Sorry your mythic+ score is too low?

[Ribesal]

The whole mythic+ score shit is so inaccurate. and people actually use it as a guide to invite folks ?

My clears on wowprogress are way off. We did arcway 15 and got a 17 key last week on monday. Yet wowprogress say that my highest arcway is a 7. So, there is that.

Not sure if it was mentioned here already, but the whole m+ score on wowprogress is so extremely flawed...
There is a leaderbord done from blizzard (don't know where, but it is somewhere). On this list there are only the best 100 players per dungeon of your server listed, if you're below that -> no score...
So to get a good score you have to do the runs early in the week. Or be on a low pop realm.
As long as it works this way the whole m+ score shit should be removed. Or ignored, which isn't. And the number of players looking at this flawed number rises and rises...

If you REALLY wanna use this number, only look at the number of the dungeon you want to do, or get the average score of dungeons this character has a rank for. Using the added number for all dungeons is a bit dumb imo.

[xindralol]

wow didn't realize anyone actually gives a fk about mythic + scores haha

[ls-]

I agree with you, but then I agreed that the concept of gearscore in wrath was cancer as well.

TBQH, GS was a better system than ilvl, it even took gems and enchants into account.

[Ortus]

I think only one of the groups I've been screened for based on wow prog score has fallen out of timer (because of a Comcast based disconnect), if you don't like it pick any of the groups that aren't screening and enjoy your roulette roll.

[Deleted]

m+ score might not be incredibly ~"accurate"~ but there's nothing that beats it in terms of ~*'accuracy'*~ and convenience so you'll have to deal with it.

[Selerian]

High m+ score shows that the player has done every instance in high level, hence he (most probably) knows optimum pathing, which trash needs to clear, when and where to use his cds, what to skip, which boss abilities need special attention etc. Ofc I will prefer a high +m score player from someone who hasn't set foot in that dungeon if I wanna push a key. It's not just another measure for elitists to stroke their e-peen, it actually represents something significant that it's natural to be taken into consideration when forming a group.

I always check both +m score AND Logs of every player when I'm forming a group to cover both dungeon experience and skill (=%performance).

If you just wanna do your +15 weekly dungeon, high ilvl will most probably get you in a group without a problem, if you wanna join a high key pushing group, it's only natural that you'll need to invest some time into your m+ score in order to get invited.

[Sandraudiga]

TBQH, GS was a better system than ilvl, it even took gems and enchants into account.

Probably slightly better than strait item level yeah I would agree. Especially these days with WF/TF and very high ilvl crafted gear compared to then.

[Spicymemer]

This scoring system is just a way for incompetent players to find the most reliable picks for their group.
The problem is that most of the wow playerbase is incompetent and so those who pug most of their game are unwelcome.
This is the same thing as link the achieve before doing the content issue, the same thing as ilvl requirements, the same thing as gearscore.

[Bullarkie]

I run into this often when trying to do my +15 for the week. I try to do it with a guild group as often as I can but sometimes I'm forced to pug. I'm at ~930 ilvl equipped but still get denied pretty often. When I do get in I'm 10 or so ilvls about everyone else and seem to be the only one that can interrupt, stun and do mechanics correctly.

It's frustrating to say the least.

[Will]

Read again. AVERAGE, which shows up when you queue :3



you too, same as the other guy!

My MS/OS gear btw, equipped/average:

Only silly people care about the second number. It contains your ilvl if you were to equip all your highest ivl items in each slot, and it searches bags/bank etc to obtain this value. Every player worth half his or her salt fully understands that the route to optimal performance isn't necessarily all about ilvl. Generally, it is, but this second value also counts legendaries - and since you can only equip two legendaries at once, it's even more useless a metric to go by than it has EVER been before legion came out. The term 'average' isn't even technically correct, because it's not an average. Is that what blizz actually call it? It's utter bogus that the group finder shows this instead of the equipped value.

[Ealyssa]

Having Keymaster, 1400+ score and being overgeared isn't joining the system then?

Its not nope. I have 1400 on shity alts...

And it's not a judgment of what your worth. Just a fact about involvment into MM+ runs in PUGS. That's what the score is, that's what people are looking for : players who you know shit about but have at least some experience.

