Where do all these ridiculous groups come from and who sponsors them?

[Hiricine]

As someone who has great disdain for many of these groups, they're often just loosely affiliated, and their name is often a brand given to them by outside of the group, or by a small group while the larger proportion would prefer not to affiliate with the label.

[Ravenblade]

You could literately have 2 people in their basement in every city and that would be more in line in what the sizes of ''antifa'' is then then what the right-wing claims. Hell it could be right-wingers who are just trolling and we wouldn't really know.


If antifa was even a fraction of the size the right-wing claimed that scumbag Jesse Watters wouldn't have been trolled hard in public a by a basement dweller youtube poster.

What it comes down to...the right-wing needs enemies and they will keep on making up new enemies so they can say ''we know we are bad but the other side is actually worse''

overblown enemies nothing more

Every era has its own 'red bogeyman'. In the 1920s communists were the danger all parties were afraid of, the Bolsheviks were the great enemy of the nazis and their justification for many atrocities they committed, after WW2 the entire Cold War revolved around the Red Scare, after 1990s it got a bit of a break until early 2010s with the financial crisis creating new protest movements and these days Antifa is the enemy even though by organization and scale they are fairly tiny and not a cohesive enemy since their ideals embodies many things that prevents them from cultivating a culture and tradition. They are not a brotherhood of evil, heck, at the G20 protests a lot people there didn't even subscribe to even classic militant Antifa ideals since a lot ideals have long been transposed and adopted by far rightwing groups as well (e.g. globalism being now proclaimed the big enemy by both sides). A lot people came from the entire spectrum but clothes made the men, I guess.

[PosPosPos]

Most of them exist and are funded by the alt-right; others, like Antifa, are simply boogeyman/false flag operations by said alt-right to discredit their opponents(which is pretty much everyone but them).

It's a sad state of affairs, really.

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Every era has its own 'red bogeyman'. In the 1920s communists were the danger all parties were afraid of, the Bolsheviks were the great enemy of the nazis and their justification for many atrocities they committed, after WW2 the entire Cold War revolved around the Red Scare, after 1990s it got a bit of a break until early 2010s with the financial crisis creating new protest movements and these days Antifa is the enemy even though by organization and scale they are fairly tiny and not a cohesive enemy since their ideals embodies many things that prevents them from cultivating a culture and tradition. They are not a brotherhood of evil, heck, at the G20 protests a lot people there didn't even subscribe to even classic militant Antifa ideals since a lot ideals have long been transposed and adopted by far rightwing groups as well (e.g. globalism being now proclaimed the big enemy by both sides). A lot people came from the entire spectrum but clothes made the men, I guess.

Frankly, at least the alt-right has some creativity in this regard: instead of copying history and picking an existing group to grab their pitchforks over, they created an imaginary organization.

[kyoloco]

they really need hobbies

[Strawberry]

Those Groups were always there, internet gave them fame.

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I'm talking about groups like Antifa, Bash the Fash, Alt-right, Black Lives Matter, Blue Lives Matter, MRA, Feminists, Genderists, Fat Activists and the rest of those groups groups that popped up in the last decade. Now we all know that getting and holding down a job is pretty tough in our current capitalistic society but these people seem to have all the free time in the world. They protest 24/7 instead of working, they are so well-versed in their ideologies that it must have taken years of study to get to that point (how can Genderists know and name 100's of different genders and sexes? Just how?) Are they all just feckless benefits scrounges? Or is there something else at work?

Even if they do somehow have that much free time (inherited expensive property etc.), why do they throw away all of it hating and hating instead of doing something productive? You can learn a new instrument, play a new video game, watch a new TV show, make an effort to live healthier, improve your relations with your friends and relatives and so on. What is driving them to spend all of their time just hating on other people?

Who is funding this sort of lifestyle? And why are they willingly engaging in activities that don't benefit themselves nor the society?

