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    Where do all these ridiculous groups come from and who sponsors them?

    I'm talking about groups like Antifa, Bash the Fash, Alt-right, Black Lives Matter, Blue Lives Matter, MRA, Feminists, Genderists, Fat Activists and the rest of those groups groups that popped up in the last decade. Now we all know that getting and holding down a job is pretty tough in our current capitalistic society but these people seem to have all the free time in the world. They protest 24/7 instead of working, they are so well-versed in their ideologies that it must have taken years of study to get to that point (how can Genderists know and name 100's of different genders and sexes? Just how?) Are they all just feckless benefits scrounges? Or is there something else at work?

    Even if they do somehow have that much free time (inherited expensive property etc.), why do they throw away all of it hating and hating instead of doing something productive? You can learn a new instrument, play a new video game, watch a new TV show, make an effort to live healthier, improve your relations with your friends and relatives and so on. What is driving them to spend all of their time just hating on other people?

    Who is funding this sort of lifestyle? And why are they willingly engaging in activities that don't benefit themselves nor the society?

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros

    https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/201...-george-soros/


    Theres a few more people like him and they tend to work with the US government in some aspects but you get the idea

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naralix View Post
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros

    https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/201...-george-soros/


    Theres a few more people like him and they tend to work with the US government in some aspects but you get the idea
    (((George Soros)))?

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    Antifa "did neither come from" or was "sponsored". It actually dates back to the 1920s i.e. the Weimar Republic and thus has a fairly long history. It was a communist grassroots reaction to the growth of fascist movements across Europe. That they are popular in the US nowadays is more or less a sign about how dire things have become in general. The country where you'd least expect this to happen is the US but then nationalist movements based on dermo-chromatic continentalist activism seem to be on the rise in general, not just the US.

    Here's a few historical images which refer to the origins of Antifa in their entirety:









    Now whether the movement today draws from the same ideals remains to be questioned seeing it has split into several militant and political arms changing the approaches and goals but suffice to say that the militant and political versions do not share the same approach and by that extent the same ideological base, one favours 'change by destruction of symbols related to the establishment' and the other one 'change by changing of socio-political structure'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenblade View Post
    Antifa "did neither come from" or was "sponsored". It actually dates back to the 1920s i.e. the Weimar Republic and thus has a fairly long history. It was a communist grassroots reaction to the growth of fascist movements across Europe. That they are popular in the US nowadays is more or less a sign about how dire things have become in general. The country where you'd least expect this to happen is the US but then nationalist movements based on dermo-chromatic continentalist activism seem to be on the rise in general, not just the US.

    Here's a few historical images which refer to the origins of Antifa in their entirety:





    [IMGhttps://austeritygrandtour.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/antifa.jpg[/IMG]



    Now whether the movement today draws from the same ideals remains to be questioned seeing it has split into several militant and political arms changing the approaches and goals but suffice to say that the militant and political versions do not share the same approach and by that extent the same ideological base, one favours 'change by destruction of symbols related to the establishment' and the other one 'change by changing of socio-political structure'.
    In short....

    This election cycle has brought out the worst in us, especially from the far left and far right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenblade View Post
    Antifa "did neither come from" or was "sponsored". It actually dates back to the 1920s i.e. the Weimar Republic and thus has a fairly long history. It was a communist grassroots reaction to the growth of fascist movements across Europe. That they are popular in the US nowadays is more or less a sign about how dire things have become in general. The country where you'd least expect this to happen is the US but then nationalist movements based on dermo-chromatic continentalist activism seem to be on the rise in general, not just the US.

    Here's a few historical images which refer to the origins of Antifa in their entirety:





    [IMGhttps://austeritygrandtour.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/antifa.jpg[/IMG]



    Now whether the movement today draws from the same ideals remains to be questioned seeing it has split into several militant and political arms changing the approaches and goals but suffice to say that the militant and political versions do not share the same approach and by that extent the same ideological base, one favours 'change by destruction of symbols related to the establishment' and the other one 'change by changing of socio-political structure'.
    History repeats itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naralix View Post
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros

    https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/201...-george-soros/


    Theres a few more people like him and they tend to work with the US government in some aspects but you get the idea
    Oh my, didn't take long this time.

    OP: don't just list a bunch of names just to triggering people.

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    Everywhere.

    /melds back into the shadows

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    You're asking where a mix of social movements and fringe extremist groups come from?

    Well the short answer is they come from our evolving culture.

    I recommend a cursory glance at the history of the 20th Century.

    Quote Originally Posted by Naralix View Post
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros

    https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/201...-george-soros/


    Theres a few more people like him and they tend to work with the US government in some aspects but you get the idea
    Who's that behind you?

