

just becuase someone has wealth doesnt mean they have to use it for what you want them to. Immigration is not a right, you can stomp your feet and claim donald trump all you want but that fact will not change. There are legal ways to do it and if you cant do that then tough shit.

[TheRainman]

Great. So when do we start deporting white nationalists?

How is allowing who comes into your country the same as removing people based on their political or personal views?

[XangXu]

Good. No more plz. Especially those coming from America we need to be very careful of. Their violent and extremist ways have no place in Canada.

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But they AREN'T fleeing for their lives. This thread is about people who have already fled to the US, are here now, are safe, and are now trying to move into Canada which they believe will give them more benefits.

Neither are so many economic migrants in the middle east, but if you say you don't want them you get called a racist.

[Zython]

Good. No more plz. Especially those coming from America we need to be very careful of. Their violent and extremist ways have no place in Canada.

Uh...the most violent and extremist of Americans aren't coming to Canada. Why would they? They run the show here.

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Neither are so many economic migrants in the middle east, but if you say you don't want them you get called a racist.

I just politely ask for evidence, but I guess saying that is easier than actually addressing arguments in good faith.

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just becuase someone has wealth doesnt mean they have to use it for what you want them to. Immigration is not a right, you can stomp your feet and claim donald trump all you want but that fact will not change. There are legal ways to do it and if you cant do that then tough shit.

This is the mantra of a spoiled brat.

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How is allowing who comes into your country the same as removing people based on their political or personal views?

You said a country could decide who lives there for any reason whatsoever. I say that dangerous white nationalists should be exiled to make us all safer. Why do YOU get to decide who lives where, but I don't?

[Rhaide]

No, unlawful presence isn't a crime, at least in the USA.

Which means you can deport illegal immigrants, but not imprison them for the "crime" of being undocumented. I've never argued that controlling border entries was "bad" or that those evading border controls should be allowed through.

But you'd know that, if you actually gave a shit what I actually argued rather than just wanting me to be the face of your manufactured boogeyman.

Can't blame him can you? You got a pretty face.

On topic, I agree with most of your points Endus. They make sense here, but something just FEELS off about the Immigration Minister of a country that takes every opportunity to harp on how great they are at helping immigrants in almost every way telling them to shove off.

I have heard endless repartee about how the US should open their borders and how we're all selfish for not taking anyone for any reason at any time. Not from you that I can remember, but I have heard it a million times nonetheless. Most of the time, those people use Canada as an example of a country that is SO friendly to all immigrants, even illegal ones. I think the folks here are enjoying a bit of catharsis, not over the issue of the attempting relocation of many settled refugees being turned away... but rather at the somewhat ironic response Canada has when they are faced with a miniscule percentage of the illegal problem that the US has.

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Where are Tennisace now, who brag how good Canada are on the refugee policy front?

[Pengekaer]

Had they come straight from their original country where they faced persecution, to Canada, they'd get asylum.

Yep, Canada is blessed by its geography ;-) Nobody, or at least close to nobody, comes directly to Canada. They'd have to get a seaworthy supertanker ship for that.
That is why a guy like Trudeau won't mean complete disaster to you people, he can only mess up so much since there's no corridor from the third world to Canada. A Trudeau in Europe, the closest we had being mr. Reinfeldt, is a much more scary prospect here. ;-)


On a more genereral note to this thread:
It's not that I don't feel sorry for the people of the third world, being born in shitholes with Sharia law and social control, but they have to figure out something for themselves really. I am not a supporter of Universal Human Rights, because it has become clear to me that most countries which benefit from these, have never done anything in good intention to spread or promote said human rights (looking at you, Syria!!). Basically, human rights is like socialism to me, it sounds nice and appealing enough if one feels gullible for a moment, but once it starts being realized, other people's money will start to come up short ;-). Citizen rights and privileges is another matter (which I fully support), as that can be adjusted to the needs and desires of a specific culture and people. For instance, in Dubai you have the citizen right of taking dhimmies as slaves, to live by Sharia code or get murdered and to wrap up your wife in a bag. In Singapore, you have the right to earn alot of money and consume, but otherwise shut up and certainly the right to not ever smoke a weedpipe.
And in Canada, the US or some European countries, one is blessed with more rights than anywhere else.

I should like to remind the IMO very left-leaning MMO-C forum, that it wasn't always so in the Western world.
Even in Europe at the end of the 18 hundreds, people lived on just a few dollars a day and infant mortality frequencies were to be meassured in hundreds per 1000 infants (that's not counting the large fraction of children who died before adulthood). In all honestly, we probably were not much better off than todays Syria pre 2010, Egypt for Jordan. And if one required social aid, many citizen rights such as the right to vote or mange your own life, were abolished and they had to live in crappy government institutions called 'Fattiggaarden' in Denmark, a prison for all intents and purposes. And the working class got to work 70 hours a week in shitty factories with air polluted by small uncombusted coal-particles. Life in Europe was shitty and humiliating to most people back then.
But in Europe we did at least have a christian, progressive culture under the rule of law along with a developed academic system which allowed us to, eventually, after two world wars (and damn nearly a third one) to create a rather peaceful and prosperous society that is, understandably, the envy of the world.

Point is, the average person in the third world today is not that much poorer than we Europeans were in the 1800s. Their cultures, however, are far more backwards. But that is not my problem as a European, I want them to do something nice for their children instead of just making more of them..
It's not too high a demand, really.