And keymaster means shit with the constant rework of MM+ difficulties sadly. Thes should have made "season" achievement for keymaster.

[Marrilaife]

Only silly people care about the second number. It contains your ilvl if you were to equip all your highest ivl items in each slot, and it searches bags/bank etc to obtain this value. Every player worth half his or her salt fully understands that the route to optimal performance isn't necessarily all about ilvl. Generally, it is, but this second value also counts legendaries - and since you can only equip two legendaries at once, it's even more useless a metric to go by than it has EVER been before legion came out.

They changed it at some point (when people started getting shitton of legendaries and requests towards Blizzard cropped up when "in bags" started being >30 ilvl above equipped) from counting all legendaries to counting only the 2 you have currently equipped and THEN calculating the highest ilvl in remaining slots. It doesn't count "the best possible combo ever" it counts "best possible combo with your current legendaries", when I equip the shitty voodoo mask on my hunter instead of normal legendaries I use, my "total" ilvl goes up by 2.

[Nyoken]

Yes morons pretending like doing a 15 is difficult then they judge you by m+ score which is complete bullshit cause it doesn't say shit about how good you are as a player. This is group effort. Some people have a group they can push this crap with 24/7.... but not everyone, just cause ur m+ is low doesn't mean anything....everyones done these stupid dungeons a million times by now. Same with achievements....everyone that has them screws up on bosses and in raids a lot and can't play for shit.........

So don't worry about this crap....doesn't mean anything

[BiggestNoob]

Yes morons pretending like doing a 15 is difficult then they judge you by m+ score which is complete bullshit cause it doesn't say shit about how good you are as a player. This is group effort. Some people have a group they can push this crap with 24/7.... but not everyone, just cause ur m+ is low doesn't mean anything....everyones done these stupid dungeons a million times by now. Same with achievements....everyone that has them screws up on bosses and in raids a lot and can't play for shit.........

So don't worry about this crap....doesn't mean anything

I'm confident that 100% of groups made with 2000+ score players will be able to do a 15 in time. Good luck obtaining that level of confidence from looking at ilvl or with 500 score players.

[Deleted]

Only silly people care about the second number. It contains your ilvl if you were to equip all your highest ivl items in each slot, and it searches bags/bank etc to obtain this value. Every player worth half his or her salt fully understands that the route to optimal performance isn't necessarily all about ilvl. Generally, it is, but this second value also counts legendaries - and since you can only equip two legendaries at once, it's even more useless a metric to go by than it has EVER been before legion came out. The term 'average' isn't even technically correct, because it's not an average. Is that what blizz actually call it? It's utter bogus that the group finder shows this instead of the equipped value.

People afaik only care about the second number because it shows the equipped ilvl can't be that low. In no way am I claiming that the higher number reflects fully on anything proper.
It is, however, truly the number that's listed when people queue in group finder - why exactly that is, I don't know. But as I said before if it showed equipped people would just momentarily equip every best item they have to queue with as high ilvl as possible, which is another problem. I'd queue with my OS gear of 939, which is highest I can get with looking fast through some items in my bank - but my lower ilvl in my MS at 932 is still superior. Everything just kinda... sucks either way

[Deleted]

People don't realize that the m+ score is for consistency sake - why would I invite someone to a 15 if they've only done 1 +15 and it was barely on time. Again make your own group and push your own key to 15 really if you don't like the system then you'll get to understand why m+ score is a thing and people want it.

[Deleted]

Only silly people care about the second number

This is the only number that shows up in the ingame queue. Unless you check wowprogress you will never know what his actual equiped ilvl looks like.

[thebdc]

The way M+ scores are computed might not be ideal, but its the best there is. Funny thing is, by supplying nearly no M+ metrics Blizzard is actually making matters worse in their futile attempt to make players not rate each other.

[Deleted]

Had a lot of success picking ppl up from finder based on their wowprogress. It's a great tool for us who know what m+ is about and keeping those 920+ bads out.

920 bads are the true "gift" of Legion. And I fully expect to see 930 bads within 2-3 lockouts.

[Umbrex]

its the best way to make sure you don't end up with a 930 ilvl player who cant break 1 million dps