    OH NO IT'S GEORGE SOROS QUICK RUN BACK TO r/TheDonald!!!
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    Black Lives Matter came about because black people believe, and there's some evidence of this, that cops treat black people unfairly and are much more likely to shoot a black man than a white man. I don't agree with all their tactics but there has been police brutality against blacks for over a hundred years in the US. Social media made BLM a nation wide thing without the internet there would be no BLM.

    You know I'm going to say what most of the groups OP listed have in common is social media, the internet. Take MRA, before the internet nobody heard about MRA stuff, now with social media people who were once isolated come together and are able to organize.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naralix View Post
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros

    https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/201...-george-soros/


    Theres a few more people like him and they tend to work with the US government in some aspects but you get the idea
    Is he the current boogeyman we're supposed to blame all of our troubles on ?

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    They appear because some people take them seriously. Because "equality" has turned into giving privileges rather than actual equality and its easy to silence anyone who disagrees by labeling them as nazi/racist/sexist/trumpster/etc... and they employ mob tactics to do it. Nobody can stand up to mob.

    As for financing, Soros is helping some of them. There are others like him too. Not because they agree with those movements, but because its good for tax breaks. Many of those groups are listed as non profit, making them easy target for tax write offs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mormolyce View Post
    OH NO IT'S GEORGE SOROS QUICK RUN BACK TO r/TheDonald!!!
    Dude, its even on his wikipedia page. Read it before posting memes.

    He's financing anything that claims to be left and anti-Russian. I saw it first hand when Estonia left USSR in 90s, Soros was financing anyone who would badmouth Russia, including nationalist organizations. In US he finances anyone that supports democrats, including crazies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryntrollian View Post
    Is he the current boogeyman we're supposed to blame all of our troubles on ?
    You missed "Theres a few more people like him" part, just like many other posters did. He's just the most well known of them.

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    Go ask your parents if you really care and we'll help ya make sense of the answers you get.

    They spend their time "hating" as you put it because they care. Just like you care enough to hate on them. Funny eh?
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    Well for BLM you really need to credit Donald Trump who single-handely manages to keep Twitter alive

    Antifa does not exist so they don't need funding

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    It's sad that these people that "protest" have often no idea that they are just pawns that are used by other people with their own agenda.

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    Without these groups, we wouldn't have anyone to point and laugh at. /shrug

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    Quote Originally Posted by ati87 View Post
    Antifa does not exist so they don't need funding
    They do exist. However they are not a unified, global, cohesive and therefore fundable movement like some people depict them as. It could be that some people are loosely associated with some cells and receive monetary assistance from some source but on the whole it is nothing more than a term coined to define extra-parliamentary opposition positioned on the far left consisting of a hodgepodge of radical left ideas. Their overall lack of organization makes them difficult to control, to observe and to even influence. The militant versions are even smaller in size and usually really associated by region only - I know some of them here have long disavowed violence in order to shift more towards a political activist level. The rightwing pendant to this are Kameradschaften which are similarly organized but are often much better connected and usually long amalgamated political and militant activism and they don't really make a habit of rejecting violence.

    What the US is experiencing is homeopathic compared to what is tradition in Germany, especially the East of it.
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    Coquetting with ignorance is not a smart thing to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenblade View Post
    They do exist. However they are not a unified, global, cohesive and therefore fundable movement like some people depict them as. It could be that some people are loosely associated with some cells and receive monetary assistance from some source but on the whole it is nothing more than a term coined to define extra-parliamentary opposition positioned on the far left consisting of a hodgepodge of radical left ideas. Their overall lack of organization makes them difficult to control, to observe and to even influence. The militant versions are even smaller in size and usually really associated by region only - I know some of them here have long disavowed violence in order to shift more towards a political activist level. The rightwing pendant to this are Kameradschaften which are similarly organized but are often much better connected and usually long amalgamated political and militant activism and they don't really make a habit of rejecting violence.

    What the US is experiencing is homeopathic compared to what is tradition in Germany, especially the East of it.
    You could literately have 2 people in their basement in every city and that would be more in line in what the sizes of ''antifa'' is then then what the right-wing claims. Hell it could be right-wingers who are just trolling and we wouldn't really know.


    If antifa was even a fraction of the size the right-wing claimed that scumbag Jesse Watters wouldn't have been trolled hard in public a by a basement dweller youtube poster.

    What it comes down to...the right-wing needs enemies and they will keep on making up new enemies so they can say ''we know we are bad but the other side is actually worse''

    overblown enemies nothing more

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    Its what happens when you give a bored middle class teenager a cause to fight for.

    Plus with the rise of social media its made it easier to group up with other idealistic people. Back in the day you had to hand out leaflets outside a college now you can just type and rage online instead.

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