If you think anti-fascists, feminists or black-activist groups 'popped up' in the last decade, you have next to zero knowledge about this kind of groups.

[ButterBeast]

I swear you could probably find people on mmo-champion argue that we dont actually need the 1st amendment.

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As someone who has great disdain for many of these groups, they're often just loosely affiliated, and their name is often a brand given to them by outside of the group, or by a small group while the larger proportion would prefer not to affiliate with the label.

I dont know if I could go on knowing that weeaboos dont support my cause

[Deleted]

I'm talking about groups like Antifa, Bash the Fash, Alt-right, Black Lives Matter, Blue Lives Matter, MRA, Feminists, Genderists, Fat Activists and the rest of those groups groups that popped up in the last decade. Now we all know that getting and holding down a job is pretty tough in our current capitalistic society but these people seem to have all the free time in the world. They protest 24/7 instead of working, they are so well-versed in their ideologies that it must have taken years of study to get to that point (how can Genderists know and name 100's of different genders and sexes? Just how?) Are they all just feckless benefits scrounges? Or is there something else at work?

Even if they do somehow have that much free time (inherited expensive property etc.), why do they throw away all of it hating and hating instead of doing something productive? You can learn a new instrument, play a new video game, watch a new TV show, make an effort to live healthier, improve your relations with your friends and relatives and so on. What is driving them to spend all of their time just hating on other people?

Who is funding this sort of lifestyle? And why are they willingly engaging in activities that don't benefit themselves nor the society?

Bro, do you not like BLM and feminism? It's not cool to be sexist man, drop it, seriously.

[Mormolyce]

Dude, its even on his wikipedia page. Read it before posting memes.

He's financing anything that claims to be left and anti-Russian. I saw it first hand when Estonia left USSR in 90s, Soros was financing anyone who would badmouth Russia, including nationalist organizations. In US he finances anyone that supports democrats, including crazies.

Are you telling me there are rich people lobbying governments?

Next you'll be telling me there are some on the right wing too!

[Gaexion Ramza Beoulve]

The ideologies are sound, from their owner's perspective at least.

Unfortunately when it comes to action they choose to use it as an excuse to invoke tribalism.

Tribalism is what allows you to wear masks, destroy property, go to war, and attack your countrymen.

If you want to convince me, win elections, win debates, show proof.

Until then go to Venezuela and tell them how they're just not doing the right kind of socialism.

[Deleted]

Antifa

Some anti fascist.

Bash the Fash

Some anti fascist who loves violence.

Alt-right

Wladimir Putin

Black Lives Matter

People with black skin color who believe their lives matter.

Blue Lives Matter

People with blue skin color who believe their lives matter.

MRA

Is that something like the "Militant Rifle Association"? I am not that well informed about american abbreviations.

Feminists

Women who want to have the same rights as men.

Genderists

People who think that gender does not matter.. or matter even more dependend on the idea what you actually believe in that context.

Fat Activists

Fatties that want to have the same rights as none-fatties.

and the rest of those groups groups that popped up in the last decade.

Thats a lot to cover here.

Seems all those are political or human right activist groups which are financed by all kind of people who share their values.

[Toogoodman]

Most of them exist and are funded by the alt-right; others, like Antifa, are simply boogeyman/false flag operations by said alt-right to discredit their opponents(which is pretty much everyone but them).

It's a sad state of affairs, really.

You think every far-left group is just a false flag operation by the right-wing? That's some deep conspiracy theory shit right there, believe it or not, the right and the left are not these boogeymen that are out to get you, 99% of the people are just individuals with different ideas trying to make a difference in their lives.

Fringe groups are a totally different beast, but they're all so small they'll never really amount to anything, unless they start doing some terrorist attacks, but they exist on both sides of the spectrum.

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Who is funding this sort of lifestyle? And why are they willingly engaging in activities that don't benefit themselves nor the society?

You do, through your taxes,charities and corporations.